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Snapes N Snapes posted:Thanks Guardians! Looks like I'm going double bow (primary+heavy) from now on. Any legendary recommendations or is it always precision frame+fastest drawtime+dmg perk? PvE bow thoughts. I'm only going to touch on legendary bows since you want your exotic to be leviathan's. Imo the most important question to ask is "how many hits does it take to kill a standard red bar". If lightweight and precision take the same use the lightweight, otherwise use a precision. Always use minor spec The next question is what perks to use, and the answer is always explosive head. It is always-on +17% damage, AoE, and double champ hitting. There's basically no reason to ever use a different perk. For the other perk the answer is usually Archer's tempo because it adds an on-hit draw time reduction that goes beneath the floor. AT/EH will be the best roll in 99% of PvE cases Finally, I highly recommend kinetic bows because of their intrinsic +10% damage that stacks with surge/overcharge. They're just better than any element unless you need the coverage which you usually don't. So I would rate the best PvE bows in each frame as Lightweight: Fel Tardiddle the Craftable Wellspring bow with AT/EH, it doesn't get any better. Precision: Accrued Redemption from Garden of Salvation, AT/EH as well. Since that's kind of a pain to get the next best option is Biting Winds from Europa, it only has EH but you can farm it solo.
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Oxyclean posted:I want to see a special ammo bow. ok but the cabal are gonna have a build a bow big enough to shoot me out of
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Snapes N Snapes posted:Thanks Guardians! Looks like I'm going double bow (primary+heavy) from now on. Any legendary recommendations or is it always precision frame+fastest drawtime+dmg perk? I'm not sure if it's craftable at the moment, but the void bow Under Your Skin is absolutely my favorite legendary weapon in the game. After using the archer's tempo drawtime perk for a while, I switched to an enhanced unrelenting/explosive head combo last season, and have really noticed the health benefits.
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Apr 4, 2023 15:37
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It's craftable if you have the pattern, but you can't make any pattern progress at this time.
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Oxyclean posted:I want to see a special ammo bow. Special ammo rapid fire gun that’s something between Auto Rifles and LMGs Heavy Trace Rifle But also: Heavy Pulse Heavy Sidearm Wave Frame Hand Cannon
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Roctavian posted:I also want to see: Definitely want to see a heavy trace as well. Wave Frame Hand Cannon? Like it's just tiny little wave frame bursts if you shoot the ground? That made me think of something similar - like a semi-auto weapon (HC-like) that goes on the remote detonation mechanic - basically fire and release to explode your bullet near targets. Like some kind of manual flak gun.
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Apr 4, 2023 15:50
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Legendary Witherhoard style AoE GLs would be amazing with the new elemental perks.
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Oxyclean posted:Like some kind of manual flak gun. I am ignoring the rest of this post to call Bungie cowards for not copying the UT flak cannon into the game.
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Apr 4, 2023 16:07
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I would LOVE to see what they would do with a heavy trace rifle.
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Kith posted:It's craftable if you have the pattern, but you can't make any pattern progress at this time. Well, rats. Thanks for the clarification. Just cross your fingers and hope for a random drop, I guess. On a (sort of) similar note, what's everybody doing with their non-seasonal vendor engrams? I lucked out with an auto-loading/chill clip Riptide early in the season (this is a gun that absolutely everyone needs, btw), and now the engrams are just piling up and making the map screen flash. Are there any other god rolls that I should be looking for? filmcynic fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Apr 4, 2023 |
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sunday at work posted:Legendary Witherhoard style AoE GLs would be amazing with the new elemental perks. Either way I'm very much hoping we get a stasis/strand wave frame soon. (Rumor has it next season will have a stasis one in the dungeon, but that means no crafting.)
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Like most every PvE shooter. I'm finding that enemies are much more dangerous the closer you get to them, and I'm struggling with swords as a third weapon. It's like having ready access to a titan super as long as I'm facing anything less than a Strike boss, but when that boss shows up I'd really rather have something like a rocket launcher or sniper rifle where I can keep my distance. Is there something about using swords I'm overlooking? Right now I basically take it out and spam attacks. If I don't kill my enemy (strike boss), I eat bad hits. Also, does anyone else despise the titan jump? Everything about this thing is bad and I want to do a hunter double jump so bad. I overshoot landings, I get pushed off ledges and can't change direction, I bump into low ceilings, it sucks! Can I turn off the hud effect that some powers give while jumping or sprinting? It's distracting and making me limit my builds just to avoid seeing it.
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Apr 4, 2023 16:25
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A heavy trace should just be an over the shoulder giant laser cannon that you can’t aim once it starts firing
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Sleeper Simulant, technically
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Roctavian posted:I also want to see: A lot of these already exist in some form. quote:Special ammo rapid fire gun that’s something between Auto Rifles and LMGs quote:Heavy Trace Rifle quote:Heavy Pulse quote:Heavy Sidearm quote:Wave Frame Hand Cannon
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Apr 4, 2023 16:40
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ascendant alloys are way too hard to get now, lol that they only come from weeklies/400 legendary shards/wellspring. They need to drop from defiant battlegrounds
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Apr 4, 2023 16:40
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A wave motion cannon?
