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Sunk Dunk posted:personally i think they should take it all the way to the supreme court I will accept this if it means we can see Carlos protest again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLdEng-aqvM I could watch this over and over.
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 01:43 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 23:51 |
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Gallant knights, and men-at-arms testing the limits of their skills, and the strength of their steeds at tournament, and the courtly intrigue of the noble houses that sponsor them. The majesty and drama of Formula 1.
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 06:11 |
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A 5 second penalty is kind of bullshit once you consider it was lap 1 turn 1 incident of a 2 lap race that was red flagged by turn 3 and then finished under a parade lap. They may as well have disqualified him.
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 06:41 |
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Toe Rag posted:A 5 second penalty is kind of bullshit once you consider it was lap 1 turn 1 incident of a 2 lap race that was red flagged by turn 3 and then finished under a parade lap. They may as well have disqualified him. Even more stupid that they rolled the race order back to before he caused the crash and then finished the GP. Him causing the crash literally affected nothing.
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 07:02 |
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Yeah they gave him a penalty for an incident that technically never happened. Should have put him back in 4th or whatever it was and then do the safety car procession to finish the race.
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 11:12 |
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tony quidtana posted:they have Stefan bradl but for whatever reason he rightfully doesn't want to jump off into the woodchipper that is riding that Honda through two races a weekend. Yeah, it's almost like he didn't enjoy travelling halfway around the world busting his semi-retired hump for 1 points scoring finish last year. harperdc posted:I don’t remember the wording specifically but for one or two rounds a team is allowed to not field a bike. So in this case Repsol Honda can keep Marquez out from Argentina and bring him back for COTA. It's a surprise you need rules though. You'd think it'd be in their interests to have a bike out there.
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 12:10 |
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Toe Rag posted:A 5 second penalty is kind of bullshit once you consider it was lap 1 turn 1 incident of a 2 lap race that was red flagged by turn 3 and then finished under a parade lap. They may as well have disqualified him. It only finished on a parade lap because he braked too late to make the corner and caused a huge accident. Yeah, they may as well have disqualified him. poo poo happens when you start pit maneuvering other cars (unless you are lewis hamilton at silverstone).
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 12:47 |
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Canadians love their Hondas I guess
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 14:23 |
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acidx posted:It only finished on a parade lap because he braked too late to make the corner and caused a huge accident. Yeah, they may as well have disqualified him. poo poo happens when you start pit maneuvering other cars (unless you are lewis hamilton at silverstone). Idk I watched the replay of it last night and it doesn’t look that bad. Alonso squares off the corner which is why he and Sainz touched. A racing incident I think. Gasly and Sargent are the reasons it was red flagged.
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 15:40 |
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Sainz should know it's a 5 second penalty, because that's the penalty given to Russell for doing that poo poo to Sainz at COTA last year.
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 16:44 |
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it wasn’t an egregious move but that’s also why it was just a 5 second penalty. them’s the brakes
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 16:49 |
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I liked Jolyon Palmer's analysis of the chaos. https://youtu.be/YPDNuxwD8-M Several contributing factors; cold tires, light fuel load, late-day sun right in the driver's faces, the pressure of knowing it's basically a 2-lap sprint race with no time to gain or recover any positions after the standing start. Basically a very high-stakes restart in unusual and challenging conditions. Gasly and Sainz both pretty majorly hosed up, braking too late into turn 1. Gasly came extremely close to rear-ending Alonso just before Sainz plowed into him. A pretty slam dunk 5 second penalty, he just got turbofucked by the race ending under safety car and getting dropped completely out of the points. Unfortunate, but not technically unfair. Only reason Gasly didn't get a penalty is because he hit his teammate. I think the most important point he makes is that the FIA need to be consistent about handling late race incidents: > Baku 2021 - red flag and 2 lap sprint. > Monza 2022 - safety car finish. > Australia 2023 - red flag and > Abu Dhabi 2021 - NO! Go put that can of worms somewhere it'll get lost and forgotten about! If they don't want the race to end under a safety car that's fine, but the handling of late race incidents needs to be more consistent, and communicated to the teams so they know what to expect. Also, Logan Sergeant, godDAMN what an embarrassing rookie moment. I think he avoided a penalty because the stewards were too embarrassed on his behalf just watching the replay.
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 17:47 |
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acidx posted:It only finished on a parade lap because he braked too late to make the corner and caused a huge accident. Yeah, they may as well have disqualified him. poo poo happens when you start pit maneuvering other cars (unless you are lewis hamilton at silverstone). How come Max never gets DQ’d when he has made that his entire strategy over the past 5 years?
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 19:13 |
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FIA bias
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 19:33 |
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Just end under safety car imo it's fine
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 20:36 |
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Personal Lucubrant posted:I liked Jolyon Palmer's analysis of the chaos. https://youtu.be/YPDNuxwD8-M doing a standing start in the last 10 laps is idiotic
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 20:50 |
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I'm glad people are writing massive essays for what can be boiled down to the FIA/FOM having brain worms and their monkey brains going "standing starts good for TV". great use of time
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 20:57 |
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it was cool karun chandok said as much right afterward; if there hadn't been a crash, everyone would have thought it was great who cares about sunlight or light fuel or whatever. shut up about cold tires; that's the case after every safety car. these are professional drivers, they can handle it. that's what people always lean on to argue for wet standing starts, or racing in the wet in general. it was a fluke thing. if you want to prevent it in the future, ban all french drivers i guess
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 20:58 |
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Standing starts are cool and good and if you think otherwise you're probably a Ferrari fan/brain damaged.
