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Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


tokin opposition posted:

I'd love to be able to put down robopsychiatrist one of these days, I wanted to grow up to be just like Susan Calvin as a kid

I like the cut of your jib. A worthy goal.


As a car nerd as well as a computer toucher, this both horrifies and delights me.

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Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

I have a question for yall IT nerds.


How does the FBI find actual good IT nerds to work for them? Everytime I've seen job postings for IT or Cybersec nerds for the FBI, you have to be atleast 23, with a bachelors degree, are able to pass a physical fitness test*, and are expected to work a 50 hour work week and be on call. I get being desperate for a job, but what 24 year old computer toucher with a bachelors degree is gonna apply for that?

* Standards look to be over something like, 38 situps in a minute, a 54 second 300 meter sprint, 30 pushups, 2 pull ups, and a 12 minute mile. Which isn't so bad, but if you need a computer toucher why instantly disqualify the cheeto dusted fingers of goons?

Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Apr 5, 2023

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


Defenestrategy posted:

I have a question for yall IT nerds.


How does the FBI find actual good IT nerds to work for them? Everytime I've seen job postings for IT or Cybersec nerds for the FBI, you have to be atleast 23, with a bachelors degree, are able to pass a physical fitness test*, and are expected to work a 50 hour work week and be on call. I get being desperate for a job, but what 24 year old computer toucher with a bachelors degree is gonna apply for that?

The honor and pride of working for your country?

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

jaegerx posted:

The honor and pride of working for your country?

Have you SEEN this country lately?

Cyks
Mar 17, 2008

The trenches of IT can scar a muppet for life
Ex military who got an online degree while finishing up there 3-4yr enlistment will jump all over that.

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.


Defenestrategy posted:

I have a question for yall IT nerds.


How does the FBI find actual good IT nerds to work for them? Everytime I've seen job postings for IT or Cybersec nerds for the FBI, you have to be atleast 23, with a bachelors degree, are able to pass a physical fitness test*, and are expected to work a 50 hour work week and be on call. I get being desperate for a job, but what 24 year old computer toucher with a bachelors degree is gonna apply for that?

* Standards look to be over something like, 38 situps in a minute, a 54 second 300 meter sprint, 30 pushups, 2 pull ups, and a 12 minute mile. Which isn't so bad, but if you need a computer toucher why instantly disqualify the cheeto dusted fingers of goons?

half the people who work for the fbi are mormon. i would ask them

Soylent Majority
Jul 13, 2020

Dune 2: Chicks At The Same Time

Cyber Punk 90210 posted:

Hey everyone, question for the thread

So to set the scene, I got a contract as an onsite support at a company that makes software most of you have heard of and a lot of you probably use. I'm also in NYC (what I'm saying is they have money)

They asked me yesterday if I'd be interested in transitioning to their White Glove IT group after my contract is up because a lot of Executives changed their home office from other regions to this one.

Right now I'm on contract for $85k a year and my contract is up in 3 months.

My question is, since it looks like I'm going to be on the VIP team when I transition to FTE, how much money should I ask for?

How big we talkin? If you’re at a big place you can make some solid bank - I’ve been doing executive computer janitoring for gently caress it’s 10-15 years now for a couple fortune 100ish cos. What’s the bennies and incentive comp is going to be a big xfactor but you can get well into figgieland being the guy who can tell the cmo to reboot his loving laptop.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Cyber Punk 90210 posted:

Hey everyone, question for the thread

So to set the scene, I got a contract as an onsite support at a company that makes software most of you have heard of and a lot of you probably use. I'm also in NYC (what I'm saying is they have money)

They asked me yesterday if I'd be interested in transitioning to their White Glove IT group after my contract is up because a lot of Executives changed their home office from other regions to this one.

Right now I'm on contract for $85k a year and my contract is up in 3 months.

My question is, since it looks like I'm going to be on the VIP team when I transition to FTE, how much money should I ask for?

I’d ask for 120 and settle for 100-110. And then pivot into something that doesn’t have to deal with executives.


