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bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
I'm really glad to hear them spend so much time and be so thorough about how everything Alex, and those like him, says is just meaningless lies and should be ignored for the contradictory, irrelevant, bullshit conversational camouflage it is. I dearly wish more and more sources would stop chasing their tails trying to decipher the lies and just point out that the cruelty really is the point and gently caress these people they're hateful bigots.

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LionYeti
Oct 12, 2008


bird food bathtub posted:

I'm really glad to hear them spend so much time and be so thorough about how everything Alex, and those like him, says is just meaningless lies and should be ignored for the contradictory, irrelevant, bullshit conversational camouflage it is. I dearly wish more and more sources would stop chasing their tails trying to decipher the lies and just point out that the cruelty really is the point and gently caress these people they're hateful bigots.

The issue with that sort of reporting is that it only "works" once, its not profitable to keep saying that yeah the cruelty is the point.

Mauser
Dec 16, 2003

How did I even get here, son?!
I would prefer that reporting refer to Alex Jones as a dick pill salesman in the headlines

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

Mauser posted:

I would prefer that reporting refer to Alex Jones as a dick pill salesman in the headlines

I think that kind of monikor would strike the majority as both harmless and somewhat humorous, if not actively endear him to a good few people for becoming successful as a "dick pill salesman" because as much as everyone hates being on the receiving end of a scam, a lot of people can still admire the hustle of a grift so long as it's not something that is actively awful. And framing Alex as just as a "dick pill salesman" doesn't highlight just how awful he is, so most people won't know it. At least framing him as a bigot and/or religious zealot (I originally mispelled that as zealout and think that pun is much more accurate now that I've looked at it; both for matching "lout" to the word zealot, and because it reminds me of the word sellout, which seems appropriate too) will leave even people who only skim the headline with that impression, which is almost universally agreed to be bad.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



"Racist tragedy vampire" is much more accurate.

Tree Dude
May 26, 2012

AND MY SONG IS...
With every podcast in the world advertising Hims right now I ask who amongst us isn't a dick pill salesman?

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Tree Dude posted:

With every podcast in the world advertising Hims right now I ask who amongst us isn't a dick pill salesman?

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rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe

Tree Dude posted:

With every podcast in the world advertising Hims right now I ask who amongst us isn't a dick pill salesman?

I was working for a company that tested pharmaceuticals and over the counter stuff up until the end of last year. Hims contracted us to do testing on their boner pills, and i was learning a new instrument. I was really confused for a little bit while dealing with their pills because all i was getting was sildenafil(viagra), sugar, and something else. The something else was a flavoring agent to make it minty, and the pill was like 20 milligrams of sildenafil in a 500 milligram sugar pill

They also had a sildenafil(levitra) pill, and a vardenafil(cialis) pill, all of which are only sugar pills with a little mint in it

Edit: i would be more interested in a quaid-themed mobile game than actual raid shadow legends

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



rotinaj posted:

I was working for a company that tested pharmaceuticals and over the counter stuff up until the end of last year. Hims contracted us to do testing on their boner pills, and i was learning a new instrument. I was really confused for a little bit while dealing with their pills because all i was getting was sildenafil(viagra), sugar, and something else. The something else was a flavoring agent to make it minty, and the pill was like 20 milligrams of sildenafil in a 500 milligram sugar pill

They also had a sildenafil(levitra) pill, and a vardenafil(cialis) pill, all of which are only sugar pills with a little mint in it

Edit: i would be more interested in a quaid-themed mobile game than actual raid shadow legends

I am choosing to read this as you playing a saxophone at a pile of boner pills.

You can try to argue with it, but that reading is staying in my head.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe

Xiahou Dun posted:

I am choosing to read this as you playing a saxophone at a pile of boner pills.

You can try to argue with it, but that reading is staying in my head.

I-…

*quietly putting a french horn away*

Yes. Saxophone.

Shinji2015
Aug 31, 2007
Keen on the hygiene and on the mission like a super technician.
Lemme just say that between the fallout from Wrestlemania, the AEW announcement, friend of the show Tom from CogDis revealing that he once wrestled CM Punk on this week's bonus episode of their show, and today's episode of KF, it has been a tremendous amount of content this week for us KF fans who also are wrestling fans

Tree Dude
May 26, 2012

AND MY SONG IS...
"...I meant to cover that story on air but you can just type it in. stone age... town... found... in germany... that was based on cannibalism"

Just a funny entry to one of my favorite Alex things: telling people how to google stuff.

