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Someone put a non-spoiler stat guide of the railway. https://docs.google.com/document/d/149rzHw6y_rxH_kDFnzmANNgDDEKfsKYmB5JABIbJNIs/edit?usp=sharing
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Finally got N Corp Faust (when I was trying to get 7 Outis, go figure), but now I gotta figure out if she's worth switching in for LobCorp Remnant Faust for my next Railway attempt.
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Apr 7, 2023 16:23
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The HP totals are really bullshit. It just isn't fun. I nearly got it(managed to push off the Slithering Inquisitor, one Four-Legged Beast about to die) and then I died because my sole survivor, Sinclair, couldn't beat the beasts in a clash. I was excited and interested, thinking up a new strategy and how I'd work it, started again...and then just ragequit because the constant slow gradual grinding was too much. I don't even know if it was a brick wall-it's just that it takes so long to try to break down these meat walls. When my Level 30 Ishmael uses her Mind Whip against a staggered foe with Fragile or otherwise lowered defenses, she can do upwards of 250 damage. This is enough to one-hit or almost most regular enemies in the game. This is also around 15% of the Slithering Inquisitor's health pool. The circumstances to do this much damage are few and far between. I understand the idea of a challenge, but it's just deeply, deeply frustrating to just have these infinite fights for sliver damage. I've given up on turncount, it's just frustrating and unfun. Whether my strategy will work or not, if I put effort into it I will have to spend so much time slowly slogging away that at several points I've considered just turning on winrate in what's supposed to be the biggest challenge mode. Not to mention all of this is decided by the weaknesses, which you aren't told about in advance! If you used units that would be good for one thing to do a fight before it, you might just be completely screwed and have no idea! This is partly on me and my terrible skills, I admit, but also the amount of meatwalls... The K Corp fight was actually significantly less irritating than all the 1500 HP abnos because at least you got to feel like you were actually doing damage before they healed it up and there was a challenge in 'hit them hard enough they can't heal it back'. R Heathcliff, who I trained up because he's usually one of the best units, is completely useless here. This might be easier if I change out, but if I change out then I'm going to have to fight through all nine stages again.
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Apr 7, 2023 16:29
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Just cleared Dog and Fish with 2 deaths... both my fault. Spammed too much EGO with Mers so he started corroding and getting surgery stacks, and I pressed Win Rate on the last turn with R Ishmael  Kromer was honestly a joke, which says a lot about the balance of which fights are hard in here.On the bright side, the tickets gave me not only R Heathcliff at last, but also Kurokumo Rodion and Form is Emptiness EGO. At this point I'm either going for W Don or using all my boxes to spark whatever event unit we get this month (specially if the joke becomes lore and we get NotHamHamPangPang IDs).
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Apr 7, 2023 16:57
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 Kind of have to agree with t3isukone there on the really massively inflated health pools dragging the experience down a bit. I gave it a shot because it looked fun and I thought "It'll be a nice a little thing I can play at before I go do other stuff", and it took me all afternoon practically, especially how a lot of these bosses seem to be big health pools rather than any actual complicated challenge. The one boss that felt super interesting was the last boss but the others were kind of a slog once you got past their gimmick. TheNabster fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Apr 7, 2023 |
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Apr 7, 2023 17:00
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TheNabster posted:
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Apr 7, 2023 17:07
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t3isukone posted:R Heathcliff, who I trained up because he's usually one of the best units, is completely useless here. it's kinda funny to see this sentiment so much when R Heath is used liberally in a lot of the lowest turn clear strats. the sickos really are playing on a different level. I finished up around 156 turns, miiight go back and try for the fancy banner but maybe not. had a lot of frustrating restarts and own goals but it overall felt fun and satisfying to clear, and of course the loot is great. very excited for the upcoming event!
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Apr 7, 2023 17:24
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...waait a minute. Just to fully check... can you bring supports to RR?
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Apr 7, 2023 17:32
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:...waait a minute. I'm pretty sure you can only use one support unit, but yeah.
