Ukraine: The Aristoblyats

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Jimmy Smuts: Aug 8, 2000

Thank God I deployed to a FOB, we (a handful of USAF folks) and the Army didn't wear reflective belts there, God that sounds dumb. In fact we might've had too few rules, it felt like the wild west.
As for my dreams, I keep dreaming about showing up to work but in the wrong uniform. I don't mean wearing blues rather than OCPs, I mean wearing my old BDUs. It's always BDUs for some reason. I got these dreams too at my old unit where the UOD was civvies and wearing uniforms was very forbidden, so that was fun.

# ? Apr 6, 2023 21:41

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# ? Jun 5, 2024 14:55

Kazinsal: Dec 13, 2011

I had a no-poo poo "late to school and I don't know what my schedule is or what classes I'm enrolled in" dream last night. It's been a while since I've had one of those. Still woke me up.

# ? Apr 6, 2023 22:23

Stultus Maximus: Dec 21, 2009; USPOL May

Saul Kain posted:

Been out since 2013. Still get army dreams. Only they feature current (fat) me failing a PT test or worse feature current (stoned) me having to take a wiz quiz. Those alternate with the dream about having an exam in a class I forgot I was taking and never went. Anxiety sucks.

I've had that one, too of course. Often not just "oh poo poo I signed up for 19th Century American Politics and today is the final and I never went" but it also usually involves not being able to find the building and classroom it's in.

Then again, I actually did take a class that I stopped going to and showed up randomly one day that was coincidentally the midterm which I had forgotten about.
It was a lovely class with a lovely professor in a lovely overbooked lecture hall which meant that if I didn't get there early I had to stand in the back so I decided gently caress that noise, I'll just read the textbook and pass with a C somehow.

# ? Apr 6, 2023 22:33

Tiny Timbs: Sep 6, 2008

Kazinsal posted:

I had a no-poo poo "late to school and I don't know what my schedule is or what classes I'm enrolled in" dream last night. It's been a while since I've had one of those. Still woke me up.

I graduated college well over a decade ago and I just had a �forgot to go to a class all semester� dream a few weeks ago.

Can�t believe that poo poo leaves such a deep scar. Those dreams hit harder than nightmares.

# ? Apr 6, 2023 23:18

lightpole: Jun 4, 2004; I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".

Those dreams don't really last long for me cause when they start my brain goes "no youre too uptight for this to actually happen".

# ? Apr 6, 2023 23:28

Vengarr: Jun 17, 2010; Smashed before noon

NYT: Classified documents detailing secret American and NATO plans have appeared on Twitter and Telegram.

�NYT� posted:

The Pentagon is investigating who may have been behind the leak of the documents, which appeared on Twitter and on Telegram, a platform with more than half a billion users that is widely available in Russia.

Military analysts said the documents appear to have been modified in certain parts from their original format, overstating American estimates of Ukrainian war dead and understating estimates of Russian troops killed.

Man, it really is a mystery. We may never know. :iiam:

# ? Apr 6, 2023 23:30

Taerkar: Dec 7, 2002; kind of into it, really

Tiny Timbs posted:

I graduated college well over a decade ago and I just had a “forgot to go to a class all semester” dream a few weeks ago.

Can’t believe that poo poo leaves such a deep scar. Those dreams hit harder than nightmares.

I've gotten a few "You need to go back to school and take this class again or else" dream... and the kicker was that it was going back to elementary school.

# ? Apr 7, 2023 00:45

perfluorosapien: Aug 15, 2015; Oven Wrangler

Kazinsal posted:

I had a no-poo poo "late to school and I don't know what my schedule is or what classes I'm enrolled in" dream last night. It's been a while since I've had one of those. Still woke me up.

Sometimes I read about what the young people are up to and my impulse is that it's messed up and someone ought to take them in hand. Then I realize that the nightmares I still have are from the same age and situations they're in right now.

# ? Apr 7, 2023 00:53

Subjunctive: Sep 12, 2006; ✨sparkle and shine✨

Tiny Timbs posted:

I graduated college well over a decade ago and I just had a �forgot to go to a class all semester� dream a few weeks ago.

They�re a cultural phenomenon. I had a dream like that about a month ago too, and I never attended college. Just absorbed that nightmare form from the media or something. loving brains.

# ? Apr 7, 2023 01:33

Borscht: Jun 4, 2011

That's like how my dog barks at doorbells in movies despite the fact she's never heard a doorbell in real life.

