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Leperflesh posted:I had a site last week that was rejecting my passwords until I realized that when it said "one special character" it meant exactly one, not two or more. Gaaaah I hate that poo poo. The worst is when it doesn't tell you what the requirements are up front and then just says "does not meet complexity requirements" without explanation. My last job had a number of accounts I needed that pulled poo poo like this, so my password would be, like, Some7NorMalPassword77777777% as I flailed to find something it would accept.
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On the other hand I regularly speak to customers who say stuff like "I can't reset my password, it gives me an error message that says don't use lower case characters!" and I ask "did you use lower case characters?" and they proudly reply "yup!"
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Leperflesh posted:and all of them remember your last few so you can't keep using them Sure you can. There is almost never a minimum time enforced between password changes, so if you want to keep using the same one but it remembers the last six then just change your password seven times in a row and make the last one the one you started with. Now this kind of supposes that you have a good strong password and are doing everything else right but just have an asinine password expiration policy, so it may be a terrible idea depending on the circumstances.
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Midjack posted:Sure you can. There is almost never a minimum time enforced between password changes, so if you want to keep using the same one but it remembers the last six then just change your password seven times in a row and make the last one the one you started with. Now this kind of supposes that you have a good strong password and are doing everything else right but just have an asinine password expiration policy, so it may be a terrible idea depending on the circumstances. yeah, but we have a centralized system for changing passwords that goes through some kind of semi-automated approval process (there's even a "justification" field) because it's the same system used for requesting/granting access to things; so each password reset takes a bit to go through, and generates an email. I haven't tested it but I suspect it also tries to prevent you from changing the same password seven times in a day. Maybe I'll try that out.
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My company (a large S&P500 company) is so backwards with password security it's infuriating. We need no less than 5 log-ins for various systems within our company, passwords that need to change every month or so (roughly, there seems to be no reason to it although I'm sure there is) and different log-ins for various other vendor related websites we need to use. So I have log-ins that are: Alphanumeric employee # A different variation of our employee # last name/first initial first initial/last name first initial/last name@domain.com - this is especially rich because it's not even a real email we use They will NOT allow us to use a password manager. It's literally forcing people (even non-olds) to write passwords down on a pad next to their desk. They recently in their wisdom decided that "hey, maybe with these 5 log-ins we need, we can share passwords between them" even if the log-in names themselves are not the same. So that's a work in progress. I swear, they're literally going out of their way to create potential security problems. Maybe it's a job security thing for them 
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Funny enough, I think it was in the 90s or so that the US government first started suggesting password expiration policies based on what one manager thought was common sense. Much research has been done on its effectiveness since then, and now the guidance is to recommend against using password expiration, password complexity, and certain kinds of "security questions" that use information that is readily available. https://pages.nist.gov/800-63-FAQ/#q-b05 Along the same vein, using multi-factor authentication (where your password is used along with something else, like a code generated on your phone) is a big recommendation but is much harder to implement on legacy systems. Two other recommendations are to check passwords against known bad passwords (those involved in a data breach) and to check account activity closely and require a password change if the behavior is weird.
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DicktheCat posted:Literally every basic cybersecurity thing is "staff will not ask you for your password, keep up with your password". I feel I should point out that technical services isn't technical support, at least in my case. We just catalog and process books. They were asking the folks who put stickers on the books to help them with their password, which, uh, I cannot help them with. My library system lost out tech support to the county government a few years back, so now we have to ask county OIT to help us, and most of them are like "WTF is this library poo poo?" They wanted to take my department too, because they heard "technical" and my department head to explain that, no, it's technical as in skilled in a trade, not technical as in technology. I don't think the government needs a whole team of professional sticker-putter-on-ers. Or adhesive label application technicians if you like.
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TBF library IT is a whole 'nother issue. Weirdoes in public libraries, indeed. Every so often there are good graybeards who have it as a retirement job for the health insurance, or folks with newly minted degrees who want to get some experience before chasing the six figure jobs. Then they face the toxic lifers and either find another job, burn the gently caress out, or become one of them.
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I would never forget technical services, because you dweebs would take three or four weeks to intake a new journal issue with a catalog entry stretching back decades, and my rear end at the circ desk has to explain to faculty why they're not getting their requested articles any time soon. Not bitter.
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Leperflesh posted:There's something special and different about numbers. Yeah. It's that they literally reverse themselves. (I have dyscalcula- I do not know why I see numbers wrong but not letters, do not ask me. Yes, long strings of numbers and our reliance on them has done me no favors, thanks!)
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So the other day my library got an inter-library loan from Harvard university. It was a 150-year-old book on naval architecture and it was HUGE. Here it is in the package it came in; Thing was 3'x3' or something. It was also very fragile so we asked the patron if he would just use it in the library, but he said he knew what he was getting into and had special equipment to use/scan/read the book. Edit: changed scar to scan.... The_Other fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Mar 23, 2023 |
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The_Other posted:
...scar? Seems a bit...honest about his intentions there.