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Apr 7, 2023 17:36
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GilliamYaeger posted:Just finished Refraction in 113 turns! Just got a very, very clean start - none of the first seven fights went over 10 turns which gave me more than enough wiggle room to just sail through the rest of the run without even needing to try and go fast. Knew I had things in the bag when I calced things out and saw I'd beat the target by merely winning the rest of the fights in an average of 13 turns. i don't have sinclair and faust uptied, and i don't have w don at all  otoh been VERY impressed with Seven Outis e: i suppose this could be a use for friend codes
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Apr 7, 2023 17:41
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:...waait a minute. yah, I used a support Sinclair for my run since i didnt have his 000 myself
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Apr 7, 2023 17:44
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Pkay I'm an idiot that's a massive change since I can bring a friend W Don to make her slot not dead. Now with R Heathcliff and maybe bringing some 00 Yi Sang/Ryoshu/Sinclair for support skills I might be able to do better.
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Apr 7, 2023 17:46
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YES bread posted:it's kinda funny to see this sentiment so much when R Heath is used liberally in a lot of the lowest turn clear strats. the sickos really are playing on a different level. Google Jeb Bush posted:i don't have sinclair and faust uptied, and i don't have w don at all Friend code is X369627650, by the way, if anyone wants to use my tricked out units.
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Apr 7, 2023 17:57
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finished my first run with 155, but i definitely hoarded my sins waaay too much, so i could pare that down significantly it was fun to actually have to engage with mechanics. i finally had to learn what exactness some of my EGOs did lmao, ive mostly just used single target ones to guarantee clash wins
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Apr 7, 2023 18:00
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Thanks, sent you a request.
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is there any way to see what ego passives you've activated so far in a fight?
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Has anyone else had problems with the mobile app version recently? It was the primary way I was playing since launch day and didn't have any issues. But at some point between April Fools and the railway update it started crashing whenever I use an EGO. Did anyone else have this problem? Any fixes?
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Apr 7, 2023 19:34
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apparently turning off post processing really improves performance, that might help?
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Making my way through chapter 3 right now, and just so I'm prepared for the dungeon, can someone explain Kromer? I've heard she's blunt resistant and burns/bleeds are a terrible idea, but I don't know anything past that. I'd really like to not have to repeat a dungeon (after getting my team squashed flat by baba yaga's ice castle in dungeon 2).
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Arzaac posted:Making my way through chapter 3 right now, and just so I'm prepared for the dungeon, can someone explain Kromer? I've heard she's blunt resistant and burns/bleeds are a terrible idea, but I don't know anything past that. I'd really like to not have to repeat a dungeon (after getting my team squashed flat by baba yaga's ice castle in dungeon 2). I just fought her today on Railway and it's the same fight, so here are some tips (spoiling the explanations if you don't need them): Bring Slash and specially Pierce. She's weak to Pride and resists Lust as an additional bonus but don't overfocus on that. She uses a variety of types and mainly Pride/Lust/Wrath skills. Try not to spam too many EGOs since you'd like to have at least 1-2 ready for big attacks. P1: Just play the clash and redirect game until T5 or so where she readies a big coin attack that will stagger a sinner, have the target use a Big EGO to win the Clash and stagger her. You can extend the stagger by reaching her threshold which makes the phase go fast. P2: Focus on the Maw since it's the part weak to Pierce, and clash her other skills. Have EGOs ready for her Wrath skills since they're big coins. At low HP you can pass a Pride Check to insta stagger her whoch should lead to a win. It mostly depends on your levels, since at low levels she'll win clashes way more easily and be a pain. EDIT: Also you can bring Burn/Bleed if you need to, but Burn can never rise above 1 count (so no Liu Hong Lu or Liu Mersault) and Bleed needs to be used up before the start of the next turn (the harder one to control) GiantRockFromSpace fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Apr 7, 2023 |
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Now that I've gotten all IDs to 26 (except some new ones I just got), I'm gonna try focusing on elevating the ones I found most useful on the Railway to 30. Already got W Corp DQ there, next is Faust Who Grips. I dunno if I'm actually going to try to get the best banner, but I guess we'll see.Arzaac posted:Making my way through chapter 3 right now, and just so I'm prepared for the dungeon, can someone explain Kromer? I've heard she's blunt resistant and burns/bleeds are a terrible idea, but I don't know anything past that. I'd really like to not have to repeat a dungeon (after getting my team squashed flat by baba yaga's ice castle in dungeon 2). First phase has no weaknesses, so concentrate on winning clashes and getting sin points. "The Gripping" will stagger whatever it targets no matter what, so pick the unit who you need least next turn to take it. "I'll Claim Your Life" needs to be clashed with an E.G.O., because it staggers her when you beat it. Second Phase is a much more normal fight that I won with no problems. People have said she has a really strong multi-target attack, but I never saw it.
