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There’s a good chance the average sicko who plays on MTGO and enjoys getting value from winning leagues/cashing in sets enjoys and cares about the game more than you.
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It is admittedly pretty nice that when you eventually get tired of mtgo being a pita sometimes you can actually get a good chunk of your money back. But it's honestly not a big deal either way, the rental services and access to good formats is the real nice part imo
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Apr 7, 2023 00:09
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reignonyourparade posted:It's dumb to require being able to cash out of Having Fun
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Apr 7, 2023 00:13
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Just a reminder that this whole discussion started because someone asked how to play MTGO and the first reply was someone telling him to play Arena instead lol. I’ll never understand what it is about MTGO that drives so many people crazy. It’s cool I can play mini tournaments for any format I want, basically whenever I want, against good players, and have a chance at making money back.
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Apr 7, 2023 00:20
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Last cube season I lost a wonderful, pulse pounding match purely because I was so rusty at the inputs that I timed out. Clearly mrgo should be burned to the ground.
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Apr 7, 2023 00:29
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Arena will always be inferior due to no true f6
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Apr 7, 2023 00:37
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MTGGoldfish made a YT video: https://youtu.be/bwiAnsuPTMk
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Apr 7, 2023 00:38
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What is true f6?
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Apr 7, 2023 00:42
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Khanstant posted:What is true f6? Not much, what's true f6 with you?
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Apr 7, 2023 00:43
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Khanstant posted:What is true f6? You could press f6 and no matter what, it would coast by every step, trigger or round of priority until the next upkeep. Arena cannot do this for whatever reason and it really bums me out.
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Apr 7, 2023 00:59
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With the free credit from the rental services you can play all the penny dreadful leagues and tournaments you want
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Apr 7, 2023 01:02
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ilmucche posted:With the free credit from the rental services you can play all the penny dreadful leagues and tournaments you want Oh dang the rental services give you credit to enter events now? Ok that might be enough to get me back in tbh, I sold out years ago because the rental services were expensive and you still had to buy entry to events/place well enough to roll them over
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Apr 7, 2023 01:05
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meanolmrcloud posted:You could press f6 and no matter what, it would coast by every step, trigger or round of priority until the next upkeep. Arena cannot do this for whatever reason and it really bums me out. Oh man that would be nice, I kept meaning to look up how to do this because I figured I had something set wrong since the pass turn button constantly stops and makes you do everything, is pressing that toggle any different than clicking to next phase?
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Apr 7, 2023 01:08
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Weird Pumpkin posted:Oh dang the rental services give you credit to enter events now?
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Apr 7, 2023 01:10
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Weird Pumpkin posted:Oh dang the rental services give you credit to enter events now? Nah, penny dreadful leagues and tourneys are all played through the free tournament practice room and tracked on a separate website. HootTheOwl posted:Penny dreadful isn't sanctioned, they're saying how most rental services have a "free" option for their most unplayable bulk. I think a cardhoarder has free bots that give you up to 26 cards or so I think it's 5 bucks free rental credit, which is enough to make a 75 for penny dreadful. At least that's what it was when I was messing around with the format
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Apr 7, 2023 01:14
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And the format rules for Penny Dreadful are literally "if it was unplayable bulk that you could buy for a penny on <specific date> then it's legal".
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Apr 7, 2023 01:14
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MTGO is the only place you can play the One True Format: Unrestricted Momir Basic
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Apr 7, 2023 01:27
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meanolmrcloud posted:You could press f6 and no matter what, it would coast by every step, trigger or round of priority until the next upkeep. Arena cannot do this for whatever reason and it really bums me out. I thought there was a way to do it on PC just not on phone
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Apr 7, 2023 01:47
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precision posted:I thought there was a way to do it on PC just not on phone It always stop at the end step, and it’ll also always ask you to respond to triggers, even with the space+enter shortcut. If I’m wrong about this I’d love to know
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Apr 7, 2023 01:52
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There used to be a combo deck on arena that was based around making so many triggers that your opponent couldn't click through all of them fast enough and it would skip their turn because of animations and such.
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Apr 7, 2023 02:28
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Well working at a games shop has finally taken its toll. I'm building a Commander deck. Commander is Grist and it's based around insects. Only problem is the store I work at is missing a lot of the bug cards I'd like to have. None of them are particularly expensive, just a pain I'll have to go out of my way to get them. I'm also going to have to buy some Jumpstart 2022 packs since there's apparently an insect pack in it.
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Apr 7, 2023 02:38
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A Moose posted:There used to be a combo deck on arena that was based around making so many triggers that your opponent couldn't click through all of them fast enough and it would skip their turn because of animations and such. I made a Standard legal combo deck that produced infinite mana using Teferi, He Who Slows The Whatever x2, Timeless Lotus, and Light Up The Night. Was fun to play but I'd lose frequently even when my combo was firing off because I was playing on my phone and I couldn't get through enough cycles before my timer expired. My historic version killed with Sheoldred, the Apocalypse and Peer Into The Abyss. That was pretty fun.
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Apr 7, 2023 02:44
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Twelve by Pies posted:Well working at a games shop has finally taken its toll. I'm building a Commander deck. We have a Commander thread full of cool posters, so feel free to drop by: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3988784&pagenumber=1
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Apr 7, 2023 02:58
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The best part of the rental programs is that you can do insanely risky short selling and end up in debt from MTGO while normal people laugh at you.
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Apr 7, 2023 03:31
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mossyfisk posted:The best part of the rental programs is that you can do insanely risky short selling and end up in debt from MTGO while normal people laugh at you. Lol Jesus Christ what on Earth is wrong with people?
