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Class3KillStorm posted:In a way, wasn't that how Biden ended up winning last time, though? Sanders was way ahead on delegate count and everything in the early states, until Super Tuesday, when the more conservative Dems rallied around Biden and the number of delegates flooding his way ended up totally upending that race. The problem is still the same as it was when Rudy first used the plan: GOP primaries are almost entirely winner take all. So any strategy that might work in the Democratic primaries, where almost everything is proportionally awarded, is doomed to utter failure when tried by the Republicans. It's a lot like how Hillary's team of big brains managed to absolutely poo poo the bed in 2008 when they repeatedly failed to realize how caucuses work. The Giuliani Gambit could theoretically work, but even aside from all the various machinations needed it's utterly defeated if there is an actual front runner and not an overstuffed clown car of also fans.
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Young Freud posted:DeKalb county has issued a stop work order on Cop City. Apparently, inspectors found that the silt fence and other erosion control measures have failed, violating the land development permit. if dekalb inspectors are anything like the ones i've worked with, if a stop work order was given for bmps then either they're looking for an excuse to issue a stop work order or the site is a disaster zone. every bmp is installed half assed and never maintained afterward, and no one gives a poo poo unless it becomes a major problem
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It’s been making the news recently but I hadn’t seen it in this thread. There is a stunningly fast expansion of battery and chip manufacturing occurring in the US. If you read about it, and doubt that it’s actually happening, yes it very much is (I’m watching it) and it’s IRA related.
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Mooseontheloose posted:Here is another reason why his strategy is stupid: Eh...if Trump is on the ballot, DeSantis is going to romp to victory from the start. This "strategy" would only be enacted if Trump is on the ballot.
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Cimber posted:Wow, that's even worse. https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1644129980329197570
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What could even be done to remedy the obvious racism of the Tennessee legislature? I doubt there’s a legal solution.
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Gumball Gumption posted:It's a compromise that still gives space to the worst bigots and allows trans people to be frozen out in sports at a professional level by excluding them from college and highschool play. The American way, we won't kill you, just push you into a socio-economic class and prevent you from avenues to success until that kills you. No one's fault but your own then. I’ve seen people try and put the blame for this on Jeff Zients, but hey, who hired that motherfucker?
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Blind Pineapple posted:What could even be done to remedy the obvious racism of the Tennessee legislature? I doubt there’s a legal solution. I read if they are re-elected they can't be expelled again. Is that right?
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Blind Pineapple posted:What could even be done to remedy the obvious racism of the Tennessee legislature? I doubt there’s a legal solution. I think former President Obamna has a remedy to suggest...
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Charlz Guybon posted:I read if they are re-elected they can't be expelled again. Is that right? Interesting question. What happens if they get reelected and the house refuses to seat them?
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:if dekalb inspectors are anything like the ones i've worked with, if a stop work order was given for bmps then either they're looking for an excuse to issue a stop work order or the site is a disaster zone. every bmp is installed half assed and never maintained afterward, and no one gives a poo poo unless it becomes a major problem the entire cop city thing is wildly politically radioactive and the dekalb county inspectors absolutely don't want to be caught doing lax enforcement with so much attention being paid to the location, a large portion of which is activists willing and able to document and file litigation around environmental law violations. 100% letter of the law on this one a stop work order over sediment and runoff containment violations is pretty common, the fact that it warranted a breaking news tweet and press release should indicate how entirely energized the opponents of this project are
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I'm not from Georgia. What is Cop City?
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An enormous cop training center that's supposed to be built in a forest in Atlanta. There are a number of protestors camping out in the forest to try and prevent it, and one of the protestors was killed by cops recently. https://abcnews.go.com/US/atlantas-cop-city-people-protesting/story?id=96716095
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Charlz Guybon posted:I'm not from Georgia. What is Cop City? A big police training facility that they're planning to bulldoze a large section of public forest to build. Protestors have been occupying the forest for months to stop them. A few months ago, a protestor who goes by Tortuguita was shot and killed. Many more protestors were arrested on charges of domestic terrorism and denied bail.