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*
Kind of wonder if this most recent episode was where Alex just came to accept that his audience were loving morons, just going off on a rant about it kind of like Bill Cooper started doing. Except instead of staying true to his ideals like Bill did he just went into full tilt boogey into scamming people in the most extreme ways possible.

Mercury_Storm fucked around with this message at 12:11 on Apr 8, 2023

Morroque
Mar 6, 2013
Goldbuggery is itself a form of scam. Goldbuggery requires the scamer consider their targets to be easily-manipulated fools, as it belongs in the "bigger fool" style of financial fraud, much like cryptocurrencies in the modern context.

So long as he was in partnership with Midas Resources, he was always scamming his audience. This applies even to Bill Cooper as well, who was also in partnership with minerals sales, and used the same sales-tactics as Alex later did.

This means the only time Jones was likely ever not scamming an audience was during the public access days, but we cannot even be certain of that.

What you were looking at was only a moment where he broke kayfabe, revealing a likely-already-extant distan of his audience.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

The pitch guy on the last show who talked about about being 'Into Gold' for 26 years now leapt out at me.

You know for every one of those years he'd have the same pitch about society and the dollar being about to collapse and Gold soar in value 'Any day now, it's coming soon!'.

Year after year.

LionYeti
Oct 12, 2008


Deptfordx posted:

The pitch guy on the last show who talked about about being 'Into Gold' for 26 years now leapt out at me.

You know for every one of those years he'd have the same pitch about society and the dollar being about to collapse and Gold soar in value 'Any day now, it's coming soon!'.

Year after year.

The thing that always interested me about goldbugs is why would someone exchange their precious metals for apparently soon to be worthless paper

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

LionYeti posted:

The thing that always interested me about goldbugs is why would someone exchange their precious metals for apparently soon to be worthless paper

That's why you gotta pay a premium above market price from Alex's sponsors and can't trust those people selling it cheaper :hmmyes:.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


LionYeti posted:

The thing that always interested me about goldbugs is why would someone exchange their precious metals for apparently soon to be worthless paper

You don't, that's the point. The gold will still have value and can be used as currency after the Obamapocalypse.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Grand Fromage posted:

You don't, that's the point. The gold will still have value and can be used as currency after the Obamapocalypse.

To which the rational person then responds, "So why do you want my paper for your gold, Mr. Gold Salesperson?"

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Xiahou Dun posted:

To which the rational person then responds, "So why do you want my paper for your gold, Mr. Gold Salesperson?"

You want its future value in booze, bullets and guzzolene while they're content with planning to die in the initial apocalypse or play chicken with it a little longer :). Or they're just patriots and that's why Alex recommends them :patriot:.

There actually was a fun take on that in the show Jericho. They send out the new merchant-lord kid of the village who helped the daughter of the supermarket's now-dead owner consolidate power and dragged all of her silverware and expensive poo poo up to the big trading fair that they heard about. Only to get mocked that nobody wanted their useless stuff and that silver would get them thrown out because people were afraid that it had soaked up radiation. People wanted medicine, booze and they really, really wanted salt.

Parakeet vs. Phone fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Apr 10, 2023

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary

Parakeet vs. Phone posted:

You want its future value in booze, bullets and guzzolene while they're content with planning to die in the initial apocalypse or play chicken with it a little longer :). Or they're just patriots and that's why Alex recommends them :patriot:.

There actually was a fun take on that in the show Jericho. They send out the new merchant-lord kid of the village who helped the daughter of the supermarket's now-dead owner consolidate power and dragged all of her silverware and expensive poo poo up to the big trading fair that they heard about. Only to get mocked that nobody wanted their useless stuff and that silver would get them thrown out because people were afraid that it had soaked up radiation. People wanted medicine, booze and they really, really wanted salt.

The thing everyone forgets is precious metals are just as much of a fiat currency requiring the good faith of your local government to have any value. If New Austin uses gold as their only currency then the first man to figure out how to make his own gold-imitation paint is the first billionaire of the post-apocalypse, you need minting facilities to verify the gold's authenticity and stamp the king's face on coins or everyone has every reason to assume it's fake

DarklyDreaming fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Apr 10, 2023

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019

A safety-conscious little mouse!

