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Murgos posted:The constitution provides one method to exclude someone who is otherwise eligible from running for president. The timeline on this possible outcome is too long to preclude a run for 2024. Only gag orders and contempt charges can undermine his ability to campaign.
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Donald J Trump, noted believer in obeying courts. Good loving luck with gag orders and contempt orders. Do they involve armed personnel bodily hauling him off and locking him in a cell where he is physically incapable of accessing his phone? Until they do he's gonna shitpost whatever he wants.
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Apr 6, 2023 04:12
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I can see him poo poo posting his way into jail on contempt charges. He's already basically admitted to most of the charges via social media and Fox.
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Apr 6, 2023 04:15
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bird food bathtub posted:Donald J Trump, noted believer in obeying courts. Yes. If fines don't shut him up, 30 days in jail are an option.
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Apr 6, 2023 05:00
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Yeah, i absolutely believe this court could order him locked up, or even kept offline. And i believe he will quickly exhibit exactly the sort of behavior that will lead to that reality.
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Apr 6, 2023 05:02
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Charlz Guybon posted:Yes. If fines don't shut him up, 30 days in jail are an option. They didn't do it to Roger Stone when he wouldn't stop posting, so I doubt they'll put Trump in jail for 30 days. Even though they should.
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Apr 6, 2023 05:15
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Angry_Ed posted:They didn't do it to Roger Stone when he wouldn't stop posting, so I doubt they'll put Trump in jail for 30 days. Also, though... trumps experience is that he gets Away with everything. Stone getting away with it only builds on trumps false confidence about this. He has no advantage in that courtroom. Attacking the judge and prosecutor is not going to play well for him.
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Apr 6, 2023 06:07
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Murgos posted:You are factually incorrect. I didn't know this. Thanks!
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Apr 6, 2023 06:42
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When some guy on Twitter talked about how he had to move his family out of San Francisco because of all the violent crime, I pointed out that violent crime has overall been going down since the 70s and 80s. In response he posts a link to this insane screed which screams pure projection  quote:Like many of us, I have an otherwise intelligent friend, who is an incurable leftist. In this essay, I try to win him over by reason and also suggestion, showing that a number of liberal influencers — Matt Taibbi, Alan Dershowitz, David Mamet, Bill Maher — have either completed or begun a transformation away from the woke left and toward a more classically liberal position. In a way it's kind of a shame; I'm not expecting chuds to be consistent in their sincere beliefs at all (after all we're all 'hypocrites' under a strong enough lens) but at least it is their sincere feelings on the matter. Conservatism is always about going on your gut instinct and being an individual, but people like this butt job seem to cede all that agency in their own goddamn arguments
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Apr 6, 2023 12:42
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It’s really telling that this guy chooses to spend his time thinking about trans kids and the 1619 project, two things that have absolutely no impact on his life or experience. He’s probably been listening to talk radio since 1996.
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Apr 6, 2023 13:07
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Somewhere in paragraph...2? 3? of that garble, I became convinced that "Lenny" is a Scott Adams sockpuppet. No idea why. Surely dilbertman's ego wouldn't let him use any other name but his own, and there wasn't a single reference to his mastery of hypnotism in there. (...I think. I kind of blacked out at one point. )
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Apr 6, 2023 13:22
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quote:Like many of us, I have an otherwise intelligent friend, who is an incurable leftist. In this essay, I try to win him over by reason and also suggestion, showing that a number of liberal influencers — Matt Taibbi, Alan Dershowitz, David Mamet, Bill Maher — have either completed or begun a transformation away from the woke left and toward a more classically liberal position. A metaphorical Mount Rushmore of poo poo right there. It almost feels like parody.
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Apr 6, 2023 14:03
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What I really hate is the fuckwits who are like you can’t change biology! All you cells are one thing and you can do nothing to fix it! Well all your cells and biology make you diabetic better not do anything to fix it. Your vision sucks? No glasses for you that’s changing your biology. Teeth are all jacked up? No braces for you. Going bald? Scoliosis? Conjoined twin? Need a pacemaker Etc… Just absolutely gently caress off.