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 21:07 |
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I don't mind finishing behind safety car. It's motor racing, it happens
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 21:45 |
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Any time max gets a 5 second lead the race should be red flagged and restarted with a standing start
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 22:02 |
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maintaining a gap larger than 5 seconds for more than 1 lap results in a 5 second penalty
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 22:09 |
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Arc Hammer posted:I'd be down for an honour duel between Tsunoda and Iwasa. And also Lawson now.
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 22:30 |
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ilmucche posted:I don't mind finishing behind safety car. It's motor racing, it happens Or maybe instead of a parade for three or four laps resulting in nothing, stop the race for a few minutes and have a standing start for three or four laps of awesome action?
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 23:09 |
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Frond posted:And also Lawson now. Like the konbini?
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 23:54 |
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tony quidtana posted:I'm glad people are writing massive essays for what can be boiled down to the FIA/FOM having brain worms and their monkey brains going "standing starts good for TV". great use of time I have gently caress all to do this weekend, and a bunch of dumbass ideas I've amalgamated from an array of idiots across the internet. Perhaps some from this very thread! Would you like to read some? > Only one practice session, but with points awarded. > Qualifying on Friday with points awarded. > Sprint race on Saturday to set GP grid order, and points awarded. > GP on Sunday with reversed grid order. > Points awarded for Driver of the Day. > Constructors championship points for fastest pitstop. > More points awarded for other arbitrary bullshit because slack-jawed dipshits like big numbers. More points! > Fan Boost like Formula E, but it gives 1 free DRS activation anywhere on track. > Let teams choose any of the current tire compounds instead of just the 3 Pirelli picks for the weekend. > Or, gently caress choices, and just mandate 1 rain and 2 slick compounds like IndyCar. > 36 GP weekends a year. More races = more points, win/win! Because gently caress work/life balance I guess. > Karts at Monaco. > Competition cautions. > A Bristol dirt race, gently caress it. Mostly taking the piss. How about some stupid ideas about qualifying? > A "one-shot" sort of qualifying session, but only 1 team on track at once. > Each team has 8 minutes total for both drivers to put in their best times. (~2 hour broadcast maybe?) > Qualifying order randomized for round 1. > Qualifying order in subsequent rounds goes in order of constructor's championship standing. Would it be cool to see each team with an opportunity for clean air and their drivers taking turns towing each other? That might just result in every team getting their own row of the grid. Maybe reduce the time limit to ~5 minutes to only allow enough time to set up 1 car for a tow on a hot lap? Also some drama if competitive teammates refuse to cooperate. Maybe just 1 car at once with a 3-4 minute time limit to avoid towing strategy/drama altogether? Aside from weird weather shenanigans, qualifying later in the session on a more developed track is usually better, right? For round 1 the order could be random, or the previous season's constructor rank or something. Points leaders qualifying first might give lower ranked drivers/teams an opportunity to shake up the starting grid a little. To be clear, I think the current qualifying format is fine, and there's no reason to change it. My ideas are probably r-worded because I started following F1 in 2019 after binge-watching the first season of DTS. Like I said, I have gently caress all to do today. Literally just killing time. Like, murdering it, and desecrating the corpse. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 23:58 |
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Yeah those are all gold.
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# ? Apr 9, 2023 00:09 |
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Half the cars go normal direction, half the cars go reverse.
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# ? Apr 9, 2023 00:10 |
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Single car qualifying runs into the problem of wet sessions where oops, one car got a dry lap and everyone else had damp/rain conditions. Pretty sure that happened at least a few times when single lap was the format in early 2000s
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# ? Apr 9, 2023 00:13 |
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Just trying to get out in front of it.
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# ? Apr 9, 2023 00:14 |
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Personal Lucubrant posted:
he'll yeah missing "trackside sprinklers activated by live fan vote" though
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# ? Apr 9, 2023 00:17 |
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the milk machine posted:he'll yeah They're trialling that in Miami this year
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# ? Apr 9, 2023 00:28 |
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ilmucche posted:Single car qualifying runs into the problem of wet sessions where oops, one car got a dry lap and everyone else had damp/rain conditions. Pretty sure that happened at least a few times when single lap was the format in early 2000s KMag was on pole in Sao Paulo last year because of rain, but yeah, I see your point. The stars had to align to make that happen.
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# ? Apr 9, 2023 02:12 |
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Personal Lucubrant posted:I have gently caress all to do this weekend, and a bunch of dumbass ideas I've amalgamated from an array of idiots across the internet. Perhaps some from this very thread! Would you like to read some? imagine having Tony post lengths without Tony energy. Sad.
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# ? Apr 9, 2023 03:07 |
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drat imagine if there was a race right now
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# ? Apr 9, 2023 08:27 |
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Serjeant Buzfuz posted:Or maybe instead of a parade for three or four laps resulting in nothing, stop the race for a few minutes and have a standing start for three or four laps of awesome action? NASCAR stages
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# ? Apr 9, 2023 08:55 |
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I'm sure that kind of poo poo is on the way. I'm amazed we've not had a playoff system like Nascar yet.
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# ? Apr 9, 2023 11:15 |
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LOCK HIM UP
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# ? Apr 9, 2023 11:36 |
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1. EU grand prix is good and should be on the calendar 2. Lol how did they not red flag this 3. Cars should be allowed to be put back on the track with the big tractors to continue racing like Hamilton did in this race e: nvm they red flagged it after the cars stopped crashing lol
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https://twitter.com/txtfromclassics/status/1644985439827415040
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