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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
He's got the same issue as Glinner, any capacity to recognize that the world is a complex place has been replaced with hate and transphobia, to the point where he can't even interact with people.

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Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May
Who is glinner?

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Stultus Maximus posted:

Who is glinner?

Judging from the post above yours, I think that's just the twitter handle for Graham Linehan

Nihilarian
Oct 2, 2013


Women don't wear chokers. You heard it here, folks

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

the_steve posted:

Judging from the post above yours, I think that's just the twitter handle for Graham Linehan

I don’t know who that is either.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Stultus Maximus posted:

Who is glinner?

"Glinner" is a pubic hair that has gotten under your foreskin and entangled around the glans so that it's difficult to get it off.

Example - "Hey do we have cotton swabs somewhere, I've got a big glinner here"

Post poste
Mar 29, 2010

Stultus Maximus posted:

I don’t know who that is either.

A TV writer from the 1900s, who decided to octuple down on being a transphobe until everyone in his life cast him out.

Now he's a transphobe alone and crying.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Went down the exact same "I'd like to call myself a feminist but also spend 90% of my time gatekeeping womanhood from women" rabbit hole as Tats.

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Guavanaut posted:

Went down the exact same "I'd like to call myself a feminist but also spend 90% of my time gatekeeping womanhood from women" rabbit hole as Tats.

Also wrote a sitcom wherein one episode the boss of the company dates and falls in love with a trans woman but breaks up with her upon realizing she's trans.

IIRC, what Glinner had in mind was that she was supposed to be the butt of all of the jokes, but apparently none of the actors got that memo because the way the episode played out had her coming out of it pretty sympathetically.

Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"
:britain:

Observer:

"The Tory Easter bunny – The government is offering chicks aplenty, yet the Brexit basket is nigh-on empty"

Sunday Telegraph:

China rehearses 'encirclement' of Taiwan with fighter jets and ships

Matt:

Police 'seize luxury campervan' from Nicola Sturgeon's mother-in-law

Sunday Times:

Labour doubles down with second Sunak attack ad

Mail on Sunday:

“They’ll never change… Would you mind drawing the curtains, Jenkins?... May I have a cup of tea, Jenkins?... Some more cornflakes please, Jenkins...” As Charles backs study into historic connections to slave trade...The Royal Family is hit by new payout demands over their links by Caribbean campaigners who say the Monarchy 'must make repair and atonement' for their involvement

InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan

the_steve posted:

Also wrote a sitcom wherein one episode the boss of the company dates and falls in love with a trans woman but breaks up with her upon realizing she's trans.

IIRC, what Glinner had in mind was that she was supposed to be the butt of all of the jokes, but apparently none of the actors got that memo because the way the episode played out had her coming out of it pretty sympathetically.
the first "i don't care" the boss gives when his date says she used to be a man was actually touching in as much as it was the scumbag monster of a boss that was saying it.
then it turns out he thought she said she "used to be from iran" and he went back to being the gross monster. she was 100% awesome and sympathetic while he gained and lost a huge amount of awesome points (later exchanged for electric sex pants)
it's like lineham once accidentally checked out a man from behind and swore a blood oath to never be fooled again. this weird sketchy scared energy about the subject

Skios
Oct 1, 2021
Not to mention - it isn't just that he wrote an incredibly transphobic sitcom episode, it's that when everyone around him went 'Hey, we like your work, but this stuff is pretty lovely', his response was 'Well, clearly there is some global trans conspiracy, there's no other reason why you'd be critical of my genius' and spiralled from there.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

He's got the same issue as Glinner, any capacity to recognize that the world is a complex place has been replaced with hate and transphobia, to the point where he can't even interact with people.


Wow it sure is wild how TERFs always end up judging women for not being feminine enough for them.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
Tatsuya and Linehan is a good comparison, both well known among a small group of nerds (webcomic fans/british sitcom fans), becomes a born again feminist while also kinda making it about him (Tats' second-wave anti-porn thing, Glinner weighing in against gamergate back in the day) and then gets led down a rabbit hole of terfism from there in a gradual descent of "oh god I didn't think he could get worse" until everyone realises there is no depth he will not sink to

in both cases there is no actual reason anyone should know who this has-been loser is other than perhaps as a cautionary tale

Shinji2015
Aug 31, 2007
Keen on the hygiene and on the mission like a super technician.

TheDeadlyShoe posted:

The famous scene everyone remembers from The Fugitive is when Harrison Ford jumps off the Dam while having a gun pointed at him. Not the earlier scene Ishida is referencing, which i had to go check Youtube to even remember existed.

Drawing Trump in that situation of powerlessness would be off brand, I guess?