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studio mujahideen posted:apparently turning off post processing really improves performance, that might help? I've been having the same problem on my Pixel 6A and turning off post processing did make my phone run cooler than it did previously, but it didn't actually solve the problem. It lasted longer than previously, but that just means hanging for five seconds when the EGO splash art first pops up and then crashing instead of crashing as soon as it hits that part of the animation.
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Dunno if it's a bug or a boon from project moon but the railway version of Kromer doesn't have the burn/bleed passive.
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:Has anyone else had problems with the mobile app version recently? It was the primary way I was playing since launch day and didn't have any issues. My iphone overheated whenever an ego was used. That might be happening to you.
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Welp, finished in about 160~ turns. Final boss was surprisingly painless besides one time he went mad. Is the 000 banner for the ticket you get from the final boss not up yet? Wouldn't use it yet with only 3 identities left, but just wondering.
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Shows up for me, but im not sure if we're getting another set of story IDs before the season ends, so I'm unsure if I should use it now
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We're definitely getting at least one more set; the event IDs from Hell's Chicken are considered part of Season 1.
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The special ticket banner specifies STORY IDs, which are the ones based on enemy types in ch1--3, is the thing. so im not sure the event ones will count
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studio mujahideen posted:Shows up for me, but im not sure if we're getting another set of story IDs before the season ends, so I'm unsure if I should use it now We're getting another story chapter before the season ends (unless the roadmap breaks entirely), so I assume we're getting a few more banners. EDIT: Or maybe I misread the whole thing and completely forgot when this season ends. Lurks With Wolves fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Apr 7, 2023 |
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Lurks With Wolves posted:We're getting another story chapter before the season ends (unless the roadmap breaks entirely), so I assume we're getting a few more banners. Checking out the roadmap we're getting a banner right before Chapter 4/Season 2. It could be another story banner (which would be... N Corp Sinclair? K Corp someone?) or another Regular banner like Seven Outis. Also the banner appeared on reset, bug! no reason to pull right now though since I have all story identities, gonna check if they add the event (doubtful) or if that last banner is a story one.
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given the schedule probably one more set.  if we assume they're listing the event banner under hell's chicken then there's another banner separate from hell's chicken at the start of may. then we get chapter 4 part 1 and season 2 starts, and presumably the new event banner will be chapter 4 themed.
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hm. patch might need another patch. beat the first railway fight, screen went black and had to reboot the game. probably a one-off, but we'll see
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Tingtang Hong Lu has gotten way better since they increased the coin odds on high SP. Weird to see meme man actually good rather than just very funny! I'd say he's still around average outside of a farming context because Gloom is so rare that he basically doesn't have a Zayin EGO, but he's definitely worth using in Luxcavations and Mirror Dungeon now.
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Oh, now that I realize, which identities besides R Heathcliff are used to speedrun Mirror Dungeon? Since now I have him.
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helpful reminder that mirror dungeons get you more thread (or egoshards) per module than running thread dungeon past dailies thread per real life minute spent? less so, but that's why God and Steve Wozniak invented alt tab
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specifically three modules for four-plus-ish shards for a toon of your choice (7 battle pass ticks, you get six-ish shards at 10)
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Google Jeb Bush posted:helpful reminder that mirror dungeons get you more thread (or egoshards) per module than running thread dungeon past dailies i don't care i'm not doing calendar or robots manually ever again
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I imagine Thread issues will go away for quite a while when the season ends and we get the great auto-conversion, especially with new thread drops on the new Battle Pass. The question is whether Railway 2 will be right before season end, to motivate you to use what you've got. GiantRockFromSpace posted:Oh, now that I realize, which identities besides R Heathcliff are used to speedrun Mirror Dungeon? Since now I have him. R Corp Heathcliff, Tingtang Hong Lu, and Grip Faust are my starting three right now. There's probably a better third but the first two seem fairly set in stone. LCCB Ishmael and Kurokumo Hong Lu are good alternatives, and I usually grab G Corp Gregor as a fourth or fifth because his high attack value makes him very consistent and if you get a Sin resource item then Legerdemain speeds up the annoying end bosses (robots or calendar).
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:Oh, now that I realize, which identities besides R Heathcliff are used to speedrun Mirror Dungeon? Since now I have him. I like Kurokumo Hong Lu because his second ability will erase an enemy for most of the dungeon and the third isn't far behind. First is meh but whatever.
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