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tight aspirations
Jul 13, 2009

drk posted:

That's not really how chemistry works, pretty much everything organic from food to poison is made up of C, H, N, and O. Your body doesnt break things down into individual elements

Well I don't know anything much about chemistry, so I figured the body would recognise it as atmospheric nitrogen, figure it doesn't need it and just get rid of it.

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Brain Curry
Feb 15, 2007

People think that I'm lazy
People think that I'm this fool because
I give a fuck about the government
I didn't graduate from high school



Scratch Monkey posted:

I’ve never done whippets but it sound really stupid. You get high for like 30 seconds?

So high though. Twitching and drooling high. I personally only really enjoyed them while tripping or candy-flipping, but the short duration is definitely part of the appeal since you get so hosed up it would be unpleasant to feel like that for too long.

DominoKitten
Aug 7, 2012

Making poppers is good with money at least

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/davidmack/poppers-factory

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

Well, yeah, who else is going to fill the critical need for VCR cleaner?

totalnewbie
Nov 13, 2005

I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.

tight aspirations posted:

Well I don't know anything much about chemistry, so I figured the body would recognise it as atmospheric nitrogen, figure it doesn't need it and just get rid of it.

Nitrogen is two flat lego pieces put together. Stepping on it is eh, that's fine.

Oxygen is a lego piece with a different shape but only fits with the nitrogen pieces in a way that the oxygen sticks up. You don't want to step on it.

Just two oxygens, though, you can lay it flat, so it's still okay to step on.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Baddog posted:

I still don't get why the Zappos dude wasn't just doing this, instead of being knee deep in empty whippets.

The cracker is fast and easy, which is part of the appeal, though he could definitely have afforded an inhalant sommelier to fill balloons for him.

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic
Good BWM hatewatch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZpWki2mOA4

He starts out with some sympathy when he says he can't find work because of an ill-advised tweet. But as you quickly find out, he probably can't find work because he's an absolutely insufferable person.

Then all the hits play out. Refuses to take jobs that are beneath him. Dwells incessantly on his past achievements. Leaches off his parents. Everything is someone else's fault.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Raskolnikov2089 posted:

He starts out with some sympathy when he says he can't find work because of an ill-advised tweet.

How does this gain him any sympathy? He made a public terroristic thread towards the governor of his state. That's no okay, no matter who you are or they are. It perfectly encapsulates this person's impulse control problems which a a large part of why they are failing at life.

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic

Motronic posted:

How does this gain him any sympathy? He made a public terroristic thread towards the governor of his state. That's no okay, no matter who you are or they are. It perfectly encapsulates this person's impulse control problems which a a large part of why they are failing at life.

"I'll eat your heart" is about on par with "I'll gnaw on your bones" for serious threats. It's hyperbole. Stupid (and weird) and ill-advised to say to anyone, let alone a public figure, but okay, maybe he was just a drunken dumbass, sucks that his life was ruined thereafter. But then the rest of the video goes on and it's a pretty obvious pattern like you say.

By the midpoint of the video I want to hear the side of the guy who assaulted him.

Raskolnikov2089 fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Apr 5, 2023

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/5/23671000/jpmorgan-frank-fraud-fintech-startup-ceo-javice-charged-student-financial-aid

Former Frank CEO Charlie Javice has been charged with defrauding JPMorgan Chase after the bank acquired her financial aid startup for $175 million in 2021. In a complaint filed on Tuesday, the Department of Justice accuses the fintech founder of “falsely and dramatically inflating” the number of clients her startup served to “fraudulently induce” JPMorgan Chase into acquiring the company.
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Note: The biggest rule about scamming is to not scam rich people (or rich companies, who are technically people)

No sympathy for Chase or anything though but yeah maybe not a good idea to scam them so blatantly.

Strong Sauce fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Apr 5, 2023

MEIN RAVEN
Oct 7, 2008

Gutentag Mein Raven

Raskolnikov2089 posted:

Good BWM hatewatch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZpWki2mOA4

He starts out with some sympathy when he says he can't find work because of an ill-advised tweet. But as you quickly find out, he probably can't find work because he's an absolutely insufferable person.

Then all the hits play out. Refuses to take jobs that are beneath him. Dwells incessantly on his past achievements. Leaches off his parents. Everything is someone else's fault.

I honestly came away from that video kind of hating them both. I got real fed up with the host going "well you really should take that job at Whataburger," since the core of that response is "Bootstraps." There was probably more after that, but I'm really sick of Dave Ramsay-type bullshit.

