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I’m not even considering Exotic Focusing to be a factor in any of my processes in this game because from what it sounds like it’s only going to apply to Exotic engrams that drop randomly in the world. I think the last time that happened to me was like, eight months ago?
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"gently caress you, we're not making it easier." King poo poo, honestly.
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MJeff posted:"gently caress you, we're not making it easier." Number went higher than ever, therefore your complaints are invalid!
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Bungie thinks more hours played == Happier players. Therefore, cranking the difficulty == more hours played == more engagement and happier players. In reality, making the difficulty higher just turns everything into a goddamn slog.
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Pirate Jet posted:Double post cuz a new Wednesday pseudo-TWAB just hit https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/article/reflecting-on-lightfall This is a fantastic not-twab. Tons of great news.
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Their response to the LLS difficulty complaints was to barely tweak enemy HP and then say "go level up, stupid." I love it so much. The stuff about making orbs easier to get was great too, it's such a pain in the rear end to have all of your healing tied up in collectibles and you die trying to get them.
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Lol at “there was an activity in which you didn’t feel pressured at all times and that was a problem we had to fix”
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FlapYoJacks posted:Bungie thinks more hours played == Happier players. As much as I love this game, I inherently hate it on a fundamental level because it took live service and ran with it to be a showcase. Like, I want to play other games but this thing asks for all of my surprisingly limited time if I want to get and do everything in a season or week. I very much would actually prefer a big content dump that lets me both finish it at length at my own pace, as well as cram it all in frontloaded and then have a nice break or play things I want to. Despite "don't play it if you don't like it" that doesn't apply for completionist or achievement tendencies. I want this season's title so I need to find people to drag me through at least three legendary avalon runs and playing just the normal run last night solo was a miserable two hour experience. The clan/discord makes it super easy to find people for it but I would much rather not do it at all.
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Apr 5, 2023 20:33
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when playing my video games i really want to feel "unsafe and oppressed"
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The real cost to focus an exotic is gonna be a Cipher You can get one a week from Xur so it doesn't really matter that the stack is 5 Unless I missed them say they're adding new sources?
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Zokari posted:when playing my video games i really want to feel "unsafe and oppressed" Do you generally play action games to feel safe and comforted?
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:The real cost to focus an exotic is gonna be a Cipher The season track gives you one as well
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Apr 5, 2023 20:39
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MJeff posted:Do you generally play action games to feel safe and comforted? Sometimes it's fun to do a power fantasy
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:The real cost to focus an exotic is gonna be a Cipher There's one or two in the pass I think. Which doesn't help much since the cap is one. I think Rahool has one sitting there for me that I can't collect for whatever reason.
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MJeff posted:Do you generally play action games to feel safe and comforted? No, but if I'm going to play with some kind of hosed up difficulty spike, I would at least like the option to choose to do so.
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MJeff posted:Do you generally play action games to feel safe and comforted? wow, good point I know when I play god of war I generally feel very weak and scared
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Even in actual "difficult" games players generally feel powerful and not scared of everything. Bungie is so far in their little bubble of 2014 they willingly misread interpret their data and try rear end backwards to justify everything they do.
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SgtSteel91 posted:The season track gives you one as well Yeah it's pretty grim. They best be adding new sources unless they only intend for you to focus one exotic a week
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Does the cost matter when the source is random exotic engrams that drop once or twice a season?
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:unless they only intend for you to focus one exotic a week search your feelings. you know it to be true
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What difficulty are we complaining about again? Because the power curve isn't going to increase as seasons go on, and there are significant weapon buffs coming next season. So if legendary lost sectors are a problem now, they're going to be significantly less challenging as time goes on.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Yeah it's pretty grim. They best be adding new sources unless they only intend for you to focus one exotic a week from what I understand you can only do the focus if you get a dropped exotic engram, and those drop randomly like once a week as well
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MJeff posted:Do you generally play action games to feel safe and comforted? Games where you have to be “on” all the time are exhausting Plus most action games let you achieve a plateau of mastery where through build or skill you’ve caused a noticeable reduction in the challenge and danger, and Bungie disabled this in the most arbitrary way possible (levels you gain after a certain point are meaningless)
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sunday at work posted:Does the cost matter when the source is random exotic engrams that drop once or twice a season? SgtSteel91 posted:from what I understand you can only do the focus if you get a dropped exotic engram, and those drop randomly like once a week as well I feel like they've been dropping more often than usual this season.
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But only like 10% of players actually want this game to be hard. I play Destiny as literal video game junk food. I'm not REALLY here for the challenge much. Just to shoot dudes with cool scifi guns and powers. I'll seek out the challenge like solo dungeons when I feel. As long as their idea of challenge is being critical health 95% of your playtime fighting tanky enemies that don't react to you shooting them then the game will become more and more un fun for a majority of players. And no, I'm not really talking about myself. The only frustrating parts are Neomuna patrols and LLS's aka the power delta. The rest is manageable. Haven't played a Master nightfall yet cuz why would I but i'll see how that goes this weekend.