Also rip me getting called in after hours when you’re not oncall. Not a big problem, one of my teammates fixed it like 10min after I joined, but the way my company handles incidents just kills me. It doesn’t publish incidents as they happen within engineering (it’s “highly confidential” that a redis connection pool got maxed you see), it tends to only declare incidents if a manager’s manager notices it happening, and we’re bad at learning lessons from them because nobody knows about them. Even within incidents, there is rarely a decision log, there’s no dedicated incident manager, no list of what we know and what we don’t. We even have a quote unquote “incident manager” lady who does… none of that apparently.

My first engineering company had an incidents slack channel open to engineering (security incidents excluded), a bot that set up the slack channel and zoom room, and asked that two specific people act as the incident manager and engineering lead on a given incident and trade off as time goes on. The incident manager does the OODA loop, the dev lead handles the technical resources. It was an amazing system. I really quite miss it!

The Iron Rose fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Apr 6, 2023

Soylent Majority
Jul 13, 2020

Dune 2: Chicks At The Same Time

The Iron Rose posted:

I’d ask for 120 and settle for 100-110. And then pivot into something that doesn’t have to deal with executives.


If they wasn’t talking nyc that’d be one thing, but that’s Midwest money.

Cyber Punk 90210
Jan 7, 2004

The War Has Changed

Soylent Majority posted:

How big we talkin? If you’re at a big place you can make some solid bank - I’ve been doing executive computer janitoring for gently caress it’s 10-15 years now for a couple fortune 100ish cos. What’s the bennies and incentive comp is going to be a big xfactor but you can get well into figgieland being the guy who can tell the cmo to reboot his loving laptop.

the company is flirting with the 100's

Soylent Majority posted:

If they wasn’t talking nyc that’d be one thing, but that’s Midwest money.

They might be in Hudson Yards :mildpanic:

Jiro
Jan 13, 2004

So I have an interview at noon tomorrow with PWC, over something called an "Cyber Managed Services - Threat Detection and Response - Specialist".

After the poo poo show that was the county job interview, was not hired for thankfully, this seems to be more my beginner speed. Judging from the job description's fancy words seems like it could be beefier IT support reporting to the SOC. It also sounds like contract work, which also puts me on edge. But if the pay is right I would do it if it can give me real world experience.

Example of what the posting stated: "Security Operations Center (SOC) experience
Networking (including the OSI Model, TCP/IP, DNS, HTTP, SMTP), System Administration, and Security Architecture;
Incident Response Frameworks and Handling Procedures;
Scripting language skills in Python or PowerShell;
Vulnerability management and penetration testing of systems, applications, and networks;
Information security, compliance, assurance, and/or other security best practices and principles; and,
Windows, Linux operating systems logs."

I'm currently brushing up on OSI basics and TCP/IP and DNS and SMTP stuff. Python and Powershell is a whole other story, but everything else I'm pretty comfortable with in knowledge. Required Education was just a HS Diploma though. That's the only thing that kinda throws me off as far as judging what to expect if pay comes up. Hope it turns out well. Sorry for the long post.

CloFan
Nov 6, 2004

Good luck! It sounds entry level so that's definitely a wishlist, don't worry if you can't speak to all the things there

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


That doesn’t sound entry level to me at all.

Vile_Nihlist666
Jan 15, 2009

God isn't watching you... but I am!
Just want to say, performing both residential in-house IT and commercial MSP tasks in a two technician shop as the junior tech for $35K is really frustrating. Especially when the owner also keeps dropping money on 13 year old Apple machines in various states of disrepair and gives me the sole task of reviving them in between tickets so he can attempt to sell them for $300-$500.

I am allowed to run Manjaro instead of Windows on my main machine, though, so that's nice.

Vile_Nihlist666 fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Apr 6, 2023

Jiro
Jan 13, 2004

Vile_Nihlist666 posted:

Just want to say, performing both residential in-house IT and commercial MSP tasks in a two technician shop as the junior tech for $35K is really frustrating. Especially when the owner also keeps dropping money on 13 year old Apple machines in various states of disrepair and gives me the sole task of reviving them in between tickets so he can attempt to sell them for $300-$500.