# ? Apr 7, 2023 01:41

madeintaipei: Jul 13, 2012

Taerkar posted:

I've gotten a few "You need to go back to school and take this class again or else" dream... and the kicker was that it was going back to elementary school.

Ugh. I still have dreams about being forced to go back to high school. Damnedest thing, I realize how old I am and no one else seems to notice.

The worst though, is dreams about work. No bubbles, no troubles, just delivering bread like I would. Then I wake up for work like, "Oh, come ON!"

# ? Apr 7, 2023 01:50

Taerkar: Dec 7, 2002; kind of into it, really

I've had work dreams where I was convinced I did something already because I did it in a dream.

# ? Apr 7, 2023 01:53

Gaius Marius: Oct 9, 2012

I have nothing but dreams about people breaking into my house, cutting me open, and stealing my organs

# ? Apr 7, 2023 01:58

Soul Dentist: Mar 17, 2009

Taerkar posted:

I've gotten a few "You need to go back to school and take this class again or else" dream... and the kicker was that it was going back to elementary school.

# ? Apr 7, 2023 02:14

Computer viking: May 30, 2011; Now with less breakage.

yurtcradled posted:

Sometimes I read about what the young people are up to and my impulse is that it's messed up and someone ought to take them in hand. Then I realize that the nightmares I still have are from the same age and situations they're in right now.

Yeah, same. I'm really glad I'm personally done with exams, but maybe we should arrange the system in a way that doesn't leave entire generations waking up with their hearts pounding 20+ years after they finish.

# ? Apr 7, 2023 02:19

Generation Internet: Jan 18, 2009; Where angels and generals fear to tread.

Nothing groundbreaking, but apparently someone leaked a US intelligence summary online in service of arguing with people on 4chan.

It has since been edited to flip the numbers on the Ukrainian KIA (from 16-17k to 61-71k) and is circulating on Russian telegram channels.

What a time to be alive.

Modedit: Please don't post classified in GIP

Somebody fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Apr 7, 2023

# ? Apr 7, 2023 02:48

orange juche: Mar 14, 2012

orange juche fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Apr 7, 2023

# ? Apr 7, 2023 03:04

Alan Smithee: Jan 4, 2005; A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

uh am I gonna be someone's clearance witness despite not being service

# ? Apr 7, 2023 03:07

orange juche: Mar 14, 2012

Alan Smithee posted:

uh am I gonna be someone's clearance witness despite not being service

Well whoever leaked it is going to get loving witnessed, because there's a record of all viewers of reports like that. Someone's gonna get loving smoked. Also just cause it's everywhere doesn't mean we gotta propagate it.

# ? Apr 7, 2023 03:10

Handsome Ralph: Sep 3, 2004; Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!

orange juche posted:

Someone's gonna get loving smoked.

# ? Apr 7, 2023 03:21

Comrade Blyatlov: Aug 4, 2007; should have picked four fingers

Woo-hoo, not me!

# ? Apr 7, 2023 03:24

Generation Internet: Jan 18, 2009; Where angels and generals fear to tread.

My bad for posting the tweets, here's the relevant NYT article on the matter:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/06/us/politics/ukraine-war-plan-russia.html

# ? Apr 7, 2023 03:25

orange juche: Mar 14, 2012

Generation Internet posted:

My bad for posting the tweets, here's the relevant NYT article on the matter:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/06/us/politics/ukraine-war-plan-russia.html

Yeah no worries, just keep in mind that some folks are still in, or are still affiliated, or have a clearance, and viewing those sorts of things can create a reportable incident for them, the less hassle we create for anyone with a clearance the better.

# ? Apr 7, 2023 03:26

A.o.D.: Jan 15, 2006

Just because a document has escaped into the wild doesn't mean that the laws regarding the handling of classified material no longer apply. Quite the opposite, in fact.

# ? Apr 7, 2023 03:37

Tunicate: May 15, 2012

A.o.D. posted:

Just because a document has escaped into the wild doesn't mean that the laws regarding the handling of classified material no longer apply. Quite the opposite, in fact.

the US federal goverment tried to sue the New York Times for sharing the classified pentagon papers, and lost pretty hard

also don't click:
:nsa:

# ? Apr 7, 2023 03:53

A.o.D.: Jan 15, 2006

Tunicate posted:

the US federal goverment tried to sue the New York Times for sharing the classified pentagon papers, and lost pretty hard

also don't click:

I'm not the NYT. The feds have FAR greater leeway to make my life suck.