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Apr 7, 2023 03:54
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yeah maybe mtgo is bad or whatever but arena doesn't have modern or pioneer and i'm not really interested in explorer or historic. maybe later on i'll pick it up for standard/draftWeird Pumpkin posted:Tbh while everyone jokes about it, it's a lot easier to use than it used to be. https://www.cardhoarder.com/mtgo-beginner-guide is a pretty good guide from what I've seen i glanced over this and it looks like what i wanted to know. thanks! i'm willing to dump some money in if i can get a feel of how it plays so it seems like this is fine
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Apr 7, 2023 04:37
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MTGO still has a lot of purpose between the Eternal formats and all the older Draft/Cube formats it often runs. Maybe someday Wizards will get off their rear end and really start getting older cards available on Arena, but as long as they can gouge folks while slowrolling all these old format cards in and pretend like they're curating new formats with it, they gonna keep doing that instead and MTGO will remain the program of choice for people who's interest isn't Standard.
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Apr 7, 2023 05:00
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Twelve by Pies posted:Well working at a games shop has finally taken its toll. I'm building a Commander deck. Grist is a great reanimator commander. Any top deck tutor (there’s a bunch) is an entomb, and Grist can also kill your own Protean Hulk for the win.
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Apr 7, 2023 05:43
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OneDeadman posted:MTGO is the only place you can play the One True Format: Unrestricted Momir Basic every couple months i log on just to play momir
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Apr 7, 2023 06:11
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Twelve by Pies posted:Commander is Grist and it's based around insects. Only problem is the store I work at is missing a lot of the bug cards I'd like to have. None of them are particularly expensive, just a pain I'll have to go out of my way to get them. I'm also going to have to buy some Jumpstart 2022 packs since there's apparently an insect pack in it. Don't buy packs for specific cards, especially cheap ones! There's over 100 kinds of Jumpstart packs you can pull, and only 4 of them are (varieties of) the Insect theme. The only expensive insect from J22 is Zask, and he costs less than a pack to buy on his own!
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Apr 7, 2023 09:46
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Jabor posted:And the format rules for Penny Dreadful are literally "if it was unplayable bulk that you could buy for a penny on <specific date> then it's legal". It rules. Tokens is a semi viable archetype. Weirdly enough stiflenaught was top tier when I was playing. I got to submit a bug report for a westvale abbey/tidal warrior interaction 
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Apr 7, 2023 10:26
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A Moose posted:There used to be a combo deck on arena that was based around making so many triggers that your opponent couldn't click through all of them fast enough and it would skip their turn because of animations and such. The old Hearthstone strategy, lol. MTGO is fun and most of the stuff that puts people off at first can be customized, like you can turn off the sound.
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Apr 7, 2023 13:22
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I've never played MTGO but watch Mengu's veedeos a lot. I read people complaining about the UI and while it does seem inelegant it also seems fine? Certainly looks intuitive enough to me. I like that it doesn't hand-hold on some things like Arena does, like when you look at an opponent's hand the cards don't stay permanently revealed, you have to actually remember what they have after the spell or ability resolves. There's also no giveaways that you have a free spell to cast (e.g. Pact of Negation, Force of Will) like in Arena.
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Apr 7, 2023 13:28
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Doesn’t MTGO have a revealed zone pop up?
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Apr 7, 2023 13:32
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Judgy Fucker posted:I've never played MTGO but watch Mengu's veedeos a lot. I read people complaining about the UI and while it does seem inelegant it also seems fine? Certainly looks intuitive enough to me. They absolutely do stay revealed fwiw, there's a revealed objects pane, it doesn't track it when they cast/play it though if that's what you mean, you have to do that part yourself Depending on your stops you can end up giving away information as well, but it's definitely different! Any new player will definitely F6 at least a couple games away during the learning process
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Apr 7, 2023 13:36
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My bad on the revealed zone thing, I guess I’ve just never noticed it somehow on Mengu’s videos. He’s slowly added a bunch of overlays, maybe it’s obscured? Anyway my point still stands that the UI may look like something straight out of 2002 but it also seems to work.
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Apr 7, 2023 13:39
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Twelve by Pies posted:Well working at a games shop has finally taken its toll. I'm building a Commander deck. https://www.tcgplayer.com/ https://www.cardkingdom.com/ These are kind of like the store you may work at with the key difference that they also include all the stores you may work at in the future. You can find the cards you need here.
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Apr 7, 2023 14:16
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Chakan posted:MTGO is fun and most of the stuff that puts people off at first can be customized, like you can turn off the sound. Not sure if the sound/voices are the same as in Arena, but turning off the sound would make my Minsc & Boo brawl deck objectively worse.
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Apr 7, 2023 14:48
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generatrix posted:Not sure if the sound/voices are the same as in Arena, but turning off the sound would make my Minsc & Boo brawl deck objectively worse. This is the funniest thing I've ever read. No, the sounds are probably not the same. When you play a creature a sfx created in 2000 that sounds vaguely like a toad ribbit occurs along with some generic forest/swamp background music. This would be great, except it sucks and it happens all the time. Everyone who gets MTGO turns the sound off ASAP and the first thing people do when they fresh install is boot up a game and say "oh poo poo, I have sound on, let me take care of that." There are probably new sounds by this point, but who would ever find out?
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I'd want more sound design on cards. Think that might be the one edge Hearthstone has over Arena. Then again they go a bit too far in that direction and stall you playing cards so it can do it's little animation and noise routine. They've actually rebalanced cards around the fact their ETB animation creates so much dead air where you can't play cards, or in extreme cases make it impossible for opponent to act on their turn, yet the cards aren't balanced with that skip turn effect in mind AFAIK. Edit: I can only say I want more sound design because I have never heard MTGOs actual sound designs, just the tiny ones here and there in Arena
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