DarklyDreaming posted:

The thing everyone forgets is precious metals are just as much of a fiat currency requiring the good faith of your local government to have any value. If New Austin uses gold as their only currency then the first man to figure out how to make his own gold-imitation paint is the first billionaire of the post-apocalypse, you need minting facilities to verify the gold's authenticity and stamp the king's face on coins or everyone has every reason to assume it's fake

Anyone with a physics textbook could measure its density

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

That's why you include lead to balance it out.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

More like fools sold

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019

A safety-conscious little mouse!

FFT posted:

That's why you include lead to balance it out.

gold is 70% denser than lead

Mauser
Dec 16, 2003

How did I even get here, son?!
no, I'm going to hold onto the gold for you, but I'll give you a certificate that says you own this amount of gold stored safely in the vault. No you can't see the gold.

Marsupial Ape
Dec 15, 2020
the mod team violated the sancity of my avatar

Mauser posted:

no, I'm going to hold onto the gold for you, but I'll give you a certificate that says you own this amount of gold stored safely in the vault. No you can't see the gold.

That’s one way to return to the gold backed dollar, I guess.

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

Xakura posted:

gold is 70% denser than lead
Huh. I've been getting that backwards for a while due to lead's higher atomic number, I guess.

Fine, use osmium as a filler, it's not good for much else.

0konner
Nov 17, 2016

I WAS THERE
WHEN CODY RHODES
FINISHED THE STORY
Dan hosed up he had the clip of jones saying trumps speech should have been “solemn” he didn’t include his more specific stage directions.

- people should be banging on shields
- Wagner playing
- “war drums” as in 1776-esque marching drums

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Okay that Technocrat shout out got big ol’ laugh out of me. Especially the slight delay as it clicked for Jordan.

Dangerous Person
Apr 4, 2011

Not dead yet
Having to hear these people talk about Utopia was painful

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

I was genuinally getting infuriated listening to this as these lazy assholes just started ploughing through every goddamn SciFi show and film of the last 20 years and deciding 'hmmm yes that's a real thing'.

Had to explain to someone why i shouted out loud "loving STARGATE IS REAL NOW!" as I was doing the ironing.

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:
I have read these two posts as talking about the hosts. I hope they haven't said anything wrong about The Culture.

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012
Still quite pissed about Damien Echols doing anything with Pool. For fucks sake dude, he would have been the one to lock you up, why break bread?

Froghammer
Sep 8, 2012

Khajit has wares
if you have coin
Tim Pool's view of magic is literally the plot of Mage: The Ascension

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*
All the talk of movies being prophetic in that episode makes me think they don't actually believe that "the globalists" are behind some insidious plot in film scripts, and it's more that more that people like Jones and Pool are profoundly uncreative and lazy idiots who need content for their lovely shows, and might as well crib it from Hollywood material and pass it off as intellectual.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Froghammer posted:

Tim Pool's view of magic is literally the plot of Mage: The Ascension

If we’re being super nerdy, he’s describing the Seers from Mage the Awakening.

Who it should be noted are antagonists lol.

:goonsay: so big it could blot out the sun

Tree Dude
May 26, 2012

AND MY SONG IS...
Laughed pretty hard after hearing Alex tell this story about someone trying to give him 10,000 bitcoin in the early days when they were worth nothing and waxing about how it could have been worth $600 million had he been able to figure it out knowing that he would have kept none of it and still been $900m in debt.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

Tree Dude posted:

Laughed pretty hard after hearing Alex tell this story about someone trying to give him 10,000 bitcoin in the early days when they were worth nothing and waxing about how it could have been worth $600 million had he been able to figure it out knowing that he would have kept none of it and still been $900m in debt.

The 3 possibilities assuming (and that the story is real) he'd kept it.

1) Lost in the Mt Gox rugpull.

2) Hard drive with codes dumped in landfill after he'd forgotten about them.

3) Most likely. A while later he hears "Say people are paying a buck for those bitcoins now!" and is immediately ka-ching! Makes 10k. Which TBF is the reality of what almost everyone would have done, myself included.

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Tree Dude
May 26, 2012

AND MY SONG IS...

Deptfordx posted:

The 3 possibilities assuming (and that the story is real) he'd kept it.

1) Lost in the Mt Gox rugpull.

2) Hard drive with codes dumped in landfill after he'd forgotten about them.

3) Most likely. A while later he hears "Say people are paying a buck for those bitcoins now!" and is immediately ka-ching! Makes 10k. Which TBF is the reality of what almost everyone would have done, myself included.

oh, 100% but even in his wildest fantasy where everything goes right he's still down 900 million dollars.

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