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the really short answer is that the city of atlanta is trying to build a new public safety training center on a piece of city owned land just outside of city limits. its a pretty big facility, classrooms but also a driving track, fake buildings for weapons training, a burn building that firefighters can use to practice putting out fires, etc. they want to build it on a piece of land that used to be used as a prison farm and is now just a dumping ground and ad hoc shooting range for the APD. there's a lot of complicated land stuff going on in the immediate area that has had different groups of activists already activising, and the area is a mix of older low income black neighborhoods, correctional uses, garbage and waste treatment infrastructure, boggy watersheds that are thickly forested, and light industrial uses including a very large movie studio this existing bed of community activism reacted quite negatively to the announcement of the training center, they dubbed it cop city and have been doing a great job of doing online organization and getting their profile out there. for like 18 months there have been people treesitting and living in the woods to block construction. in january as the police were forcibly clearing the site, they shot a protester to death and everything escalated. about a month ago a group of protestors 200 strong stormed the construction site, scattered the cops and burnt vehicles. the cops are super jumpy now and arresting people on ridiculous charges like domestic terrorism. in the last week or so the cops have really asserted control over the site and clearcutting of some trees began Fister Roboto posted:A big police training facility that they're planning to bulldoze a large section of public forest to build. cop city is on the old atlanta prison farm property, which has always been closed to the public. the farm is adjacent to a waterway called intrenchment creek. on the other side of the creek are a number of parcels of land, mostly public - some undeveloped forest, some built as a public park, and some containing a paved long distance trail that goes through the area. while it looks like one contiguous bit of forest, the east side of the creek is mostly public, the west side is mostly not. the cops have never needed a pretense to detain anyone found at the prison farm, any visitors have always had to sneak in - its just that the cops were rarely around or gave a poo poo. bad news for you if you bumped into cops there though Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Apr 7, 2023 |
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So about that stop work order https://twitter.com/atlanta_press/status/1644156039636434944?s=20 https://twitter.com/atlanta_press/status/1644166235288924161?s=20 https://twitter.com/atlanta_press/status/1644167936247226368?s=20
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Cimber posted:Interesting question. What happens if they get reelected and the house refuses to seat them? god america is sooooo loving stupid. loving soooo many layers of horseshit norms and pseudo norms and weird law magics.
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If the house refuses to seat them when the law says they should get seated, they go to court. If they win (very likely) and still don’t get seated, then the fun really starts Ideally at some point the electorate would get sick of this poo poo, but, well, you’d think that would have happened earlier in this process
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Fister Roboto posted:A big police training facility that they're planning to bulldoze a large section of public forest to build. Protestors have been occupying the forest for months to stop them. A few months ago, a protestor who goes by Tortuguita was shot and killed. Many more protestors were arrested on charges of domestic terrorism and denied bail. IIRC it was also another case of cops lying about people they murder because they claimed that they returned fire after the protester shot at them but the autopsy determined that the victim was shot through his hands in a way that would only be possible if he was unarmed and had them up in surrender. What likely really happened was that they surrounded the tent the guy was in and fired wildly into it, causing one of them to get shot by a fellow cop. E. https://www.npr.org/2023/03/11/1162843992/cop-city-atlanta-activist-autopsy
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That the bill supposedly makes it hard for institutions to discriminate against trans people is a deeply insulting argument.CuddleCryptid posted:IIRC it was also another case of cops lying about people they murder because they claimed that they returned fire after the protester shot at them but the autopsy determined that the victim was shot through his hands in a way that would only be possible if he was unarmed and had them up in surrender. What likely really happened was that they surrounded the tent the guy was in and fired wildly into it, causing one of them to get shot by a fellow cop. And these are the people having their own private Disneyland built for them.
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Piell posted:So about that stop work order The way that's written sounds really dark.
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Zamujasa posted:The way that's written sounds really dark. Living through the collapse of empire is not a fun experience for those within it.
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Name Change posted:I struggle to think of how you could more shame yourself as an institution or bring down a bigger shitstorm of negative attention from all directions. This makes their supporters happy. America is not a democracy, and in Tennessee most voters are the type of people happy about this anyway, so they only have to care about their supporters. There is no negative attention from that sole direction.
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XboxPants posted:If you're looking for more details, most of the info seems to be coming from local Florida outlet Pensacola News Journal: https://www.pnj.com/story/news/crim...ns/70088634007/ For what it's worth the veracity of those quotes is disputed too. https://twitter.com/GeoRebekah/status/1644148098845888513 The screenshot comes from the following article in the Miami Herald: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article274038075.html Given that this is the same person who had their home raided by the cops on a bullshit charge in the wake of the covid falsification whistleblower issue, I'm kinda willing to buy her side here.
