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15 | 3.71% |
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ianmacdo posted:Its the tone deafness that gets me. Like when they report about China killing one of their billionaires. Like that's a bad thing that anyone should feel bad about? Its just crazy and tone deaf. our entire society and economy is designed to produce, protect, enrich, and flatter billionaires
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Apr 6, 2023 23:38
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CODChimera posted:Who would possibly leak that info and why? Anyone interested in ending the war, I guess. Continuing support when the situation is that bad and now there's proof, you would for all intents and purposes have to call a press conference and state that the policy is to fight to the last Ukrainian. It's no longer a winnable war, based on what's on the page.
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Apr 6, 2023 23:39
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bedpan posted:our entire society and economy is designed to produce, protect, enrich, and flatter billionaires its their society, they own it. why shouldn't it exist to service them?
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Apr 6, 2023 23:39
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https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1644067451444019200?s=20quote:RT reports from T-80 tank on Donbass frontline
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Apr 6, 2023 23:39
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Frosted Flake posted:I believe Australia had the same deal. If push comes to shove we can always deploy Army Reserve artillerymen and their mortars from WW2 
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Apr 6, 2023 23:40
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Delta-Wye posted:the op thickens
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Apr 6, 2023 23:40
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Or a hawk, pushing for direct NATO intervention to salvage the situation, or like Yom Kippur levels of aid to replenish the UAF.
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Apr 6, 2023 23:41
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Man, and I was worried there was going to be nothing to talk about for the next month.
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Apr 6, 2023 23:41
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oh my god lol
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Apr 6, 2023 23:41
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CODChimera posted:Who would possibly leak that info and why? Suppose your in one of those formations and don't want to go?
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Apr 6, 2023 23:41
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Frosted Flake posted:you would for all intents and purposes have to call a press conference and state that the policy is to fight to the last Ukrainian. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJvXqtYdJqk&t=107s 
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Apr 6, 2023 23:43
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Russia-linked deaths since the start of 2022 DOZENS of people in the Kremlin's orbit have died since the start of 2022 - how many of them have been killed by Vlad and his cronies? Leonid Shulman - January 30 - Gas boss - Found dead in his bathroom with suicide note Igor Nosov - February 8 - Former governor - Died after suffering an apparent stroke in Moscow Mikhail Watford - February 28 - Businessman - Found dead at his home in Surrey, UK - no evidence of crime found by cops Alexander Tyulakov - February 25 - Gas boss - Found dead in his garage in suspected suicide in St Petersburg Vasily Melnikov - March 23 - Medical firm boss - Stabbed to death along with his family in 'murder-suicide' in Nizhny Novgorod Vladislav Avayev - April 18 - Gas boss - Found dead with gun in his hand alongside wife and daughter in Moscow Sergei Protosenya - April 19 - Gas boss - Found hanged alongside his wife and daughter who died of axe wounds at villa in Lloret de Mar, Spain Andrei Krukovsky - May 2 - Gas boss - Fell down a cliff to his death in Sochi Alexander Subbotin - May 8 - Oil boss - Died of 'drug induced heart attack' during shamanic ritual in Moscow Dmitry Kovtun - June 4 - Ex-KGB agent linked to Litvinenko murder - Died in hospital from Covid in Moscow Toma Waynesky - June 18th - Billionaire linked to Russian political opposition - shot by a mugger after seeing Top Gun: Maverick in Moscow Marta Waynesky - June 18th - Philanthropist married to Toma Waynesky - also shot by a mugger in the same incident Dr Dmitry Kolker - July 2 - Laser scientist - Dies after being arrested for treason and being flown to Moscow Yuri Voronov - July 4 - Shipping chief - Shot dead in swimming pool in Leningrad Dan Rapoport - August 14 - Investor & Putin critic - Died after falling from a 9-story high rise in Washington DC Darya Dugina - August 20 - Daughter of 'Putin's Rasputin' - Died in car bombing in Moscow Ravil Maganov - September 1 - Oil oligarch & Putin critic - Falls from balcony while smoking in 'suicide' Ivan Pechorin - September 10 - Gas boss - Found floating in the sea near Vladivostok Vladimir Sungorkin - September 14 - Editor of Putin's 'favourite newspaper' - Suddenly suffered stroke while on lunch and died in Khabarovsk Anatoly Gerashchenko - September 21 - Aviation boss - Falls down "several" flights of stars and dies Pavel Pchelnikov - September 28 - Railway exec - Found shot dead on his balcony in Moscow Nikolay Petrunin - October 12 - Politician - Died from complications of Covid Nikolai Mushegian - October 28 - Crypto boss - Drowned in swimming pool in Puerto Rico, US Viktor Cherkesov - November 8 - Putin's spy mentor - Dies after 'serious illness' in St Petersburg Colonel Vadim Boyko - November 16 - Ukraine war mobilisation chief - Death ruled suicide despite being shot five times in Vladivostok Vyacheslav Taran - November 25 - Crypto billionaire - Killed in helicopter crash in clear weather near Monaco Vladimir Makei - November 26 - Belarusian foreign minister - Death ruled suicide by Minsk officials Grigory Kochenov - December 7 - Tech boss - Fell to his death as police searched his flat in Nizhny Novgorod Dmitriy Zelenov - December 9 - Real estate tycoon - Dies after hitting his head after falling down stairs in Antibes, France Vladimir Budanov - December 22 - 'Companion' of Pavel Antov - Found dead in his hotel room in Odisha, India - Pavel Antov - December 24 - Politician and businessman - Found dead in a pool of blood at his hotel just days after his friend Bidenov Alexander Buzakov - December 24 - Shipyard chief - Died after attending unveiling a new submarine - no cause of death General Alexei Maslov - December 25 - Tank firm boss - Suddenly fell ill and dies after Putin cancelled visit to factory in Uralvagonzavod Vladimir Nesterov - December 28 - Disgraced rocket engineer - Cause of death undisclosed in Russia Magomed Abdulayev - January 6 - Former regional leader - Mown down by car in Makhachkala Dmitry Pawochka - January 26 - Space boss - Burned alive in his apartment in Moscow Major General Vladimir Makarov - February 14 - Police chief - Found shot dead in 'suicide' at his apartment in Moscow Marina Yankina - February 16 - Defence official - Found dead after falling from window of 16-storey high rise in St Petersburg Viatcheslav Rovneiko - February 22 - Oil boss - Found unconcious at his home in Moscow Andrey Botikov - March 3 - Sputnik V scientist - Strangled to death at his home in MoscowSergey Grishin - March 6 - 'Scarface' oligarch - Dies in hospital of sepsis in Moscow
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Apr 6, 2023 23:45
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Hahahaha, I mean hey, good for Ukraine if those plans are real and got leaked, I guess. Gives them a chance to rethink things.
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Apr 6, 2023 23:47
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Some Guy TT posted:Vladislav Avayev - April 18 - Gas boss - Found dead with gun in his hand alongside wife and daughter in Moscow god drat that dude's hand must be gigantic
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Apr 6, 2023 23:47
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step 1: release fake plans step 2: plant fake nytimes story step 3: ????? idk why yall think for a half second anything in the nytimes is legit
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Apr 6, 2023 23:48
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I cannot comprehend why those plans would only be secret. it makes me wonder if this is a deliberate leak of misinformation. but then, if you were making it up, you would definitely say top secret. also arguing against it being a deliberate leak: it undermines a lot of the narratives about Ukrainians mowing down endless waves of Untermenschen, and maintaining those narratives is the most important tactical consideration for the west.
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Apr 6, 2023 23:49
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Best Friends posted:I cannot comprehend why those plans would only be secret. it makes me wonder if this is a deliberate leak of misinformation. but then, if you were making it up, you would definitely say top secret. also arguing against it being a deliberate leak: it undermines a lot of the narratives about Ukrainians mowing down endless waves of Untermenschen, and maintaining those narratives is the most important tactical consideration for the west. That’s what I was saying. Like the meteorology stuff maybe but one of those listed sorties by NATO aircraft in the next 24 hr which the White House is confirming was accurate. Somebody fumbled hard. Maybe someone was bitching on a Ukrainian discord or telegram and it was leaked from there?
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Apr 6, 2023 23:51
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anyone checked the warthunder forums
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Apr 6, 2023 23:53
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posting for clout gone too far.