The comments section too. Jesus what a bunch of smarmy fucks.

Brain Curry
Feb 15, 2007

People think that I'm lazy
People think that I'm this fool because
I give a fuck about the government
I didn't graduate from high school



MEIN RAVEN posted:

I honestly came away from that video kind of hating them both. I got real fed up with the host going "well you really should take that job at Whataburger," since the core of that response is "Bootstraps." There was probably more after that, but I'm really sick of Dave Ramsay-type bullshit.

The comments section too. Jesus what a bunch of smarmy fucks.

The host charges 700$ an hour. Presumably for his “not official financial advice”

icecastle
Jun 9, 2008

Phanatic posted:

Chronic use deactivates vitamin B12 and demylinates your nerves and leads to permanent paralysis, yes.

It demyelinates the spinal cord (subacute combined degeneration of the cord) and is reversible with no permanent deficits if caught early and treated with B12 injections. It takes a gently caress ton to cause B12 deficiency.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

MEIN RAVEN posted:

I honestly came away from that video kind of hating them both. I got real fed up with the host going "well you really should take that job at Whataburger," since the core of that response is "Bootstraps." There was probably more after that, but I'm really sick of Dave Ramsay-type bullshit.

I go back and forth on this. Bootstraps arguments universally suck, but there's also a segment of the population that thinks they're too good to put in a shift flipping burgers. You see it a lot with weird 30-something fail kids who never moved out of mom's basement. At some point you need to develop some kind of work history, or at the very least make rent, and there's a subset of privileged shits who can avoid needing to do that poo poo by mooching off their parents. That poo poo is objectionable because they're using their privileged position to dodge the realities that most of us face. I mean, if I was out of work for long enough I'd loving have to bite the bullet and look for a job at McDonalds or whatever other crap job I don't really want because, hey, it loving blows but it's better than not buying groceries.

Basically it's a poo poo response if you're punching down on some single mother who is standing on a benefits cliff, but it's a pretty reasonable response for someone mooching off their folks who thinks that kind of work is beneath them.

LanceHunter
Nov 12, 2016

Beautiful People Club


At least we can all agree that Caleb Hammer is an idiot and an rear end in a top hat, though.

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





MEIN RAVEN posted:

I honestly came away from that video kind of hating them both. I got real fed up with the host going "well you really should take that job at Whataburger," since the core of that response is "Bootstraps." There was probably more after that, but I'm really sick of Dave Ramsay-type bullshit.

The comments section too. Jesus what a bunch of smarmy fucks.

i'm more than half way done atm..

first, i've watched this caleb hammer guy before and even though i feel like a lot of his videos have gotten... it's more like something for his youtube audience to gawk at while he kinda yells at them in a kitchen nightmares/gordon ramsey type of setup.

he charge $700.. which my attitude is a combination of, "good for him" from where he started but also icky that he charges people with finance problems... $700.. i don't really know what a good solution to that is... he probably gets people to pay him at that price so he does it...

second, i mean that dude got into a bad situation where he tweeted something that IMO should not have gotten him any kind of record at all. eating someone's heart is not a threat unless you're saying something like, "i'm going to murder you and eat your heart"... like what petty bullshit is that to have it happen.

regardless he did get in trouble and unfortunately life hosed him over for it. but imo caleb telling the dude to take a job at whataburger is not a bootstraps response... i mean the dude literally needs to eat, he needs a job. and if the best job he can get atm is whataburger he should take that job.

a bootstraps response would be the guy working at whataburger, asking what he should do to climb out of debt, and caleb telling him, "well you gotta continue working there until you get promoted to manager"... i mean maybe working at whataburger is an easy answer but this dude has no money and he refuses to take a job because it's beneath him... he is not special, this is something that TONS of people have to do.

yes it would be nice if our government provided better services for us and we could do jobs like whataburger part time and pursue our passions the other half... but this is reality. he's mooching off his parents at 41 and he thinks he's too good for flipping burgers. maybe in the meantime swallow your pride and do it to make money.

Strong Sauce fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Apr 5, 2023

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
these forums invented the word failson, might as well use it more

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


totalnewbie posted:

The frightening thing about nitrogen is that you don't realize you're suffocating. CO2 produces the feeling that you can't breathe. N2, you just collapse and die without even knowing anything is wrong.