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Apr 6, 2023 14:11
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Lol the author of that has two separate articles about how US Olympic athletics aren't fuckable enough and how it proves that America has fallen The Olympic competition everyone notices but few discuss quote:As the Olympics build to their climax and rivet the attention of Americans, as a red-blooded male, I can't help but notice that our team is being significantly outclassed by their Russians counterparts in one obvious but unmentionable category: feminine beauty. How the Progressive Left Hollowed Out Our Olympic Team quote:Readers of American Thinker are well aware of the changes Vladimir Putin has instituted in the Russian Federation as he seeks to pull his country out from the spiritual, cultural and economic devastation of 70 plus years of communism.
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Apr 6, 2023 14:11
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Angry_Ed posted:A metaphorical Mount Rushmore of poo poo right there. It almost feels like parody. lol holy poo poo. That one is so bad I had to triple take that they think right wing propagandists are left wing/becoming left wing. seriously 
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Apr 6, 2023 14:11
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I AM GRANDO posted:It’s really telling that this guy chooses to spend his time thinking about trans kids and the 1619 project, two things that have absolutely no impact on his life or experience. He’s probably been listening to talk radio since 1996. It's propping up a couple strawmen for them to tear down. The trans thing is to frame the left as delusional and denying reality. The 1619 project got seen as revisionist history that chuds believe got debunked anyway. The rent can be summarized as "The left are delusional liars, after all look at this craaaazy stuff they believe!"
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Apr 6, 2023 14:44
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Piell posted:Lol the author of that has two separate articles about how US Olympic athletics aren't fuckable enough and how it proves that America has fallen 
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Apr 6, 2023 17:35
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Yes, drat that politically correct Marxist west, where women are never under any pressure to be attractive, and in fact are under pressure to be unattractive. This is totally a real thing!
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Apr 6, 2023 18:33
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How can any society survive without their Olympic athletes, armed forces, cartoons and candies being totally fuckable? Do we want to repeat the mistakes of the Bronze Age collapse, when global trade evaporated after they put uggos on the coins
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Apr 6, 2023 20:10
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if there is one thing the internet has taught me, it's that whatever kind of body you got, it's somebody's preferred flavor
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Apr 6, 2023 20:46
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arent Olympic villages imfamous for causing upticks in std and meds to treat stds? (though this might mostly be the fans, journos, and support staff having fun. )
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Apr 6, 2023 21:02
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Ambitious Spider posted:What I really hate is the fuckwits who are like you can’t change biology! All you cells are one thing and you can do nothing to fix it! I've tried dozens of times to try to engage those people on Actual Biology(intersex, phenotypes, SRY, etc) and they never, ever are willing to do it.
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Apr 6, 2023 21:06
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PhazonLink posted:arent Olympic villages imfamous for causing upticks in std and meds to treat stds? (though this might mostly be the fans, journos, and support staff having fun. )
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Apr 6, 2023 21:13
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PhazonLink posted:arent Olympic villages imfamous for causing upticks in std and meds to treat stds? (though this might mostly be the fans, journos, and support staff having fun. ) They are known for going through tons and tons of condoms, but that might just be an urban legend turned meme at this point.
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PhazonLink posted:arent Olympic villages imfamous for causing upticks in std and meds to treat stds? (though this might mostly be the fans, journos, and support staff having fun. ) Allegedly they hand out condoms by the bucketload, because when your event is over you're amped up and looking for stress relief, and surrounded by people in excellent physical shape, and nature takes its course. A link: https://www.espn.com/olympics/summer/2012/story/_/id/8133052/athletes-spill-details-dirty-secrets-olympic-village-espn-magazine Lemniscate Blue fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Apr 6, 2023 |
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Apr 6, 2023 21:21
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Jaxyon posted:I've tried dozens of times to try to engage those people on Actual Biology(intersex, phenotypes, SRY, etc) and they never, ever are willing to do it. The few times I've tried this with conservatives I know or have to deal with they wrote me off as loony liberal leftie that just doesn't get facts and logic. There are two genders and you're a brainwashed fool falling for the lies if you point out anything different. Absolute brick wall. Nothing penetrates. At all. Modern genetics, ancient historical depictions, present day societies. Nothing. It's all wrong. There are two genders and gently caress you if you try to say anything else.