# ? Apr 7, 2023 03:58

FrozenVent: May 1, 2009; The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

# ? Apr 7, 2023 04:10

Brute Squad: Dec 20, 2006; Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human race

it's a digital moral imperative

# ? Apr 7, 2023 04:12

Alan Smithee: Jan 4, 2005; A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

What if I�m the commander in chief

# ? Apr 7, 2023 04:22

Quackles: Aug 11, 2018; Pixels of Light.

Alan Smithee posted:

What if I�m the commander in chief

If you're the commander in chef, get back in the kitchen :discourse:

# ? Apr 7, 2023 04:25

Shaman Tank Spec: Dec 26, 2003; *blep*

PurpleXVI posted:

I'd always be interested in reading translated articles that might otherwise not hit the major English-language news outlets, assuming they're interesting, factual and/or funny.

This should be two out of three.

I am very grateful to Yle for the quality journalism they're doing both in Russia and Ukraine. This time they embedded a journalist on an Ukrainian hospital bus to find out about the processes they use to transport injured soldiers to hospitals.

Journalist: Antti Kuronen
Link: https://yle.fi/a/74-20024893

Yle posted:

Ukrainians created an efficient way of saving the wounded -- in the darkness of the night drives a bus full of men talking about their trauma
An ambulance bus drives with wounded on board. Yle's Antti Kuronen tagged along to see how patients are cared for on the way to the hospital.

EAST UKRAINE

Night has already fallen, when ambulances appear in the middle of nowhere. We are on a large highway leading to the city of Dnipro. Next to us is a large ambulance bus. Seriously injured Ukrainian soldiers are quickly moved from small ambulances into the large bus.

The men were wounded that same day. They received first aid on the frontlines, and afterwards in a field hospital. Now they are being moved to a central hospital in Dnipro. The trip there is a couple of hundred kilometers.

The bus is equipped like a hospital ward. Six patients have been hooked up to monitoring equipment. Two of them are in a coma.

The bus travels smoothly on the highway. The road was completed only shortly after Russia's invasion. One of president Volodymyr Zelenskyi's big undertakings was the improvement of Ukraine's road network.

- Thanks to this bus our ambulances can return to their frontline duties, where they are most needed. We take care of long distance transports with the bus, explains Danilo, who is caring for the wounded.

Danilo used to be a criminal defence attorney. Before Russia's invasion he worked on major criminal cases. Now he cares for injured soldiers. Even though their injuries are very severe, they want to talk. Strong painkillers have dulled the pain.

- When the firing began, we dove into a foxhole. We took a direct hit. My left arm was shredded badly, Ruslan recounts his traumatic experiences.

Four soldiers were injured in the same attack. Ruslan's leg was also damaged.

- When I woke up, I noticed that my leg was just hanging loosely. My buddy applied a tourniquet, because I didn't have enough strength myself.

After that Ruslan lost consciousness. Thanks to first aid from field medics he is still here, alive.

- When I get a little bit better, I will go home. Waiting for me there are my wife and my small daughter. I haven't seen them in a year, because we haven't been able to take any time off, says Ruslan who served as a machine gunner at the front.

- Russians will spend hours trying to take over our trenches. They executed drone strikes, used gas and hammered us with artillery, Dmitro tells of the night's events.

Dmitro was hit with shrapnel. Artillery is the largest cause of injuries.

Russia has had the edge over Ukraine's artillery in the hard fighting in Eastern Ukraine.

- I have no idea how they managed to evacuate me. They used stretchers. It's very dangerous because there are lots of drones around. Many of my buddies were injured in drone attacks.

These men were fighting at the front lines in the Donetsk area. Some were wounded in Bakhmut. They come from different parts of Ukraine. Dmitro is from Kharkov. Also on the bus is one foreigner, Johnny. He is from a Ukrainian family from Israel, and he is only 22 years old.

- The Russians were only a couple of dozen meters away and they were firing at us from a tank, says Johnny. This is about all he can remember from the event, because he suffered a serious concussion.

- I was lucky to survive. I feel bad for my buddies, Johnny says.

The bus is continuing on its two hour journey to Dnipro, to one of the best hospitals in Ukraine. Soldiers wounded in the war in Eastern Ukraine have been treated there since 2014.

How many Ukrainians fall in combat or are wounded is not something that's discussed in public. But the number is big. According to experts Russia loses many times more soldiers in its poorly planned attacks. Be that as it may, Ukraine is still paying a heavy price.

We visited a hospital in one of the front line cities. Prior to Russia's invasion it was a place where civilians got treated. Now it's only soldiers. We weren't allowed to film soldiers as they were brought in from the front lines.

