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starkebn posted:I think it's just this. I don't think TikTok harvests anything different to the other social media apps, but people are happy for them to supply info to the "right" governments Urgh gross. I remember a few years ago when facebook got caught having their app upload every photo on your device to facebook's servers, not just ones you manually uploaded. Just absolutely dog-brained poo poo to ban tiktok for "security reasons" and not anything else.
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In my opinion it's definitely just China Bad. Last time I checked MPs can have Facebook on their phones and it was only last year that it was established that Facebook US operates in Australia (when it comes to collecting the personal information of Australians) due to this: https://www.cliffordchance.com/insi...k-to-carry.html quote:This unprecedent enforcement action was taken in response to the Facebook-Cambridge Analytica scandal, whereby the personal information of 86 million Facebook users collected through Facebook's 'This is Your Digital Life' application was disclosed and used without consent for political profiling purposes in the lead up to the 2016 US Presidential Election. While only 53 Facebook users installed the application in Australia, the personal information of those users and over 300,000 of their friends was disclosed and used. Snowden had a fair bit to say about Facebook & the NSA - obviously not all of it applies here but: https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/10/31/20940532/edward-snowden-facebook-nsa-whistleblower quote:“Facebook’s internal purpose, whether they state it publicly or not, is to compile perfect records of private lives to the maximum extent of their capability, and then exploit that for their own corporate enrichment. And drat the consequences,” Snowden told Swisher. “This is actually precisely the same as what the NSA does. Google ... has a very similar model. They go, ‘Oh, we’re connecting people.’ They go, ‘Oh, we’re organizing data.’” Although, Snowden said, these companies still don’t know as much as the government, which can gather information from all of the many tech platforms. And we know, also from Snowden, that the NSA has access to Facebook for analysis. Again, we're not in the US, but I've never heard the Australian Government kicking up a fuss that the US Government uses data collected from Facebook to spy on their citizens.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:https://twitter.com/6NewsAU/status/1643461684370223109 Most media analysis of the Liberals recently: 'maybe you should stand for something and not just say NO to everything' The Liberals: 'Better say NO to the Voice, that'll do it'
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Doctor Spaceman posted:https://twitter.com/6NewsAU/status/1643461684370223109 Mark Latham has them rattled they'll lose the bigot vote.
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Lol awkward for the frontbenchers. Didn’t Leeser give a national press club address in support of the voice like 2 days ago
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If you're a Lib front bencher who supports it just loving publicly support it anyway. Worst case Dutton takes you off the front bench, and you get back on when he's eventually rolled.
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The funniest thing about the LNP position is that they’re concerned about the wording but can never articulate what part of the wording bothers them.
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Albo by example.
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Has there ever been a referendum passed without the support of both major parties?
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No referendum has succeeded without bipartisan support, so while the Coalition is loving comical this does not look good. I was expecting a begrudging neutral or support while sniping from the sidelines instead of this.
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jeffreyw posted:The funniest thing about the LNP position is that they’re concerned about the wording but can never articulate what part of the wording bothers them. the main objection that some of them is specifically about the inclusion of 'executive government' in the second clause because they're concerned it will allow every single government decision to be challenged in court for not sufficiently consulting the voice. there are some conservative constitutional law experts who are backing that position, but other constitutional law experts have completely rejected it. but of course many in the party are opposing it for broader reasons than just that
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Non Compos Mentis posted:who told him to wear glasses to soften his image? It does work though, breaks up the monotone, hairless ball-of-skin effect
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lih posted:but of course many in the party are opposing it for broader reasons than just that It must be exhausting to be a right-wing politician and constantly have to mask your real opinions (or at least mask what you think the base wants to hear) behind some other technocrat bullshit. I wonder if they ever look at One Nation and think "gently caress it'd be nice to just say what we mean and mean what we say."
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:loving hell these two just exude charisma don't they 
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Noel Pearson's response in an interview on RN today is absolutely wonderful.
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hooman posted:With the tiktok ban from government devices, does anyone here know what other apps are banned from government devices? Like do they have an "approved apps" list and you can only download them if they hit that list (which presumably tiktok has been removed from) or are these melted brained pricks still free to download "COIN RUSH XXL! XD" and have all their data scraped? I work for a company that manages most of the NSW state gov MDM (mobile device management) the only one with any real MDM security policies (for now) is FACS/DCJ. its mostly about data sovereignty and because a lot of their work involves minors and sensitive/delicate info of people in very lovely situations (DV etc). there is 'approved' apps but they can also just grab anything from the app store if they want. the approved apps list is generally just stuff the organisation uses, but it is in addition to the app store. AFAIK nothing is overtly blocked from the app store at this time. if there is, they dont talk about it. most people with a gov issued phone also have a personal phone, so they dont really use anything besides Outlook/work specific apps on their work phone. i would guess it is about 5-10% that have their gov issued device as their single phone.
