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Beeftweeter posted:ah yeah it was different Re the spoiler: lol, get hosed with that bullshit - again! Goddamn Matalas, find a new trick.
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Mr. Apollo posted:I like how Troi said “whatever is through that door, you will not be alone” and then after she opens the door she runs away leaving Jack alone. After 30 years, I'd expect literally nothing less from Deanna Troi 
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Apr 9, 2023 05:35
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Mr. Apollo posted:I like how Troi said “whatever is through that door, you will not be alone” and then after she opens the door she runs away leaving Jack alone. Yeah, he won't be alone. He'll have whatever horrifying thing he finds beyond the door to keep him company. Troi is the season's true big bad, this is just the next step of her master plan to scare Riker back into normal domestic life, but maybe without the cottagecore aesthetic.
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Apr 9, 2023 05:48
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Beeftweeter posted:ah yeah it was different She saw his anime body pillow collection
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Mr. Apollo posted:I like how Troi said “whatever is through that door, you will not be alone” and then after she opens the door she runs away leaving Jack alone. She opened the door and all she saw was Lwaxana
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Apr 9, 2023 06:15
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Mr. Apollo posted:I like how Troi said “whatever is through that door, you will not be alone” and then after she opens the door she runs away leaving Jack alone. She saw a Picard Season 4 I would run too
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Apr 9, 2023 06:39
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Man, the "joke" about Deanna banging the changeling might have worked with the lines in the reverse order. "I can't really read changelings, so I knew immediately he wasn't you. Plus he was good at making pizza and bad in bed."
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Apr 9, 2023 06:50
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Facebook Aunt posted:They are Augments. It is well established that humans can't make Augments without loving it up and making people with major brain problems. The changeling augments are hosed up. I assume the ones in masks are even more hosed up and can't properly hold a coherent solid form at all, they are uggos like the hand-ler. But the masks are part of their bodies.
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CPColin posted:Man, the "joke" about Deanna banging the changeling might have worked with the lines in the reverse order. "I can't really read changelings, so I knew immediately he wasn't you. Plus he was good at making pizza and bad in bed." When Riker said "Just like me" i thought this was the original line. Then I realized they got it backwards.
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Timby posted:Also, reminder that the final two episodes are titled Vox and The Last Generation, and are directed by ... Terry Matalas, whose directing credits include four or five (largely mediocre) episodes of 12 Monkeys and ... that's it. Oh geeze, Vox, Latin for "voice," meanwhile Locutus is Latin for "one who speaks."
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Beeftweeter posted:ah yeah it was different Behind the red door, (I'm spoilering speculation because I'm including stuff from the clip) they're going to find Picard, dying. The past two seasons have all been a dream of the dying Picard, picking up directly from the end of season 1. He was never actually robotified and Riker managed to warp him home after the events of the episode, but he never gained consciousness. The cast of TNG is there and are trying to establish a connection with him to help him to move on from his life. Jack is Picard, and Troi is trying to reach out to him to calm him. The voices he hears are those of his friends around him mixed with voices from his past. He gets to wake up one last time and have a death scene with the TNG crew (including Data, who never actually wanted to die and was the one put in the golem body instead of Picard.) He dies at the end of the episode. The last episode will be Picard's funeral. Frontier Day is actually about (or is doubling as) honoring Picard for exploring the final frontier. Everybody is there, including most of Starfleet, the TNG cast, and the crew from season 1 and 2, none of which are dead, and Shaw for some reason, and after the funeral they'll all visit the Enterprise-D bridge set on a holodeck to reminisce. The last two seasons of the show will have essentially functioned as a long-term backdoor pilot for the show Matalas really wants to make, Star Trek: Legacy (basically the same as what happened with Discovery after Fuller left.) The reason everything has basically been on two sets this season is to save money for the expensive effects shots with all the ships in the finale, building the bridges of the Enterprise-D and the Titan-A/Stargazer (the latter in hopes they would be used in the spinoff), and for the cost of having such a large cast for the finale. The new show would be called Legacy because it is about honoring the legacy of those that have gone before or some such bullshit.
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pyrotek posted:Behind the red door, (I'm spoilering speculation because I'm including stuff from the clip) they're going to find Picard, dying. The past two seasons have all been a dream of the dying Picard, picking up directly from the end of season 1. He was never actually robotified and Riker managed to warp him home after the events of the episode, but he never gained consciousness. The cast of TNG is there and are trying to establish a connection with him to help him to move on from his life. Jack is Picard, and Troi is trying to reach out to him to calm him. The voices he hears are those of his friends around him mixed with voices from his past. He gets to wake up one last time and have a death scene with the TNG crew (including Data, who never actually wanted to die and was the one put in the golem body instead of Picard.) He dies at the end of the episode. nope it's riker on the holodeck again
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i think it's gonna open up to an enterprise-D corridor. these are the voyages part ii e: or a romulan holodeck lol
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pyrotek posted:Behind the red door, (I'm spoilering speculation because I'm including stuff from the clip) they're going to find Picard, dying. The past two seasons have all been a dream of the dying Picard, picking up directly from the end of season 1. He was never actually robotified and Riker managed to warp him home after the events of the episode, but he never gained consciousness. The cast of TNG is there and are trying to establish a connection with him to help him to move on from his life. Jack is Picard, and Troi is trying to reach out to him to calm him. The voices he hears are those of his friends around him mixed with voices from his past. He gets to wake up one last time and have a death scene with the TNG crew (including Data, who never actually wanted to die and was the one put in the golem body instead of Picard.) He dies at the end of the episode. It can’t be this because I actually kinda like it.