It's been a while since I've seen the movie, but isn't the point of that scene that Tommy Lee Jones's character is just doing his job? Like, as far as he's concerned, Ford's character is an escaped murderer that he's trying to bring back in, and even if there's any truth to what Ford is saying, it's not up to him to make that determination. Jones is an antagonist to Ford, but he's not the villain of the movie.

If the intention of the strip is to show that Bragg is a bad guy for trying to bring Trump in, then it fails. If he's trying to say that Bragg is a proxy for the deep state for doing his job, then it's counting on people remembering how a 30-year-old movie went, but I highly doubt Tats did when he made that, because he certainly doesn't think Bragg is just doing his job

Mr. Prokosch
Feb 14, 2012

Behold My Magnificence!
Yeah, the "I don't care" is about how this guy has a warrant and is on the run. He has to be brought in, Innocence and guilt is a thing that's determined by a jury later.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
Also gently caress you Mac. Jesus

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

bunnyofdoom posted:

Also gently caress you Mac. Jesus

The Lighter Side of... Slavery

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!
There's a lot more to Glinner and I wish people would realize it. The man has a rich, complex internal world and he's not just some transphobe for the woke left to punch down on. For example, he's also violently opposed to the existence of bisexuality.

wizzardstaff fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Apr 9, 2023

Twibbit
Mar 7, 2013

Is your refrigerator running?

wizzardstaff posted:

There's a lot more to Glinner and I wish people would realize it. The man has a rich, complex internal world and he's not just some transphobe for the woke left to punch down on. For example, he's also violently opposed to the existence of bisexuality.

I have noticed most terfs seem to hate us as well. I think they want to blame trans acceptance on us or something. Bigotry is stupid and confusing

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Twibbit posted:

I have noticed most terfs seem to hate us as well. I think they want to blame trans acceptance on us or something. Bigotry is stupid and confusing

That's a thread title right there.

Also I think I might watch The Fugitive tonight.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Nenonen posted:

"Glinner" is a pubic hair that has gotten under your foreskin and entangled around the glans so that it's difficult to get it off.

Example - "Hey do we have cotton swabs somewhere, I've got a big glinner here"

This is the most upsetting thing I've ever read in this thread

Skios
Oct 1, 2021
I mean, while we're kicking Tats over his complete lack of media literacy, the V-alliteration speech from V for Vendetta is from when Evey meets V for the first time, not the big speech to the crowd where he hijacks the broadcast systems the night after he blows up Old Bailey, which is nothing like the V speech.

ZZT the Fifth
Dec 6, 2006
I shot the invisible swordsman.

Skios posted:

I mean, while we're kicking Tats over his complete lack of media literacy, the V-alliteration speech from V for Vendetta is from when Evey meets V for the first time, not the big speech to the crowd where he hijacks the broadcast systems the night after he blows up Old Bailey, which is nothing like the V speech.

Also, V was a heroic figure opposing the fascist org dominating the country... which might be why Tats cast V as the villain in the strip.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Angepain posted:

Tatsuya and Linehan is a good comparison, both well known among a small group of nerds
Both started off mocking religious conservatism too, before ending up saying the exact same "queer theory = groomers" and "pride supports nambla" poo poo as an 80s evangelical.

InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan

Angepain posted:

Tatsuya and Linehan is a good comparison, both well known among a small group of nerds (webcomic fans/british sitcom fans), becomes a born again feminist while also kinda making it about him (Tats' second-wave anti-porn thing, Glinner weighing in against gamergate back in the day) and then gets led down a rabbit hole of terfism from there in a gradual descent of "oh god I didn't think he could get worse" until everyone realises there is no depth he will not sink to

in both cases there is no actual reason anyone should know who this has-been loser is other than perhaps as a cautionary tale
my formal theory is that as soon as quiltbag people started seeing him as an ally he got hit on or was sent a dick pic and ran screaming in the other direction for reasons even he doesn't understand.
now i'm picturing lineham standing in a meadow grazing peacefully but every once in awhile wildly jerking his head up in alarm, "is that a dick???" *munch munch munch* "thata dick???"

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




ZZT the Fifth posted:

Also, V was a heroic figure opposing the fascist org dominating the country... which might be why Tats cast V as the villain in the strip.

Eh, Alan Moore definitively wanted V to be at least morally grey.

ZZT the Fifth
Dec 6, 2006
I shot the invisible swordsman.

Alhazred posted:

Eh, Alan Moore definitively wanted V to be at least morally grey.

Well yes, that was clearly more the case in the graphic novel than the movie.

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

:australia:

Broelman:


Kudelka:

Peter Dutton has started wearing glasses so the cartoonists have updated their caricatures.

Leak, Son of Leak:

Leak's paper The Australian is running a bunch of stories alleging an Indigenous art group that has white artists touch up the work that are all behind the paywall and I can't find another source to link.

Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!
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Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

InsertPotPun posted:

my formal theory is that as soon as quiltbag people started seeing him as an ally he got hit on or was sent a dick pic and ran screaming in the other direction for reasons even he doesn't understand.
now i'm picturing lineham standing in a meadow grazing peacefully but every once in awhile wildly jerking his head up in alarm, "is that a dick???" *munch munch munch* "thata dick???"

I've always assumed it's because they didn't instantly become folk heroes the moment they performed a Male Feminism. Like, I dunno Glinner's history, but it was extremely clear from Sinfest's brief pre-TERF period that he never actually bothered trying to understand women or reflect on himself, but just thought feminism was a series of incantations to make girls like you, and he grew resentful when he never got his cookie. TERFs let them hate women while also allowing them to pretend to be feminists.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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That's the same face Drinky Duck gets when he's reading Liberal Definitions.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

TERFs let them hate women while also allowing them to pretend to be feminists.
They've also both created a hell of their own making where like half the population is trans and they're so so mad about this thing they entirely invented.

Nick Buntline
Dec 20, 2007
Doesn't know the impossible.

Trapezium Dave posted:

Leak, Son of Leak:

Leak's paper The Australian is running a bunch of stories alleging an Indigenous art group that has white artists touch up the work that are all behind the paywall and I can't find another source to link.

assuming this is referencing the art I think it is, holy poo poo what. like obviously this is racist as poo poo, but this is going beyond "the Benin Bronzes should stay in Britain because Nigeria can't be trusted to maintain them" into "they should stay in Britain because they were actually made by British people and all the culture and history depicted in them is totally fake."

at least the Ancient Aliens people try to stick to stuff that wasn't created in living memory.

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

I've always assumed it's because they didn't instantly become folk heroes the moment they performed a Male Feminism. Like, I dunno Glinner's history, but it was extremely clear from Sinfest's brief pre-TERF period that he never actually bothered trying to understand women or reflect on himself, but just thought feminism was a series of incantations to make girls like you, and he grew resentful when he never got his cookie. TERFs let them hate women while also allowing them to pretend to be feminists.

This is exactly it.

Ishida did a short story arc where he absolved himself for all of his misogynistic cartoons, and when he wasn't immediately crowned King of the Feminists, he decided that there was just no pleasing the stupid broads. And then he spiraled from there.

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

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Space Cadet Omoly posted:

There's some really ugly irony in Sinfest telling people to stop harassing someone who's done nothing wrong when every other strip is about how trans people are evil and should be punished for being alive.

Also, the person who the comic is claiming has "done nothing wrong" has openly admitted to having committed crimes multiple times either via tweets or while on camera.
You can't expect a revolutionary, politically active, gender-nonconforming lesbian like Monique to be at all aware of Trump's crimes! How would she know anything about what he's done (which is apparently nothing, by the way)??

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

I watched the IT crowd on DVD, second time with Lineham's own commentary which certainly was a learning experience.

the_steve posted:

Also wrote a sitcom wherein one episode the boss of the company dates and falls in love with a trans woman but breaks up with her upon realizing she's trans.
It's worth noting that the "break up" consisted of a full-on violent punch-up which ends with the boss throwing the trans woman through a wall. While the commentary consists of a lot of Lineham being super defensive about all his "jokes" it was clear was the bit he was getting the most criticism for because of course it loving was and Lineham's complete inability to grasp that was extremely evident.

I can completely see how his inability to soul search on the criticism on his poo poo jokes that stem from a world view calcified from overwatching nineties comedies led him to endlessly quadrupling down into what he is now.

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

There's some really ugly irony in Sinfest telling people to stop harassing someone who's done nothing wrong when every other strip is about how trans people are evil and should be punished for being alive.

That's why he never frames is as "wanting to be alive."
It's always "cut off your kid's junk and force them to give Joe Biden a lapdance."

It can't just be people wanting to be left alone, it's always a sinister Other trying to force their life choices onto everyone else. Which yeah, projection and the pot hurling racial slurs at the kettle, but that's always been page 1 of the right wing playbook.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Linehan and Tatsuya are prime examples of how transphobia is a cognitive virus that spreads throughout your brain. I expect someone to find Linehan dead of starvation one of these days because he brought food to his mouth and instead of biting just began to yell about pronouns.

Rowling appears to be trying to speedrun the brain worms.

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Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖

Mr. Prokosch posted:

Yeah, the "I don't care" is about how this guy has a warrant and is on the run. He has to be brought in, Innocence and guilt is a thing that's determined by a jury later.
Also just imagine this happening in real life in response to anything. Cop comes in to serve a warrant and the guy just comes out, points a gun at him, and goes "THERE IS NO CRIME HERE". This is definitely how the law works!
Funniest part is that Trump is not a fugitive, he came in when they asked them to, literally the opposite of what that word means.

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