Many moons ago I did hypoxia training with N2 to recognize symptoms as aircrew. My takeaway was that it can sneak up on you if you're not expecting it but most people have physiological tells, particularly when under cognitive load.

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





lmao this dude starts acting out at the end calls caleb hammer, "you're dave ramsey... but you trump it up into chef ramsey". pretty lol

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

I'm not sure this guy has any actual skills or experience. Every time he describes a thing he 'did' all my bullshit detectors scream that really what happened was that he was in proximity to other people who delivered and he has constructed a narrative whereby he was the central figure and yet mysteriously nobody ever wanted to keep him around.

The only thing I believe he actually did was write articles on the internet at $15 a pop and I know one person who did that and they were supported by their parents and hustled like crazy and now they are an award winning screenwriter for TV.

MEIN RAVEN
Oct 7, 2008

Gutentag Mein Raven

Strong Sauce posted:

lmao this dude starts acting out at the end calls caleb hammer, "you're dave ramsey... but you trump it up into chef ramsey". pretty lol

Almost makes me want to watch it again. Almost.

MEIN RAVEN
Oct 7, 2008

Gutentag Mein Raven

David Ramsey is very…problematic to me. Not because his advice is universally bad (it’s often really banal, from what I’ve heard), but more because, like many public figures, he makes himself into some kind of omniscient financial guru and, because he has a platform, people just believe it.

And he doesn’t know everything! In fact he has wild deficiencies! I know at least one article covering this had a transcript of a phone call where he was consulting with someone with a lot of student loan debt. Like 6 figures. And Dave’s advice wasn’t “have you considered an income based debt repayment plan,” ostensibly because “ooooo handouts and debt bad.” Instead his advice was for the guy to get a job driving a taxi. Just generic bad boomer advice. But boy we love generic bad boomer advice. Which…guess that video smelt of that.

On the topic of poppers, here’s how they serve them in vietnam. The smaller guy in front passed out and hit his head on the table about 5 seconds after I snuck this pic.

Thufir
May 19, 2004

"The fucking Mayans were right."
Dave Ramsey is also, by all accounts, a psycho dickhead rear end in a top hat to his employees.

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic

MEIN RAVEN posted:

On the topic of poppers, here’s how they serve them in vietnam. The smaller guy in front passed out and hit his head on the table about 5 seconds after I snuck this pic.



Those aren't poppers. You're thinking of whippets.

Poppers are an inhalant that turns you into a sex demon for about 30 seconds, followed by potential lung and eye damage.

Borscht
Jun 4, 2011
gently caress yeah they are.

MEIN RAVEN
Oct 7, 2008

Gutentag Mein Raven

Raskolnikov2089 posted:

Those aren't poppers. You're thinking of whippets.

Poppers are an inhalant that turns you into a sex demon for about 30 seconds, followed by potential lung and eye damage.

You are correct. I clearly need to refresh my drug lingo.

Me, to a dealer: “excuse me sir, can I order one drug please?”

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA
There are general topic email lists at work, including "investing" and "real estate investing". The investing one is pretty sane and bars crypto discussion, but recently the real estate investing list has begun crosspromoting to it about guests they invite to give talks, all of whom are ~*•influencers•*~ promoting investing as a lifestyle.

:yikes:

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.

MEIN RAVEN posted:

David Ramsey is very…problematic to me. Not because his advice is universally bad (it’s often really banal, from what I’ve heard), but more because, like many public figures, he makes himself into some kind of omniscient financial guru and, because he has a platform, people just believe it.

Dave Ramsey really, really sucks.

Their employee handbook and policy specifically prohibits premarital sex, and they enforce it. They've fired 9 people since 2016 over it: https://citywire.com/ria/news/dave-ramsey-s-company-has-fired-two-men-for-watching-porn/a2376495?linkSource=article-body

It's also terminable to watch porn in your free time. Their interview process requires that they interview your spouse as well, to make sure that you are in a heterosexual relationship and also to confirm that your wife either doesn't work or is doing women's work. If your wife isn't a nurse or teacher, you aren't getting an offer.

SamDabbers
May 26, 2003



Cugel the Clever posted:

There are general topic email lists at work, including "investing" and "real estate investing". The investing one is pretty sane and bars crypto discussion, but recently the real estate investing list has begun crosspromoting to it about guests they invite to give talks, all of whom are ~*•influencers•*~ promoting investing as a lifestyle.