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The voice... Picard must defeat Locutus in a sing-off, improvising lyrics to the TNG theme
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Actual Satan posted:The voice...
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pyrotek posted:Behind the red door, (I'm spoilering speculation because I'm including stuff from the clip) they're going to find Picard, dying. The past two seasons have all been a dream of the dying Picard, picking up directly from the end of season 1. He was never actually robotified and Riker managed to warp him home after the events of the episode, but he never gained consciousness. The cast of TNG is there and are trying to establish a connection with him to help him to move on from his life. Jack is Picard, and Troi is trying to reach out to him to calm him. The voices he hears are those of his friends around him mixed with voices from his past. He gets to wake up one last time and have a death scene with the TNG crew (including Data, who never actually wanted to die and was the one put in the golem body instead of Picard.) He dies at the end of the episode. See I would like that and it'd make the past three season's stupidity acceptable, so it literally cannot be that. Much like my #1 wish for Q showing up was him retconning s1.
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Because the actor was so put off by season 2 the role of Q will be played by a sentient cloud.
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Boxturret posted:Because the actor was so put off by season 2 the role of Q will be played by a sentient cloud. Bring back the orb snakes! 
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I'm honestly surprised we haven't seen more full-CGI actor replacements for this kind of nostalgia bait stuff, especially niche cameos for actors who have died. Normally that would come across as fairly gauche, but... *gestures at everything* I don't think that would be a huge concern here. Pulling Mark Lenard or Andreas Katsulas out of the digital grave a la Peter Cushing would be entirely on-brand. Maybe it's still too expensive to do it well, IDK.
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Don't worry, William Shatner sold his digital likeness years ago. There's a reason Daystrom had his body.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Maybe it's still too expensive to do it well, IDK. It is for the money they're throwing at Picard, I think. It will not be in a few years.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:I'm honestly surprised we haven't seen more full-CGI actor replacements for this kind of nostalgia bait stuff, especially niche cameos for actors who have died. Normally that would come across as fairly gauche, but... *gestures at everything* I don't think that would be a huge concern here. Pulling Mark Lenard or Andreas Katsulas out of the digital grave a la Peter Cushing would be entirely on-brand. Maybe it's still too expensive to do it well, IDK. You need to keep your curses to yourself, unspoken
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Tars Tarkas posted:The borg queen replaced Picard's sperm with borg babies but he only had sex that one time so there is only Jack Crusher to worry about. Oh jeez, imagine if that was how borg assimilated people. That would be terrifying.
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Eight. Eight episodes into this poo poo fest and the big villain hasn't been revealed. I know it's been hammered to death in this thread by this point, but I just cannot wrap my head around how bad this has failed at basic story telling. New series proposal: Quarks. It's a complete rip off of Cheers with Quark running the bar. The series takes place entirely in the bar to save production costs.
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Deepfake Shatner teams up with Golem Picard to fight dead-Picard-now-resurrected-as-
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I'm positive Jack is a new type of Borg. In the 3rd episode, the very first time we see the tendrils is when he sees them coming out of Seven and she says, "Connect the branches. We will be together soon." It's when he's passing out from hypoxia.
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Earth going to get blown up.
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happyhippy posted:Earth going to get blown up. About drat time.
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I'll say this about the MCU and Star Wars, poo poo isn't generally dark unless it is like night or space or something, even then you can still see poo poo. Star Trek for some reason thinks darkness makes things more serious.
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In the final scene, the crew of the Titan realize the only way they can win is to beat the dead body of Picard. It's like poetry.
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Mike the TV posted:In the final scene, the crew of the Titan realize the only way they can win is to beat the dead body of Picard. The final battle culminates in a scene where the entire TNG crew kick and punch the lifeless body of Picard 1.0 as the TNG theme triumphantly crescendos.
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twistedmentat posted:I'll say this about the MCU and Star Wars, poo poo isn't generally dark unless it is like night or space or something, even then you can still see poo poo. Star Trek for some reason thinks darkness makes things more serious. I wouldn’t mind the current level of darkness in episode 8 if it weren’t indistinguishable from the condition-green, routine operations level of darkness in episode 1
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Big Mean Jerk posted:The final battle culminates in a scene where the entire TNG crew kick and punch the lifeless body of Picard 1.0 as the TNG theme triumphantly crescendos. "We should have done this a long time ago."
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I hope Jack is actually past Picard, and he's going through a Tapestry kind of experience. Last episode has Q asking if he really wants to survive getting stabbed in the heart, and he just says "nah," and dies. Cut to black. The end.
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The Chairman posted:I wouldn’t mind the current level of darkness in episode 8 if it weren’t indistinguishable from the condition-green, routine operations level of darkness in episode 1 If they turn the lights on anyone in space could track them, they don’t have curtains
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killer crane posted:I hope Jack is actually past Picard, and he's going through a Tapestry kind of experience. Last episode has Q asking if he really wants to survive getting stabbed in the heart, and he just says "nah," and dies. Cut to black. The end. Matalas already confirmed on Twitter that it's More Borg poo poo. He said that Vadic's line about how it was appropriate that Seven was there to witness her thwarted reveal of What Jack Crusher Really Is was the big clue of the episode that everybody missed somehow because Terry really sucks a seeding plot points into his show. So yes, we are swerving hard right into one last scoop of Borg nonsense before we finally, hopefully forever, drop the curtain on TNG.
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Wait a second. Why are there any changelings on the Titan at all? Seven days they've been there since before they picked up anyone. How did they know Picard and Riker would commandeer the Titan if they didn't even know about Beverly's signal?
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