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Apr 6, 2023 21:24
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bird food bathtub posted:The few times I've tried this with conservatives I know or have to deal with they wrote me off as loony liberal leftie that just doesn't get facts and logic. There are two genders and you're a brainwashed fool falling for the lies if you point out anything different. Absolute brick wall. Nothing penetrates. At all. Modern genetics, ancient historical depictions, present day societies. Nothing. It's all wrong. There are two genders and gently caress you if you try to say anything else. The only way I've been able to get them to engage in good faith is to point out intersex people and ask if they're so sure of the 'facts', then what gender is someone with both sets of sex organs. It at least gets them thinking and educates them on the fact that bodies aren't always physically perfect, and that gender doesn't always match sex. The unreasonable ones still just put it out of their minds and stick to their predefined belief, sadly.
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Apr 6, 2023 21:31
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LloydDobler posted:The only way I've been able to get them to engage in good faith is to point out intersex people and ask if they're so sure of the 'facts', then what gender is someone with both sets of sex organs. It at least gets them thinking and educates them on the fact that bodies aren't always physically perfect, and that gender doesn't always match sex. Yeah, the existence of intersex individuals problematizes the gender-biological sex construct and I've not seen any preemptive blocking framing on that line of argument.
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Apr 6, 2023 21:32
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notwithoutmyanus posted:lol holy poo poo. That one is so bad I had to triple take that they think right wing propagandists are left wing/becoming left wing. seriously The opposite. They're saying that people who were lefties are now becoming more right wing ("classically liberal" means conservative). Which is true. Maher, the Dersh and Taibbi all used to be somewhat liberal but they've gone all in on eating up right wing propaganda and spreading it themselves (no idea who David Mamet is so I can't comment on him). Discendo Vox posted:Yeah, the existence of intersex individuals problematizes the gender-biological sex construct and I've not seen any preemptive blocking framing on that line of argument. The closest I've seen is to say that "This is a very small number of people born, they don't disprove the rule. Besides only one set of genitals is functional anyway so the one that is is what they are."
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Twelve by Pies posted:The closest I've seen is to say that "This is a very small number of people born, they don't disprove the rule. Besides only one set of genitals is functional anyway so the one that is is what they are." so it's based on phenotype, not genetics?
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Discendo Vox posted:Yeah, the existence of intersex individuals problematizes the gender-biological sex construct and I've not seen any preemptive blocking framing on that line of argument. There is a certain line of argument somewhat common among TERFs where they insist that any intersex conditions should all be called Disorders of Sex Development (often with some concern-trolling line like "actually 'intersex' is an offensive term"), and that as such they're merely medical problems to be corrected to conform to the
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yeah intersex doesn't even get anywhere, they'll just say "exceptions don't disprove the rule"
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I think it's a pretty effective crowbar because you can then get into their need to make decisions about assigning gender to even perform the "corrective" action.
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Twelve by Pies posted:(no idea who David Mamet is so I can't comment on him). David Mamet is one of the most celebrated playwrights in modern American drama (you know Glengarry Glen Ross? That's him). He has also, since about 2008, become a massive prick. He's voiced support for Romney in '12, argued against gun control, decried those who kneel for the national anthem, parroted the stolen-election lie, spoken out in support of the Don't Say Gay bill, and accused teachers in general of pedophilia. What this screed's author is probably referring to is an essay Mamet wrote in the Village Voice in '08 called "Why I am No Longer a Brain Dead Liberal." So, bit of a heel turn there. e: Oh, and his crimes against humanity also include co-writing the screenplay for Hannibal, for whatever that's worth. Dr. Gargunza fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Apr 6, 2023 |
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Apr 6, 2023 22:02
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Ambitious Spider posted:Well all your cells and biology make you diabetic better not do anything to fix it. Your vision sucks? No glasses for you that’s changing your biology. Teeth are all jacked up? No braces for you. Going bald? Scoliosis? Conjoined twin? Need a pacemaker Etc… No Federal funding for Viagra!