:yikes:

One of the old timers in my department told me there used to be general topic email lists and pretty much any employee could create one, until someone set up an illegal gambling book and the FBI got involved. Losing your job and getting arrested by the FBI is pretty BWM I would say.

PalaNIN
Sep 19, 2004

LRLRRRLLRRLRLRLRRLRLR

Raskolnikov2089 posted:

Those aren't poppers. You're thinking of whippets.

In Australia we call whippets nangs, because that's the sound you hear after you take one.

nanganangananganangananganang

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




PalaNIN posted:

nanganangananganangananganang

Can confirm. Source: I did the occasional whippet in college. I'd use them as a study break, and they were pretty good for it. You're absolutely blasted off your rear end for a couple of minutes, recover for a couple, and then you can hit the books again. A+++++++ would not do again.

MEIN RAVEN
Oct 7, 2008

Gutentag Mein Raven

Twerk from Home posted:

Dave Ramsey really, really sucks.

Their employee handbook and policy specifically prohibits premarital sex, and they enforce it. They've fired 9 people since 2016 over it: https://citywire.com/ria/news/dave-ramsey-s-company-has-fired-two-men-for-watching-porn/a2376495?linkSource=article-body

It's also terminable to watch porn in your free time. Their interview process requires that they interview your spouse as well, to make sure that you are in a heterosexual relationship and also to confirm that your wife either doesn't work or is doing women's work. If your wife isn't a nurse or teacher, you aren't getting an offer.

I love more reasons to hate Dave Ramsay. It’s like mana for my (unreal) soul

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


He also gives out really lovely investment advice

Dude sucks poo poo

EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

DOLF IS RECHTVAARDIG

mllaneza posted:

Can confirm. Source: I did the occasional whippet in college. I'd use them as a study break, and they were pretty good for it. You're absolutely blasted off your rear end for a couple of minutes, recover for a couple, and then you can hit the books again. A+++++++ would not do again.

I always loved the short high/buzz you get from (mostly but not exclusively) oxygen deprivation when you smoke a shisha, because it dissipates in minutes and there's no actual psycho-active stuff entering your body other than a bit of nicotine.

Also, there was gently caress all else to do (or drink) when I lived in Kuwait, so it became a normal thing to do after dinner.

Then once I moved back, I read that shisha smoking is way worse for your lungs than cigarettes because of the huge amount of smoke you inhale, so I quit the shisha too

Martman
Nov 20, 2006

PalaNIN posted:

In Australia we call whippets nangs, because that's the sound you hear after you take one.

nanganangananganangananganang
I tried them once about 15 years ago, read this, and was like "wow. it's true"

greazeball
Feb 4, 2003



PalaNIN posted:

nanganangananganangananganang


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg6PIW9iRw4

The guitar in this track always brings it back for me

Mad Wack
Mar 27, 2008

"The faster you use your cooldowns, the faster you can use them again"
my only defense of dave ramsey is he was on the radio so he got college aged me to actually consider that personal finance was something you could learn about and improve on, i outgrew him in about three months but even thinking about this stuff is a total paradigm shift if you were just raised your whole life to mindlessly consume

also i liked all the bwm stories even if daves advice was terrible

dude is definitely an rear end in a top hat

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Strong Sauce posted:

second, i mean that dude got into a bad situation where he tweeted something that IMO should not have gotten him any kind of record at all. eating someone's heart is not a threat unless you're saying something like, "i'm going to murder you and eat your heart"... like what petty bullshit is that to have it happen.

Just because social media makes it easy and also make you feel like we're all on the same level playing field doesn't mean that's true. You should not be saying things like this to or about public figures. How do you think this would have gone down if you called the guy? Or mailed that as a letter? It's being treated the same way, and it will be treated with or without context, whichever one makes the desired result easier.

It's amazing anyone needs to be told any of this. But here we are.

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

The only Dave Ramsey video I've ever seen was a guy who called in and said he was thinking of getting engaged, and asked if he should get a prenup because he had about a million net worth mostly from "real estate investments" aka landlording. Dave responded by saying he generally was against prenups because if you aren't willing to unify all your finances and wealth then you aren't really serious about marriage. However, he then said for this guy maybe it made sense because he thought prenups were okay as a defense against crazy mooching relatives who try to start poo poo once they realize someone had money. Like he seriously thought that there was gonna be some sleezy uncle Eddie wormtounging in the caller's wife's ear once they found out he had money, and a prenup was a magical defense against that.

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