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Okay hear me out, you know how dead messenger was three wave frames taped together? What about three dead messengers taped together?
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Kith posted:(heavy trace) It's mostly an aesthetic thing, but I feel like there's probably something interesting you could do mechanically with a "heavy trace" that'd set it apart from LMGs.
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Oxyclean posted:"a lot of bullets" is not a laser. make it do the death star laser thing where a couple of smaller lasers converge into a SUPER LASER
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counterpoint: ghostbusters laser. make it all wiggly and lock on to its primary target
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I liked the idea of Coldheart - this bucking bronco laser with damage to make it worth it - but then the catalyst made it way more steady and new weapons came in to outshine it. I think a heavy version that doesn't shy away from "after holding the trigger for more than 1.5 seconds this things gonna try and fly out of your hands" type gun I think they're fun
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Jack B Nimble posted:Also, does anyone else despise the titan jump? Everything about this thing is bad and I want to do a hunter double jump so bad. I overshoot landings, I get pushed off ledges and can't change direction, I bump into low ceilings, it sucks! strafe lift only ever, don't use high outside some super super niche cases catapult has some uses as well, but strafe is still the way the cadence of all three jumps for the different classes is different, for warlocks it's a fast double tap, but titans it's slightly delayed - you can also use it to skate almost perfectly horizonal across the ground with a little practice
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high lift supremacy. fly forever.
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Strafe lasts the longer than catapult as well, allowing a lot more activate/ deactivate shenanigans I’ve found. Some people swear by catapult but I can’t make it work. Strangely the highest you can go with strafe is still double tapping like you’re some warlock, but most jumps are delayed until you’re halfway up, slowing near your peak, at your peak, or as you start falling again (for distance). E: I said longest but high lift may be as long or longer, I wouldn’t know because it sucks uwaeve fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Apr 4, 2023 |
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goddamn just make nightfall playlists or merge them into one thing with level modifiers. they are so repetitious. strike playlists are way more fun.
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Kith posted:high lift supremacy. fly forever. 
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uwaeve posted:E: I said longest but high lift may be as long or longer, I wouldn’t know because it sucks high lift lasts for 2.6 seconds, strafe lift lasts for 2.2, catapult lift lasts for 1. though if you have lion rampant, lift duration is increased to 4 seconds for all types, so catapault rampant is the best of all worlds
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victrix posted:you can also use it to skate almost perfectly horizonal across the ground with a little practice 
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Kith posted:high lift lasts for 2.6 seconds, strafe lift lasts for 2.2, catapult lift lasts for 1. Ty for the data, I didn’t know any of this.
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Jack B Nimble posted:Is lifting faster than sprinting? No idea but I compulsively hover as much as I compulsively reload now.
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Jack B Nimble posted:Is lifting faster than sprinting? it can be if you're skating but otherwise no uwaeve posted:Ty for the data, I didn’t know any of this.  i get most of my destiny data from the data compendium if you'd ever like to look things up yourself! however you have to be a little roundabout sometimes if you're looking for something specific - for example, i know the titan lift durations because the lion rampant section has them, not because there's a section for class jump details
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Jack B Nimble posted:Is lifting faster than sprinting? with skating tech, but if you're going to do that just equip an eager edge and put on some edm while you pretend to be a speed runner I'm too lazy for that poo poo that said, if you're good at ground-scooting with lift, you tend to be faster at getting around almost any map than any garden variety pubbies, and most other players who aren't skilled at movement or speed tech, simply because you're doing as the crow flies movement without worrying about interacting with any of the terrain on the way e: this is also specifically why I dislike high lift, strafe is much easier to do very controlled movement with gentle adjustments, high lasts slightly longer than strafe, but not enough to make up for the annoying extra vertical momentum which interferes with glassy smooth hovering Mobility also affects any of this slightly, though it's generally only an issue with very high values, Mob affects your base jump height and acceleration, which can affect how you move - you'll notice this real quick if you have like 2-4 mob and pick up the max Mob boosts from the Queen, suddenly you're high jumping everywhere and it feels weird as hell (it also affects your base movement speed, but not sprint speed - for that, get you a lightweight weapon, which I actually highly encourage be part of your daily pve loadout, super comfy) victrix fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Apr 4, 2023 |
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Lethrom posted:Okay hear me out, you know how dead messenger was three wave frames taped together? 4 Cerberus+1s taped together.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:I will always respect anyone that uses Sweet Business. I have never been mad in crucible getting killed by it. Whoever is using it is clearly having a good time Oh for sure. Got a lot of fun emotes, some high fives, and a tea bag here and there. Even some opposition switched to SB...or a scout rifle to counter. But i didn't get the angry vibe. I think it's tits because people love to challenge peek and can't aim at you when they are instantly taking 900rpm to the face from pulse rifle range.
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Strafe lift with some delay is definitely slightly faster than sprinting but nothing compared to keeping an eager edge lunge’s momentum. It may not even beat someone with a lightweight frame buff, but it’s noticeable in random strikes where I can gradually overtake people by scooting horizontally a lot.
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