The gently caress? Does he expect you to make Hackintoshes just.....work or something? And on the cheap? Are these old rear end Macbooks or god forbid early iMacs that were circa 2009 all in one's with the LED monitors built in?

Vile_Nihlist666
Jan 15, 2009

God isn't watching you... but I am!

Jiro posted:

The gently caress? Does he expect you to make Hackintoshes just.....work or something? And on the cheap? Are these old rear end Macbooks or god forbid early iMacs that were circa 2009 all in one's with the LED monitors built in?

Yes.

iMacs, Minis, Macbooks, all from 2007-2014, primarily. Haven't counted but AT LEAST 100, all told, and he keeps adding more.

Basically salvaging parts from the poo poo to rescue others. No SSDs to be installed though, except for the flat-screen 27 inch models which he thinks are special... even though they are all 2012-2014.


A photo before he basically doubled this with minis:

And that's just the storage room. He has stuff offsite, in his office, and in the operation manager's office.

Vile_Nihlist666 fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Apr 6, 2023

johnny park
Sep 15, 2009

maybe he should fix them himself. jesus

Vile_Nihlist666
Jan 15, 2009

God isn't watching you... but I am!

johnny park posted:

maybe he should fix them himself. jesus

I wish. We're not even an Apple shop! But he seems to think Apple=sales for some reason. He's super out of the loop, but he did this without consulting the rest of us.

Keep in mind, I actually cleared that whole shelf in that picture, and he predictably hasn't sold poo poo. Yet he keeps bringing poo poo in.

Vile_Nihlist666 fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Apr 6, 2023

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


I pity anyone who spends $500 on an Intel Mac.

I'm pretty sure Apple is going to drop OS support for them like a hot rock in the next year.

Vile_Nihlist666
Jan 15, 2009

God isn't watching you... but I am!
Someone is always dense enough. But there's not as many as he thinks are out there.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


Do you work for the angry guy in nyc on YouTube?

Vile_Nihlist666
Jan 15, 2009

God isn't watching you... but I am!
Can't say I'm familiar with who you're referring to.

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Vile_Nihlist666 posted:

Can't say I'm familiar with who you're referring to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Rossmann

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


If someone’s buying a decade-old iMac they deserve what they get really

Jiro
Jan 13, 2004

I worked for Apple EMEA support back in '09-'10 those 1st gen iMacs with the at the time fancy big screen were notorious for having yellowed screens or clusters of dead pixels. Was a nightmare in getting them serviced and or having the screens replaced.

My condolences to you.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




I worked as an Apple certified repair tech from 2014-2018 and have opened a bunch of iMacs from that era. My advice?

:sever:

:getout:

Vile_Nihlist666
Jan 15, 2009

God isn't watching you... but I am!

Oh, THAT dude. No, but I have definitely seen his videos before.

Vile_Nihlist666
Jan 15, 2009

God isn't watching you... but I am!
Here's the status as of 7:03am. Not sure where they moved the 4 foot tall stack of minis to. There were more than the ones pictured here.















Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


Defenestrategy posted:

I have a question for yall IT nerds.


How does the FBI find actual good IT nerds to work for them? Everytime I've seen job postings for IT or Cybersec nerds for the FBI, you have to be atleast 23, with a bachelors degree, are able to pass a physical fitness test*, and are expected to work a 50 hour work week and be on call. I get being desperate for a job, but what 24 year old computer toucher with a bachelors degree is gonna apply for that?

* Standards look to be over something like, 38 situps in a minute, a 54 second 300 meter sprint, 30 pushups, 2 pull ups, and a 12 minute mile. Which isn't so bad, but if you need a computer toucher why instantly disqualify the cheeto dusted fingers of goons?

They struggle to fill IT and tech analyst roles because of this. Well that, and the drug screen for marijuana. Comey said as much a few years back.