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The_Other posted:So the other day my library got an inter-library loan from Harvard university. It was a 150-year-old book on naval architecture and it was HUGE. Here it is in the package it came in; 
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In our system the lending library specifies whether they want a book to be reading room only. If Harvard doesn't bother they only have themselves to blame.
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/shoves Birds of America into his grimy backpack
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I remember getting a journal of a politician from the late 1800s and the ILL form said that damage or losing it would incur a $250 fine. So, rather than take my chances, I photocopied the entire thing and handed it back in.
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I'm going to the library later, what would the thread advice be to be a weirdo there
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Look at some porno on the computers.
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Sit on the floor and pour yourself a bowl of cereal. (Note: I did not make this up).
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Other ways to be weird that have been tried successfully where I work: Ask for books on how to do time travel. Touch a staff person to demonstrate the mystical powers you received after a stroke. Climb a bookshelf to hide something in the ceiling tiles. Wear a bag of your head to hide your identity. Be sure to wear your glasses on the outside of the bag. I could go on, but this should be enough to get you started.
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mercenarynuker posted:I'm going to the library later, what would the thread advice be to be a weirdo there Cook up some grilled cheese bookmarks
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Be an adult without a kid on a computer in the children's room
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Do you need a haircut? It is cheaper if you do it yourself!
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Rabe Radbury posted:…. Bonus: these two can be used anywhere!
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As soon as I started my shift today, had a guy (among other things) try to give me a full wind up punch to the head, made vague that's about seeing me outside, and said he wished he could enslave me (?). My offending action? I asked him to wear headphones to listen to music in the library. Maybe don't be that kind of weirdo if you can avoid it, thanks
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Headphones are tyranny and oppression.
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withak posted:Headphones are tyranny and oppression. Sorry to be the one who has to tell you this, but no one else wants to hear you listening to that podcast/screamo music/weird YouTube asmr/porn in public. Either put headphones on, like the rest of us, or don't play audio in public spaces.
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withak posted:Headphones are tyranny and oppression. So you’re the bastard sitting behind me on the tram right now.
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Classic Weirdo In Library encounter last week: I'm dashing between tasks but get stopped by a patron exclaiming,  "Hey! I'm looking for a history lesson!" "Oh! Well, our local history section is right over this way, what-" "Yeah I heard about the french and the spanish and some skedaddle, and what I want to know is, who was the king?" "Okay sir, you're talking about a couple different times and places, let me get you to those books and-" "You guys have a nice little town here, lovely people, only been here two days so far. Met a nice old couple, just walked up to their door and knocked, we had a great conversation until their son showed up and harrassed me. Said stuff like 'Who are you, what are you doing in my parent's house, don't make me call the cops'." "Err, that does sound like a lot. Here's the best book on our towns hist..." "I should stop day-drinking"I left him there with a few books before I laughed at the whole situation Triskelli fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Mar 30, 2023 |
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Triskelli posted:
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Wudz posted:As soon as I started my shift today, had a guy (among other things) try to give me a full wind up punch to the head, made vague that's about seeing me outside, and said he wished he could enslave me (?). Why are dudes like this? It could just be my luck, but it always seems to be men in specific that do the speaker thing with music, while women seem to just converse loudly on speakerphone when they're rude with sound. Working with the public in any capacity became much worse with the advent of speakerphone on cell phones and affordable bluetooth speakers. I just don't get the mindset of intentionally being disruptive. Why?
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DicktheCat posted:I just don't get the mindset of intentionally being disruptive. Why?
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CynCyanide posted:I feel I should point out that technical services isn't technical support, at least in my case. We just catalog and process books. They were asking the folks who put stickers on the books to help them with their password, which, uh, I cannot help them with. LMAO, since I posted this, my supervisor announced at a department meeting that they're going to change the name of the department to be "Cataloging and Processing" because they're tired of the branch staff not knowing what the gently caress we do.
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Men interrupt libraries like THIS while women interrupt libraries like THIS.
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I have avoided posting in this thread because I have a bad addiction. I am addicted to Graf Von Faber Castell, Cross, and Visconti pens. Here is my current setup. 
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Zesty posted:Men interrupt libraries like THIS while women interrupt libraries like THIS. Nah it’s socialization and it’s real.
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Zesty posted:Men interrupt libraries like THIS while women interrupt libraries like THIS. You have to very intentionally and aggressively be reading into what I said to take it as some reddit incel bullshit. I don't know how you identify, and don't care, but it's pretty goddamned rich for a trans dude to be painted as some  loving shithead for discussing how people are socialized to be dicks in differing ways. It's not like a topic I would research and be introspective on.  It's not like I've spent time dreading closing time because I'm scared some angry dude is going to be waiting for me with a gun over music or coupons or turning his number down or something.
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Our local library has a great kids section but is there a reason lift the flap books for toddlers aren’t more common? Do they just get destroyed too fast?
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Our local library has a great kids section but is there a reason lift the flap books for toddlers aren’t more common? Do they just get destroyed too fast? Yes. I mend books for a public library and our board books disintegrate really fast, especially ones with moving parts. Granted, we have a lot of families with young children at my branch.
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