At the hospital doctors try to stabilize severly injured soldiers enough for them to survive the transport onwards to Dnipro, for instance in the hospital bus.

The hospital has three operating rooms, and sees dozens of patients every day. Sometimes more than a hundred.

The work is emotionally draining, says one of the nurses. Anna has been working at the front line hospital for nearly a year. Prior to that she was an operating room nurse.

- The difference is massive, it can't be compared. For instance the condition our patients are in when they come to the operating room. In civilian life they were clean, washed. Soldiers can be covered in mud.

- Sometimes they haven't eaten in days. Not because food isn't available, but because they simply haven't had the time.

The biggest difference is the mental stress. There are many wounded and they can't always be helped.

- You have to try to adjust. Otherwise you'll burn out quickly, Anna says.

Her younger colleague, 33 year old Alyona, also tells us about the mental side. It is hard.

- It's hard mentally when they bring in soldiers, who have lost an arm or a leg. The worst is still when they bring in someone whose life we can't safe. It happens. It is so terribly draining, Alyona says.

Both Anna and Alyona came to the front lines as volunteers.

- I couldn't sit at home and do my regular job when I knew that so many needed help, Anna sums up.

The Hospitallers' ambulance bus continues on its journey to Dnipro. Inside everything is quiet. The doctor and three medics are calmly assisting patients. Outside it's pitch black. The roads are mostly only used by military vehicles, because of the curfew.

The trips are not without danger. An Austrian volunteer was killed, when the previous bus ran at full speed into the back of a tank in the middle of the night. It was pitch black.

- Now we have an escort car driving in front of us, Danilo says.

The bus is named after the female medic who died. Its name is Avstriyka.

# ? Apr 7, 2023 07:35

psydude: Apr 1, 2008

Tunicate posted:

the US federal goverment tried to sue the New York Times for sharing the classified pentagon papers, and lost pretty hard

also don't click:

Yes, but having a clearance is not a right, and people have been arrested for discussing classified programs on this forum before.

# ? Apr 7, 2023 08:20

Somaen: Nov 19, 2007; by vyelkin

Is there any indication that it's real? It was posted on 4chan originally

My guess would be us intelligence pretending to leak some obfuscating material to russian intel, who are desperate for a win, to fill the airwaves about the Ukrainian loses and take attention off actual preparations

# ? Apr 7, 2023 09:04

orange juche: Mar 14, 2012

Somaen posted:

Is there any indication that it's real? It was posted on 4chan originally

My guess would be us intelligence pretending to leak some obfuscating material to russian intel, who are desperate for a win, to fill the airwaves about the Ukrainian loses and take attention off actual preparations

Whether it's real or not, especially if the contents of the report are as broad as they seem, it's not good to speculate on leaked intel.

# ? Apr 7, 2023 09:41

Alchenar: Apr 9, 2008

Ukraine isn't even a War Thunder faction yet

# ? Apr 7, 2023 09:47

orange juche: Mar 14, 2012

Alchenar posted:

Ukraine isn't even a War Thunder faction yet

And this is why it's even dumber than the usual leaks, its not even sim nerds, it's idiots clout chasing on loving 4chan/twitter/reddit

# ? Apr 7, 2023 10:02

Pennsylvanian: May 23, 2010; Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky Independent Presidential Regiment
Western Liberal Democracy or Death!

Alchenar posted:

Ukraine isn't even a War Thunder faction yet

Despite how many tank designs came out of Morozov.

# ? Apr 7, 2023 14:46

Cimber: Feb 3, 2014

psydude posted:

Yes, but having a clearance is not a right, and people have been arrested for discussing classified programs on this forum before.

Seriously? Someone got arrested? When did this happen?

# ? Apr 7, 2023 14:47

M_Gargantua: Oct 16, 2006; STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES; Exciting Lemon

That was the guy talking about nuclear early warning satellite capabilities right?

# ? Apr 7, 2023 14:56

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# ? Jun 5, 2024 14:55

Rev. Bleech_: Oct 19, 2004; ~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

Telsa Cola posted:

Mine is it's one week after the semester is over and I remember I had a class I signed up for and never went.

aside from taking place more than a month into the semester and being a required lab instead of an out and out class, this happened to me IRL. The computer lab we were supposed to use wasn't ready the first week, and he said to come back in a week and a half or so. Out of sight out of mind, and I never heard him mention it. One day I happen to glance at a window while walking to my car and say "huh, everyone in my X class is in there, I wond-OH SWEET MERCIFUL CRAP"

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