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Apr 6, 2023 23:54
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came here to post this but lol at the NYT being the ones to confirm it
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Apr 6, 2023 23:55
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Wasn’t there allegedly a lot of disagreement between Ukrainian Army Staff and the President’s Office before? It would not be unreasonable if someone saw the plan for the total destruction of their army and thought maybe the public freaking out plus western backers getting cold feet might cause Zelensky to back down?
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Apr 6, 2023 23:55
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Frosted Flake posted:Last throw of the dice, death ride, and then the 3 textbook examples of the same, apparently about to be joined by a fourth. ah yes, of course. how silly of me 
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Apr 6, 2023 23:55
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lollontee posted:ah yes, of course. how silly of me Obviously the Ukrainian General staff is familiar with it too, down to the timing - 2/3 were in March.
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Apr 6, 2023 23:57
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lmao
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Apr 6, 2023 23:57
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Best Friends posted:I cannot comprehend why those plans would only be secret. it makes me wonder if this is a deliberate leak of misinformation. but then, if you were making it up, you would definitely say top secret. also arguing against it being a deliberate leak: it undermines a lot of the narratives about Ukrainians mowing down endless waves of Untermenschen, and maintaining those narratives is the most important tactical consideration for the west. Not my field, but I guess the level of secrecy can't be higher than what the people who need to read the documents are allowed to see?
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Apr 6, 2023 23:57
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Delta-Wye posted:step 1: release fake plans The 11th dimensional chess move of saying the ukranian army is doing great mowing down orcs and then leaking that actually ukraine is suffering like 5 KiA for every russian despite outnumbering them and providing them all this equipment
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Apr 7, 2023 00:01
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genericnick posted:Not my field, but I guess the level of secrecy can't be higher than what the people who need to read the documents are allowed to see? Right. Need To Know. But anyone who would see and handle this really ought to, unless lol it’s because the Ukrainians on the distribution list would not be eligible for TS, like if they had financial assets in foreign countries, gambling debts, money problems, etc. A Canadian Colonel’s TS was unquestionable but did we want to share the same level of information with his ANA counterpart? If you treat him as holding a Secret, then at least some of the company jewels are safe. Just spitballing
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Apr 7, 2023 00:01
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the tank has a hat
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Apr 7, 2023 00:02
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HiroProtagonist posted:came here to post this but lol at the NYT being the ones to confirm it it turns out after using the ss minnow to plant the charges on the nordstream, gilligan took some cell phone pics of the nato plans and accidently uploaded them to telegram
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Apr 7, 2023 00:02
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This is much funnier than the Pentagon Papers and makes their attacks on Hersh a bit funnier too
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Apr 7, 2023 00:03
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Frosted Flake posted:a Letzter Würfelwurf, a Todesfahrt. Michael, Watch am Rhein, Unternehmen Frühlingserwachen
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Apr 7, 2023 00:04
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the spring awakening operation ran into a herd of SU-100s.
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Apr 7, 2023 00:05
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Cao Ni Ma posted:The 11th dimensional chess move of saying the ukranian army is doing great mowing down orcs and then leaking that actually ukraine is suffering like 5 KiA for every russian despite outnumbering them and providing them all this equipment if they are intended to confuse the russians, the plans aren't for domestic consumption. if the russians need to buy into it, they need to see believable plans, right? they would know better if the plans were drafted by the ISW's fiction writers. for the domestic audience, you plant a bunch of idk, similar looking edits to muddy the waters? like this, perhaps? they don't have be believable themselves, they just have to add noise
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Apr 7, 2023 00:08
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im bothered that the top one shows ground vehicles lost for russia, but bottom one shows sams lost for ukraine bro thats not how you do comparisons, did the intern at isw make this slide wtf
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Apr 7, 2023 00:10
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Cue the yakety sax music.
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Apr 7, 2023 00:11
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CODChimera posted:Who would possibly leak that info and why? Some Ukrainian commander trying to get the offensive canceled cuz his son is on a front line unit and he knows it's gonna be a blood bath that doesn't achieve anything besides fertilize some fields would be the Tom Clancy novel plot so I'll say that.
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Apr 7, 2023 00:11
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the number of traitors and saboteurs seems to be getting outta control
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Apr 7, 2023 00:14
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oh it easter again happy easter putin 
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Apr 7, 2023 00:15
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lol welp
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I guess it’s nice to finally get some of the “real” numbers that behind the scenes people see
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