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skooma512 posted:Also California's power infrastructure regularly hits its breaking point every summer. I'm not sure how having a steel mill on every other corner is going to work? Seems more feasible than trying to charge EVs at night with solar
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Apr 8, 2023 22:36
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financial capitalism is not capable of building out the charging network required for mass EV adoption, in 20 years there will be deserts full of unsellable EVs just rotting because capital is unable to make any infrastructure anymore
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Apr 8, 2023 22:54
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they have no plan for how to charge EVs at home if you don't have indoor parking
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Apr 8, 2023 23:00
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actionjackson posted:they have no plan for how to charge EVs at home if you don't own a detached one lol They do have a plan. the plan is to let the private sector figure it out
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Apr 8, 2023 23:02
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Wonder if there will be a market for EV conversion kits in the form of hubmotors (or using the existing drivetrain; hubmotors have some disadvantages despite being simple) and drop in battery modules that go in your trunk/engine compartment if the all-in cost of the kit + installation/labor is under, say, 10k People already do EV conversions using junkyard Tesla or Hyundai motors/batteries but it's all very junkyard DIY at this point.
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Apr 8, 2023 23:05
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Standardized batteries that can be swapped out at a station like riders used to change horses Japan's motorcycle companies standardized on a battery form factor and self-serve swapping station, so that at least has already happened, but the car solution is still unsolved (ban cars) e: this thing E4C85D38 has issued a correction as of 23:15 on Apr 8, 2023 |
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Apr 8, 2023 23:07
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Shear Modulus posted:They do have a plan. the plan is to let the private sector figure it out That and keep moving the deadline back.
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Apr 8, 2023 23:13
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a competent goverment would have had hearings on the state of fortune cookies these days
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Apr 8, 2023 23:23
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/abcnews/status/1644464382968209408?t=71ueuEm0fwr8ofnyJY-5xw&s=19  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vhzDS9Xpno
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Apr 8, 2023 23:52
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sullat posted:Yeah we had a city council woman who was all about bike and bus infrastructure and so the NIMBY crowd came out and voted her out. we need to abolish any government and legal structures below the nation level. your small city isn't special and doesn't need its own laws
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Apr 8, 2023 23:58
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...=uverify%20wall Making $100,000 in New York feels like $36,000. Best you can do is Tennessee where it is $86,000
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Apr 8, 2023 23:59
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where's pittsburgh on the list
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Apr 9, 2023 00:02
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Bar Ran Dun posted:they’re going to ban the sale of new non EV/Hybrids. This is also already happening, there is a already in place deadline in California of 2035. the EPA is also about to issue emissions rules that will practically make that the case nation wide. not a chance. the automakers already basically stopped making cars so they could make trucks and suvs to skirt emissions laws. there will never be regulation that even threatens profitability in any industry in america ever again. the economics of evs don’t work.
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Apr 9, 2023 00:07
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Fozzy The Bear posted:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...=uverify%20wall *goonishly* theyre all computor janitors complaining about making SIX (6) FIGURES crying and pizzing and shidding their pants that they cant afford treats anymore, im doing just fine in bumfuck iowa on a 20,000 paycheck living in my moms basement seriously though someone posted the other day about how boise idaho of all places has insane median home prices and it's like, what the hell are we doing here, the economy is massive and corporations are making record profits and every year after loving year life is getting objectively worse and harder now we've got AI bullshit on top of it all and a bunch of tech evangels are going on about how it's going to bring about a new revolution in humanity but, like, how's that gonna help the lady working full time retail barely surviving (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Justin Tyme has issued a correction as of 00:10 on Apr 9, 2023 |
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Apr 9, 2023 00:07
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quote:Nice strawman. User loses posting privileges for 6 hours.
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Apr 9, 2023 00:16
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lol is there a big automaker not building a major battery plant right now? there might not be one!
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Apr 9, 2023 00:19
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Bar Ran Dun posted:again I’m not opining. didn't read
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Apr 9, 2023 00:20
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lol even shitbucket Nissan https://www.wardsauto.com/vehicles/nissan-ups-its-ev-target-plans-second-us-battery-plant
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Apr 9, 2023 00:22
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tristeham posted:didn't read I know right my, but my I’m watching this happen in person, don’t seem to sink in for y’all though.