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Dr. Gargunza posted:David Mamet is one of the most celebrated playwrights in modern American drama (you know Glengarry Glen Ross? That's him). He has also, since about 2008, become a massive prick. He's voiced support for Romney in '12, argued against gun control, decried those who kneel for the national anthem, parroted the stolen-election lie, spoken out in support of the Don't Say Gay bill, and accused teachers in general of pedophilia. What this screed's author is probably referring to is an essay Mamet wrote in the Village Voice in '08 called "Why I am No Longer a Brain Dead Liberal." The man who wrote Glengarry Glen Ross is an rear end in a top hat? Mmmm I'm having trouble seeing it...
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Jaxyon posted:yeah intersex doesn't even get anywhere, they'll just say "exceptions don't disprove the rule" And much like Detransitioners, all it takes is a few loud intersex people on Twitter to agree with them for them to act like the matter is settled. I have seen two of them like this, one identifying as a straight woman and the other as a gay man, and both are virulently transphohic and accuse the LGBT community of using them as props for their arguments. So when you bring up intersex people they'll link examples like these.
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mllaneza posted:No Federal funding for Viagra! Not just no Federal funding, illegal. Balding treatments and testosterone mills too, every client straight to jail! Being bald and impotent is part of God's plan for your aging, the state shall come down harshly on any attempts to subvert His will.
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Mechanical Ape posted:How can any society survive without their Olympic athletes, armed forces, cartoons and candies being totally fuckable? This actually feeds into their Great Replacement and depopulation conspiracy theories. The way it works is: -Je... I mean Marxists infiltrate institutions of higher learning and change history to say that beautiful people are actually bad. -Frankfurt School educated Hollyweird Elites start casting uggos in their films and shows and use the media to praise inferior sloped skull shapes over more desirable types. -People who like women with soft fair skin and big boobs are bullied into silence and if you say anything positive about a conventionally attractive woman's body then you get charged with First Degree Thought Rape by the Woke Police. -The people praising diversity and imperfections don't actually believe any of it, they're secretly jealous and bitter they are too lazy to attain the Perfect Aryan body which is why they gotta tear it down. -None of the dirty ugly leftists are actually sexually attracted to each other. If they do have sex it is out of desperation. And so they normalize gross sex stuff like eating rear end and docking their dicks together and other weird poo poo because it's all they can stand. Nobody really wants to have sex them, that's why trans people keep pressuring cis people into having sex with them, they're not going to settle with another unattractive person deluded into thinking they are a pretty girl. -And so there are less and less beautiful people which means less people loving which means less beautiful people which means more ugly people which means beautiful people die out and it's just geriatric uggos eating their asses out until the heat death of the universe. Pretty sure all this was somewhere in Saul Alynsky's footnotes.
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Panfilo posted:I feel this is a good example of what Bigger Boat was talking about, that the right just has this word salad of talking points. All the things this nut says are reactionary talking points, he doesn't seem to have any individual options or nuance to his thoughts, it's just this vending machine unloading a hopper of prepackaged ideology. Yeah, this is a good example of what I was ranting about. Surprised your friend didn't work in the word "Chicago" in there, which I guess they like to use for the Obama implications. And nothing the guy wrote addresses your question or the idea of rising violent crime in SF at all. Somehow, it loops all around to trans people, slavery, communism, freedom, healthcare and Russia for no real reason. It's the attrition thing I mentioned. You're supposed to research, rebut, and draw conclusions about all these things that have zero to do with you saying "actually, violent crime in SF is _____________". It's a textbook example of how RWM works. Word association, repetition, obfuscation, whataboutism and deflection. With a heavy dose of accusing your opponent of doing exactly what you're doing. There were a lot of Ben Shapiro videos posted here a while back where "Shapiro Owns Liberals at College Campus" where he does nothing of the sort but, more, just never shuts the gently caress up and spews so much nonsensical unrelated bullshit that when the debate opponent has their turn, they're speechless, can't unpack all that bile and don't even know where to start. The other guy is just sitting there going what the gently caress are you talking about so that makes him "owned"
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