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Beeswax posted:I've known a couple of people who worked at Migrationsverket over the years, and they were both very open-border style lefties. Seemed quite stressful lmao
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Every major party in Sweden are fascist dipshits and/or incompetent morons.
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I've been voting S since I was old enough to vote. In 2017, I decided to start voting V because their views more aligned with my own. But lately they've been kind of ehhh.. I don't have the right words for it. I have a lot of vulnerable friends. Who depends on the S status quo to keep SD from ruining their lives. And I'm a bit vulnerable myself. But V have been kind of jumping up and down in the boat, humiliating S, and they were also very questionable in their handling of the Ukraine war. I mostly agree with them. But they also concern me. I don't have the words for it.
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BonHair posted:Probably a combination of migrationsverket not being 100% racism but also some classic bureaucracy, well maintained registers of who officially lives in Sweden and Sweden being fairly good to live in as an English speaker.
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In theory I agree with a lot of what V wants, and they definitely seem to be interested in leftist principles, instead of morphing into a lovely neolib amalgam like S have, but have you seen their official website where they talk about their views and what they want to achieve and how they're going to do it? It's all just "we want the best for everyone <3" as a response to every question with no concrete plans of action or anything practical at all. It's embarrassing.
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Feliday Melody posted:I've been voting S since I was old enough to vote. In 2017, I decided to start voting V because their views more aligned with my own. This is very confusing for someone living in DK.
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Rust Martialis posted:This is very confusing for someone living in DK. Actually it's probably not too uncommon, V and S are basically the same, except one pays more lip service to working class people. But yeah, calling the liberal party "Venstre" is weird. The Radical Left being shitlibs is funnier though.
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BonHair posted:Actually it's probably not too uncommon, V and S are basically the same, except one pays more lip service to working class people. In Denmark, S was the Slesvigsk Parti. 
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Rust Martialis posted:In Denmark, S was the Slesvigsk Parti. I wish for a Västkustsktpartiet (Vsksktp)
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A Buttery Pastry posted:It's actually because they're evolved their racism to the point that the British are seen as non-white. full circle. or half of one, i guess
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BonHair posted:Actually it's probably not too uncommon, V and S are basically the same, except one pays more lip service to working class people. Nowadays it's just a good reminder that a party that calls itself a left-win party but has right-wing policies can't be trusted.
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Feliday Melody posted:I've been voting S since I was old enough to vote. In 2017, I decided to start voting V because their views more aligned with my own. Feel similar about the left in Finland and I vote SDP mostly. I feel I mostly agree with them, but they also concern me. For my part though it's the urban / rural divide. Like while I agree with most of their politics, I don't think if they are friendly to rural areas in the slightest. Based on what I read online from leftist voters in leftist spaces, I think we're pretty much despised in general. So I vote SDP.
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BonHair posted:Actually it's probably not too uncommon, V and S are basically the same, except one pays more lip service to working class people. It's not that weird if you know where the term originated, but then I have met adults who genuinely thought "venstreorienteret" meant "Venstre voter".
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Beeswax posted:I've known a couple of people who worked at Migrationsverket over the years, and they were both very open-border style lefties. Seemed quite stressful Guess it’s like people getting educated to be a vet, not realising that your day job most likely will consist of mostly euthanizing cute pet animals
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More like studying sociology and then realising that you have limited job opportunities/that you can actually make a difference to individuals within the system. One of the aforementioned people was working there during the Syrian migrant crisis and was basically working around the clock to find ways to grant people residence permits.
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Feliday Melody posted:
I left V when I was younger because they had a ton of problems with antisemitism in the israel/palestine question. It could never be brought up, especially if said problem came from racialised muslims. I was planning to vote for them this year but their handling of Ukraine was shameful. In general V is a party I align with on most issues, same as basically every S voter. V's problem isnt their stance on the issues, it is that the party is full of morons who should not be trusted with governing anything more complicated than an ABF study circle. Most people just don't trust them; Ukraine I'm afraid just reminded us why.
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:I left V when I was younger because they had a ton of problems with antisemitism in the israel/palestine question. It could never be brought up, especially if said problem came from racialised muslims. At the time I was like "I get it, I get it. I really do. NATO is guilty of a lot of stuff. Glass house and whatever. But Russia is performing mass murder over there. This is not the time"
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Exactly. And while NATO has been a massive fiasco in its own right, it was still the right descision at the time. Hindsight is 20/20 and all that. Still, I must admit I smirk a bit when I watch the ongoing trainwreck which was supposed to be the biggest political win for M and L in foreign policy since joining the EU. And a good chunk of it is because they cozied up to SD and their crowd.