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sunday at work posted:Does the cost matter when the source is random exotic engrams that drop once or twice a season? I get a pretty good thwack of 4-5 a week but that's definitely a result of play style. I wouldn't be surprised if everybody is limited by a different factor, now that I think about it! Solo Players won't have enough golf balls, people who only play a small slice of game modes won't have enough engrams, and Arete Players won't have enough ciphers! If everybody is inconvenienced in a Different way, is that a sign of a good resource economy or bad resource economy? I don't even know!!
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i dont have enough glimmer e: or enhancement cores
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:I get a pretty good thwack of 4-5 a week but that's definitely a result of play style. I wouldn't be surprised if everybody is limited by a different factor, now that I think about it! Solo Players won't have enough golf balls, people who only play a small slice of game modes won't have enough engrams, and Arete Players won't have enough ciphers! The solution is to introduce another core resource.
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haveblue posted:Games where you have to be “on” all the time are exhausting Okay, but we're talking about one specific zone, not "all the time". Also, the plateau Bungie seems to have in mind in the case of this zone is buildcrafting. They said it outright, they made Neomuna the way it is to encourage buildcrafting. They're clearly trying to go really hard on this idea of using difficulty to force players to learn how to engage with all the tools they have at their disposal.
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MJeff posted:Okay, but we're talking about one specific zone, not "all the time". The backbone of build-crafting is Surges & Overcharges which are inactive on Neomuna They want Neomuna to be a slog Mission success, but also who cares, Patrol Zones are dead after the expansion is released. When's the last time anyone checked in on Savathun's Throne World?
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:The backbone of build-crafting is Surges & Overcharges which are inactive on Neomuna When I was just doing WQ, I would see maybe 3 people there, at any given time. Going great(?)
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MJeff posted:Okay, but we're talking about one specific zone, not "all the time". no one was avoiding, like, the cosmodrome because it was "too easy." people are actively deciding against knocking out banshee bounties or whatever on neomuna because killing even one red bar is a slog so why would you farm SMG kills there rather than anywhere else? for A. new content that B. has public events that go more smoothly with more people, it seems like some bad planning to me!
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RBX posted:But only like 10% of players actually want this game to be hard. I play Destiny as literal video game junk food. I'm not REALLY here for the challenge much. Just to shoot dudes with cool scifi guns and powers. I'll seek out the challenge like solo dungeons when I feel. As long as their idea of challenge is being critical health 95% of your playtime fighting tanky enemies that don't react to you shooting them then the game will become more and more un fun for a majority of players. This sums up my thoughts on the changes to challenge that have been made. I didn't play space wizard simulator for the challenge I played to have fun. Which they've managed to suck out of the game with these changes so I stopped playing. It's left me a bit miffed because between skimming twitter comments, r/DTG, this thread I don't recall a majority consensus that this game wasn't fun because it was too easy, I don't recall seeing ANY posts complain about challenge (day one RoN being the notable exception). I don't engage with streamer stuff whatsoever short of the odd esoterickk how to video, were they shouting for greater difficulty?
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:When's the last time anyone checked in on Savathun's Throne World? I use it occasionally for doing gunsmith bounties or chill weapon leveling (GoA entrance for less-chill leveling).
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rocket_Magnet posted:This sums up my thoughts on the changes to challenge that have been made. I didn't play space wizard simulator for the challenge I played to have fun. Which they've managed to suck out of the game with these changes so I stopped playing. It's left me a bit miffed because between skimming twitter comments, r/DTG, this thread I don't recall a majority consensus that this game wasn't fun because it was too easy, I don't recall seeing ANY posts complain about challenge (day one RoN being the notable exception). I don't engage with streamer stuff whatsoever short of the odd esoterickk how to video, were they shouting for greater difficulty? Most of those dipshits scream nonstop for greater difficulty.
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SmallpoxJenkins posted:Most of those dipshits scream nonstop for greater difficulty. of course they do, the more exclusive a game is the more people will want to watch them
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Yeah it's pretty grim. They best be adding new sources unless they only intend for you to focus one exotic a week The basically-confirmed leaked PowerPoint from Freezing Dart says the upcoming rotating Exotic mission will allow you “complete your Cipher faster” whatever that means (referring to Xenology quest from Xur maybe?) https://twitter.com/Bungie_Leaks/status/1643706366790385665 MJeff posted:Okay, but we're talking about one specific zone, not "all the time". Encouraging buildcrafting by making patrols difficult is the stupidest loving thing I’ve ever heard.
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Look, if you don't wanna be challenged, just go play the raid. 
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