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Rebekah Jones is not a perfect witness and definitely has some personal life issues*. I'm still in the camp of "Trust, but verify" but it's absolutely looking more and more like this was another deliberately targeted attack at her. I congratulate her on the upcoming financial settlement. "State forcefully child away from parent for petty politics" is not going to go well for the state if they let it get to a jury trial. edit: Personal life issues that would make a CPS action a believable notion that is** Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 11:59 on Apr 7, 2023 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:A Florida jury? Maybe I'm naive but I think you would be hard pressed to find a jury in America that wouldn't give a huge and furious middle finger to government or policing institutions that abduct a child for petty political reasons. Especially so that the victim is a telegenic white woman.
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I'm hearing a lot of anger from people in the community in Tennessee yesterday and today, even people who are not friends of Obama.
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Rebekah Jones is not a perfect witness and definitely has some personal life issues*. I'm still in the camp of "Trust, but verify" but it's absolutely looking more and more like this was another deliberately targeted attack at her. Umm... you might want to look at the news article XboxPants posted in the last page or two. Especially when it comes to that "forcefully takes child away" part: quote:Santa Rosa Sheriff’s Office investigators called the boy’s mother, Rebekah Jones, who said the family was vacationing in Mississippi but would call investigators when she returned. During the interview, Rebekah Jones confirmed there were no guns in the residents and the only weapons were kitchen knives, which she has stored in a locked box.
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JesustheDarkLord posted:I'm hearing a lot of anger from people in the community in Tennessee yesterday and today, even people who are not friends of Obama. I can't remember if I saw it here or on Twitter, but I think this sentiment summed it up very well: https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1644129754172334080 Even someone who ain't woke can see just how egregious this is, you pretty much have to be a card-carrying white supremacist to not see something's pretty hosed up here.
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Charlz Guybon posted:I read if they are re-elected they can't be expelled again. Is that right? That's correct, at least on paper: Tennessee Constitution posted:Section 12. Each House may determine the rules of its proceedings, punish its members for disorderly behavior, and, with the concurrence of two-thirds, expel a member, but not a second time for the same offense; and shall have all other powers necessary for a branch of the Legislature of a free state If returned, the two expelled members couldn't be expelled again for the same thing-- but with caveats like "what if the House trumps up some new charges, since they've already crossed the one Rubicon," or "would the courts even be willing to take the case if the House ignores the constitution and kicks them out anyway?" Who knows! At any rate, the fun continues: Tennessee Constitution posted:Section 15. Vacancies. When the seat of any member of either House becomes vacant, the vacancy shall be filled as follows: Apparently Tennessee runs their state legislature a bit like the US Senate, with legislators sort of representing their home counties, so the local governments of Nashville and Memphis get to appoint successors to serve until either a special or general election, whichever comes first. And I can think of two stellar candidates with lots of experience who just became available to serve! 
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Cimber posted:Wow, that's even worse. That guys been pretty historically prone to calling out all the terrible poo poo the GOP has done in the Trump/Post Trump era and even since he resigned almost as if it's his job. As far as I've ever been able to tell for a former GOP chair guy you could do a hell of a lot worse than Steele. He's no Elise Stefanik that's for sure.
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PT6A posted:I can't remember if I saw it here or on Twitter, but I think this sentiment summed it up very well: I joked with someone that it's a rare double fascism. Outlawing the people who disagree with you and having a race based way of executing the expulsion is loving brazen.
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On the bright side, this did shine a spotlight on Justin Pearson, who is pretty loving rad. https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1644085874982887428?s=46&t=xjoX4EYhjjJHLNhbe-XLBA
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Automata 10 Pack posted:On the bright side, this did shine a spotlight on Justin Pearson, who is pretty loving rad. Well the GOP just did the Democrats a favor by introducing someone to the nation who will likely be a rising star now.
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Seven Deadly Sins posted:Given that this is the same person who had their home raided by the cops on a bullshit charge in the wake of the covid falsification whistleblower issue, I'm kinda willing to buy her side here. Given that her initial claim about that incident was “they pointed guns at my CHILDREN!!!” which was then debunked by a full release of bodycam video, that she then released an “enemies list” of scientists who critiqued her methodology so her Twitter followers could harass them, and the literal mountain of other lies and unhinged behavior, I’m coming down on “let’s wait and see”.
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