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I'm an old school lefty from way back. I agree with V, the left-wing party, in principle, but how do we get there? They're not serious. I want every thing V wants but how do we get there? I think we have to consider voting for parties that win and get things done. The Social Democrats have done a lot. Who else can you vote for? Don't take this the wrong way, but you are a naive fool if you vote for Vansterpartiet.
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Libya will probably get over it, no sense crying over spilt milk.
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Apr 9, 2023 04:16
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It's that time of the year again - https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/jlgKdq/bonde-fikk-nok-stoppet-russebuss-med-traktor
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Wibla posted:It's that time of the year again - https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/jlgKdq/bonde-fikk-nok-stoppet-russebuss-med-traktor 
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Jon Pod Van Damm posted:I'm an old school lefty from way back. I agree with V, the left-wing party, in principle, but how do we get there? They're not serious. I want every thing V wants but how do we get there? I think we have to consider voting for parties that win and get things done. The Social Democrats have done a lot. Who else can you vote for? Don't take this the wrong way, but you are a naive fool if you vote for Vansterpartiet. V is never going to actually end up in charge, but more votes for V might mean that S realizes that they have to move to the left for once.
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Mymla posted:V is never going to actually end up in charge, but more votes for V might mean that S realizes that they have to move to the left for once. I worry more that more influence for V is going to get S to cooperate with C and one day a supposedly "New L"
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 78 år siden i dag.
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Alhazred posted:78 år siden i dag. 1940?
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Rust Martialis posted:1940? Regna feil, litt eldre enn det.
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Invasionen af Danmark og Norge begyndte for 83 år siden.
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EDIT: Don't know how this post happened.
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Wibla posted:It's that time of the year again - https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/jlgKdq/bonde-fikk-nok-stoppet-russebuss-med-traktor that farmer is my hero these buses can’t disappear from the face of the earth quick enough
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I have no loving clue what that article is about, I'm choosing to believe the farmer stopped a bus full of Russians. EDIT: Unrelated. Suck my entire rear end in a top hat, vultures. 
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Wibla posted:It's that time of the year again - https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/jlgKdq/bonde-fikk-nok-stoppet-russebuss-med-traktor Provade Google translate för ingen aning vad en russebuss är. quote:- Fått nog
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It’s when the last year students rent a bus and go around being drunk and obnoxious if I remember from Skam correctly
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zokie posted:It’s when the last year students rent a bus and go around being drunk and obnoxious if I remember from Skam correctly For two months...
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Never seen Skam either. But I prefer living in a world where it was russians.
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norway, building on a similar thing in denmark, has a tradition where people finishing up their secondary education dress up in uniforms and party, do various rituals, perform challenges etc. it's morphed a lot over the years and has now become big business, with the purchase, refurbishment and decoration of large party buses being a big deal. i'm old enough that this was a rarity when i was russ - most people were still buying beater cars and doing a fair amount of work on their own, with the busses being a sort of posh-boy phenomenon. now it's a deeply ingrained part of russ culture. it adds a ton of social stress to the kids because getting on a buss is such a clear sign that you're "in" or "out", and it is very expensive (as is a lot of modern russ stuff). the buses are a nuisance and complete conspicuous-consumption stuff. they make a lot of unpredictable noise and depending on where you live add a risk of suddenly disgorging a bunch of drunken eighteen-or-nineteen-year-olds onto your lawn where they will puke and piss the place down. generally, the russ celebration is probably due a bit of a revision - i remember it being a lot of fun and a good time, but the costs are getting to be a bit much imo
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V. Illych L. posted:norway, building on a similar thing in denmark, has a tradition where people finishing up their secondary education dress up in uniforms and party, do various rituals, perform challenges etc. The Norwegian trend of spending like 1,5 million DKK on buying and refurbish a bus is just nuts. Even more so because the rental prices actually appear to be a decent bit lower than in Denmark. Though rental prices might be lower per day because the Norwegian tradition includes multi-day celebrations.(?)
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i think it's connected with the general nouveau-richeness of norwegian society. the people who set the cultural tone until fairly recently grew up in the shadow of the war, occupation and post-war period, so this sort of display of excess seems to have been more taboo. a lot of the challenges are also straightforward goofy fun, like going for a swim when it's cold or wearing loaves of bread for shoes for a day. prior to the streamlining of norwegian secondary education there also used to be a bit of real rivalry between the different "colours" (people who went to mercantile schools would be blue, people who went to academic gymnas would be red, etc) which would mobilise some jingoism on the part of the different russ groups and was, again, straight-up fun. this was very much on its way out when i did it, and i think that there are now no mercantile secondary education schools left outside of maybe one or two posho schools in oslo. so there's a lot of hype, with companies with a profit motive to maximise that hype, in a situation where a lot of the cultural restraints on exaggerated spending are very loose. it means that something which i think can and should be a fun, positive thing for society gets a very ugly sheen to it.
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