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lih posted:the main objection that some of them is specifically about the inclusion of 'executive government' in the second clause because they're concerned it will allow every single government decision to be challenged in court for not sufficiently consulting the voice. there are some conservative constitutional law experts who are backing that position, but other constitutional law experts have completely rejected it. If that’s their problem with the wording, I can see why a lot of conservatives are mealy mouthed and unable to elaborate on a super technocratic objection. Especially when it contradicts Dutton’s own reasoning that the Voice does absolutely nothing for First Nations people.
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the ones who are focusing on that very technical legal objection are the ones who had been generally supportive of the voice up until very recently, while it's hard to believe that dutton was ever going to support it
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Ken Wyatt has reportedly quit the liberal party due to their opposition to the voice.
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I'm what? A Lib with some form of decency? No. Edit: I see he lost his seat in the last election, so I suppose this is a good way to retire and seem less of a monster.
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Update to my previous post, NSW Cyber Security is advising all agencies to block TikTok and some have already implemented the change. Outlook/Teams/other apps do not function if TikTok is detected on the device.
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Oh he’s not even in parliament any more? Lol.
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kenn wyatt didnt quit the lnp when rio tinto destroyed sacred sites approved by the lnp so i dont consider him a good gauge of principles sorry
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I love the the RBA and the way this reads... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-06/rba-financial-stability-review-interest-rates-mortgage-stress/102195028 Sure, 15% of households are hosed, and 9% are turbo hosed, but relax everyone, the banks will be just fine. I mean, I know they are reporting on their mandated function of maintaining a stable banking system, it just reads as pure-strain capitalism if I ever saw it.
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Lowe thinks capitalism is good.
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G-Spot Run posted:Lowe thinks capitalism is good. en economic system of competition between 4 banks, 2 food suppliers and 1 media company.
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G-Spot Run posted:Lowe thinks capitalism is good. Lighting up a cigarette in my trench coat in a multistorey carpark at 2:00am and informing a journo from the Guardian that the Governor of the Reserve Bank thinks capitalism is good
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Uh yeah. It's not a secret, he gave testimony in the senate hearings about it. Saying the article about the RBAs plan reads like pure capitalism... Yes, the call is coming from inside the house.
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What are thoughts on this article? https://reneweconomy.com.au/australias-hydrogen-superpower-dream-could-be-massive-waste-of-money-says-griffith/amp/ quote:The well-funded push to make Australia a green hydrogen superpower is shaping up to be a costly economic mistake and a waste of the nation’s abundant renewable energy resources, Rewiring Australia co-founder Saul Griffith has warned. Putting my thoughts in the next post, because I don't want to bias any readings of this article.
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I tend to like the hydrogen plans, at least initially, because they solve a problem with renewables of inconsistent generation. Having much more wind and solar than you need so the lower times are covered by storing energy, which in SA at least is intended to happen by making hydrogen seems like an inefficient but good battery because it let's you store a LOT of energy. Not convinced by the plans to export excess hydrogen. Will there actually be a market for it? I hope so. At the same time, the Australian focus on exporting raw materials and killing our local processing and manufacturing has been a terrible thing and I generally support any move towards exporting more higher value materials. Maybe it's the fact it's presented as an either/or that makes me suspicious? If either is profitable, then use that to also develop the other and do both?
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There's a science communicator/YouTuber Sabine Hossenfelder who has a very good video talking about hydro of all colours of the rainbow. I watch them as I'm going to sleep usually, so I'm paraphrasing a lot here, but the vibe I left with was ".... Nah". I think it's this one https://youtu.be/Zklo4Z1SqkE
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quote:Expensive because, as Rewiring Australia explains in its written submission, it takes three times as much electricity to produce the hydrogen that eventually powers a machine that could have been powered with just one third of the starting electricity if it was stored in a battery not a hydrogen cell. hard to get past this
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Animal Friend posted:en economic system of competition between 4 banks, 2 food suppliers and 1 media company. I don't know what it's like in other States, but in WA on the food supply side we have some more competition now. Coles, Woolies, Spud Shed, Aldi, and then the independent grocers association (IGA).
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