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Apr 9, 2023 00:24
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:buddy... you're spinning your wheels. you'll never convince them that good things are possible, and might in fact be happening. and on the off chance that you did, they would come up with some insane reason that said good things are actually bad, or that the bad outweighs the good while evs are definitely going to sweep over the next 10 years, and theyre less bad than ice cars, heyre still really bad lmao "good things" would be destroying highway infrastructure entirely
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Apr 9, 2023 00:26
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Bar Ran Dun posted:y’all
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Apr 9, 2023 00:27
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Justin Tyme posted:*goonishly* theyre all computor janitors complaining about making SIX (6) FIGURES crying and pizzing and shidding their pants that they cant afford treats anymore, im doing just fine in bumfuck iowa on a 20,000 paycheck living in my moms basement all the tech shitheads moved to boise america needs a hukou system but for professions, if you're a software engineer sorry you're only allowed to live in certain cities
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Apr 9, 2023 00:31
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Shipon posted:i'm not sure where the pushback to you is coming from, it’s very bad for Russia lol because it’s going gently caress up the international oil trade. The Chinese are selling us all these factories and will benefit from a big drop in us demand for oil. But it’s terrible news for Russia and the Saudis. it’s also runs counter to the but we are setting up a an alternative to the petro-dollar narrative. because that’s about to matter a whole lot less.
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Apr 9, 2023 00:39
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EVs are just kicking the can down the road instead of focusing on dense urban infrastructure serviced by robust public transit. And possibly starting degrowth.
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Apr 9, 2023 00:40
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apatheticman posted:EVs are just kicking the can down the road instead of focusing on dense urban infrastructure serviced by robust public transit.
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Apr 9, 2023 00:42
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apatheticman posted:EVs are just kicking the can down the road instead of focusing on dense urban infrastructure serviced by robust public transit.
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Apr 9, 2023 00:43
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Mr Hootington posted:Yes bar we get it. Capitalism marches on and is the greatest government system ever. I don’t care about that. I think it’s dumb to pretend things that are definitely happening, are not. I’m contemptuous of folks doing that.
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Apr 9, 2023 00:44
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Shipon posted:There isn't a (non poor) country on earth that doesn't have a sizeable automobile base, even places with the best public transit infrastructure like Tokyo or Amsterdam. Are you gonna keep those on combustion engines with all of the fossil fuel dependence and local air quality problems they entail? They haven't been around that long. Mistakes can be reversed. Abort cars.
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Apr 9, 2023 00:47
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Bar Ran Dun posted:I don’t care about that. Ok
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Apr 9, 2023 00:48
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Shipon posted:There isn't a (non poor) country on earth that doesn't have a sizeable automobile base, even places with the best public transit infrastructure like Tokyo or Amsterdam. Are you gonna keep those on combustion engines with all of the fossil fuel dependence and local air quality problems they entail? If you build the right infrastructure, people automatically look to get rid of their cars when they don't need them. Supplement that with a car share situation for people who need to make long hauls. You'll have significantly less car ownership. Cars are a depreciating asset, suck to insure, suck to maintain, suck to drive in a big city, and suck to store in a big city.
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Apr 9, 2023 00:50
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Shipon posted:all the tech shitheads moved to boise no. All the retired Californian boomers moved to Boise. I made an effort post about this a few days ago.
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Apr 9, 2023 00:51
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how the gently caress is that hellapp still around? https://twitter.com/JimBourke/status/1644324544273076226?t=yBtHSoxvqPniyYcf3IorTA&s=19
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Apr 9, 2023 00:51
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/abcnews/status/1644464382968209408?t=71ueuEm0fwr8ofnyJY-5xw&s=19 its only fair somebody gotta pay for that ~$400 billion submarine scam
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Apr 9, 2023 00:54
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Shipon posted:There isn't a (non poor) country on earth that doesn't have a sizeable automobile base, even places with the best public transit infrastructure like Tokyo or Amsterdam. Are you gonna keep those on combustion engines with all of the fossil fuel dependence and local air quality problems they entail? switching them to EVs just shifts the fossil fuel dependence and local air quality problems to where they're built and where the metal for batteries is mined, plus half of the local air quality issues are the tiny pieces of rubber that fly off tires which EVs still have, the only way is to get rid of cars completely which we won't do til it's far too late so we're all just hosed
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Apr 9, 2023 00:54
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apatheticman posted:If you build the right infrastructure, people automatically look to get rid of their cars when they don't need them. Maed posted:switching them to EVs just shifts the fossil fuel dependence and local air quality problems to where they're built and where the metal for batteries is mined, plus half of the local air quality issues are the tiny pieces of rubber that fly off tires which EVs still have, the only way is to get rid of cars completely which we won't do til it's far too late so we're all just hosed
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Apr 9, 2023 00:55
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Shipon posted:Significantly less is not zero. What about delivery people? What are they gonna do, take a bunch of boxes with them on the train or bus? all the delivery people in nyc use bikes or electric bikes, you're a loving idiot
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Apr 9, 2023 00:56
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