But also what Big Fluffy Dog said, a lot of mormons. Oh and a lot of people who get out of the military, get their bachelors, and then go in for a few years before moving onto contracting or something without insane requirements.


Have a panel interview, or like 4 mini interviews later on today for an entry level IT role. Hoping it's more just "Hey so we'd be working together, do you suck?" and not 4x "HEY TELL ME ABOUT A TIME YOU WERE A BAD ENOUGH DUDE TO RESCUE THE PRESIDENT? IN STAR FORMAT PLEASE." Because dear lord those are exhausting.

Handsome Ralph fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Apr 6, 2023

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.


Handsome Ralph posted:

They struggle to fill IT and tech analyst roles because of this. Well that, and the drug screen for marijuana. Comey said as much a few years back.

But also what Big Fluffy Dog said, a lot of mormons. Oh and a lot of people who get out of the military, get their bachelors, and then go in for a few years before moving onto contracting or something without insane requirements.


Have a panel interview, or like 4 mini interviews later on today for an entry level IT role. Hoping it's more just "Hey so we'd be working together, do you suck?" and not 4x "HEY TELL ME ABOUT A TIME YOU WERE A BAD ENOUGH DUDE TO RESCUE THE PRESIDENT? IN STAR FORMAT PLEASE." Because dear lord those are exhausting.

On severl occasions I voted for the non-incumbent while the president was running for re-election. This saved him by sparing him the insane amounts of stress the president gets every day. Thereby adding many years to the President's life.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006


On multiple occasions, I have successfully engaged multiple terrorist / non-state-actor threats in close quarters battle, blocking hostile mission objectives and/or protecting US or allied security assets*.


* In airsoft.

Jiro
Jan 13, 2004

Zorak of Michigan posted:

On multiple occasions, I have successfully engaged multiple terrorist / non-state-actor threats in close quarters battle, blocking hostile mission objectives and/or protecting US or allied security assets*.


* In Metal Gear Solid 1, 2, and 3.

You might even think I'm a Big Boss. :dukedog:

Edit: Initial interview with PriceWaterhouse Coopers went really well, hopefully hear back not long after the Easter holiday. At the very least I'd possibly be making 8k more than what I made previously. And I'm really really excited at the prospect of working some Blue Team stuff for entry level. Hopefully I hear back with good news.

Jiro fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Apr 6, 2023

Cyks
Mar 17, 2008

The trenches of IT can scar a muppet for life
Pushing out 8 months of windows updates to every computer and just going “huh that’s interesting” when anyone asks about it.

Feels good.

devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik

Cyks posted:

Pushing out 8 months of windows updates to every computer and just going “huh that’s interesting” when anyone asks about it.

Feels good.

When I joined this place six years ago, they had only been doing critical windows security patches, for years. I don’t even remember how many patches they needed to catch up on, but it took something like five months of releasing big chunks of them before every server was caught up.

Now, if it’s a released patch it goes. Lower environments Thursday after patch Tuesday, prod environment week and a half later.

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

just got the "feral hogs" version of shadow IT.

100-200 client pdf documents uploaded to shadypdfconvert.ru, every day.

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
We let users decide when to update and have to manually update parked laptops

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Our device management software is carefully engineered to pop an un-dismissable dialog at the most inconvenient times to force an OS update and reboot. Got a meeting in 10 minutes? get hosed, nerd.

Inner Light
Jan 2, 2020



Louis Rossmann moved away from NYC btw. I think his shop is in Texas now. He is also broken up with the long term gf he used to have.

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.


Cyks posted:

Pushing out 8 months of windows updates to every computer and just going “huh that’s interesting” when anyone asks about it.

Feels good.

Learning a lot about why some of the bugs people call me about happen through this thread.

JK I learned there’s a 50/50 chance the person calling mes lying about what’s going on like a week in

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Raymond T. Racing
Jun 11, 2019

I stopped watching Rossman when he pivoted from “this is cool board repair” to “right to repair, lawsuit, nyc government sucks”

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