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PurpleXVI posted:Considering mentions that some of the numbers in the leaked data do not seem to line up with publicly available or stated data, and look like they've been intentionally altered, what are the odds that this leak is intentional disinformation to confuse the Russians? The only instance of alteration I've seen concrete evidence for is the very sloppy hack-job of changing Ukrainian and Russian casualty figures and equipment losses.
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Hannibal Rex posted:The only instance of alteration I've seen concrete evidence for is the very sloppy hack-job of changing Ukrainian and Russian casualty figures and equipment losses. And on top of that, those alterations were disseminated on Russian Telegram channels.
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Scrungus posted:Honestly what I'm most curious about is how effective those old rear end hawk batteries are gonna be. Those things are contemporaneous with what, SA-6 ? And you'd figure given their ubiquity, the Russians would have a ton of Soviet era data WEZ, emission, etc data on them. I wonder if their radar could even pick up a shahed. They’ve been upgraded a bit over time, although I think the last round of upgrades was a while back. That said, they’re effective and they have a lot of kills over the years so, I expect that they will be pretty helpful when used with proper evaluation of where to place them.
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Wait so what's the doctored one, the one that maximizes Russian losses, or minimizes Russian losses? Do we even know?
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The doctored one is the one that minimises Russian casualties. Obviously I'm not going to post it in the forum, but it is an extremely obvious terrible photoshop job if you just look at it.
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Bit of a gobshite that putin eh?
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Karate Bastard posted:Bit of a gobshite that putin eh? I'm de-lurking just to a say that I strongly agree.
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Karate Bastard posted:Bit of a gobshite that putin eh? I strongly, strongly dislike him.
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Joke Miriam posted:Wait so what's the doctored one, the one that maximizes Russian losses, or minimizes Russian losses? The one with the 6.000 lost russian vehicles is the "right" one, but might be several months old, since Oryx alone is over 10.000 now. https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html Russian propaganda posters removed a 0. Lol
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Fearless posted:Russia's manpower situation is going the be getting increasingly acute with the probable need to put more troops on the Finnish birder now that Finland has joined NATO. And by the sounds of things, the Kremlin might be starting to acknowledge that all those suspicious building fires and assassinations might actually be the work of domestic opposition groups. I dunno how much the Russians will have to spare if the Ukrainians hammer them again, and another big mobilization is going to take months to pull off. Understood that Finland is adding a large NATO border, but why would Russia need to put more than a handful of additional troops there at this time? I understand not wanting to neglect their border with China too much but seems pointless to put significant ground troops on a spot where it is unlikely NATO would choose to declare war, when they are critically needed elsewhere.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Understood that Finland is adding a large NATO border, but why would Russia need to put more than a handful of additional troops there at this time? I understand not wanting to neglect their border with China too much but seems pointless to put significant ground troops on a spot where it is unlikely NATO would choose to declare war, when they are critically needed elsewhere. Probably some easy posturing and 'immediate retaliations' against nato/Finland. And/or Putin and his kremlin cronies fully bought into how a voluntary defensive alliance is going to raze Moscow any day now and Something Must Be Done(probably more harassment and im-not-touching-you poo poo), even if there can't be that many soldiers comfortably freed up to sit on the border.
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RoyKeen posted:I'm de-lurking. This is what is known as "posting"
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The finns should up their meme war, to demonstrate the urgent need to relocate troops away from Ukraine, to defend against the depravities that now threaten to pour in over this new western front. Kuha on lämmin, perkele kurkkumopo.
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Jasper Tin Neck posted:It's worth noting some Bulgarians are already in the replies casting doubt on his assumption that Bulgaria can/will assist. That being said, I don't think they can manufacture S-300 missiles, and I have no idea if they'd be willing to sell anymore of their existing stocks..
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How does it work for countries being willing to send items like anti-air missiles while keeping enough for themselves? Like I understand countries that directly border Russia wouldn’t be able to deplete their stocks to the point where they couldn’t defend themselves, but couldn’t France or Spain send nearly all they have as they don’t border Russia and a theoretical air attack would have to go through most of NATO? Or is that probably already happening but countries don’t tend to share the state of their anti-air strength?
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Hyrax Attack! posted:How does it work for countries being willing to send items like anti-air missiles while keeping enough for themselves? Like I understand countries that directly border Russia wouldn’t be able to deplete their stocks to the point where they couldn’t defend themselves, but couldn’t France or Spain send nearly all they have as they don’t border Russia and a theoretical air attack would have to go through most of NATO? Or is that probably already happening but countries don’t tend to share the state of their anti-air strength? Wasn't the Army also like "Thank God, take this poo poo, we don't want it" about the prospect of sending some of our thousands of Abrams?
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Joke Miriam posted:Wait so what's the doctored one, the one that maximizes Russian losses, or minimizes Russian losses? We do know, because the photoshop was really shoddy. The numbers on the version with lower Russian losses are not correctly aligned.
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I sincerely hope my meme speak didn't translate into actual Finnish. That's been known to conjure actual Arja Saijonmaa into existence.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:How does it work for countries being willing to send items like anti-air missiles while keeping enough for themselves? Like I understand countries that directly border Russia wouldn’t be able to deplete their stocks to the point where they couldn’t defend themselves, but couldn’t France or Spain send nearly all they have as they don’t border Russia and a theoretical air attack would have to go through most of NATO? Or is that probably already happening but countries don’t tend to share the state of their anti-air strength? Every european country could send everything, imo, it's not like russia is going to open a second front. That said, it would be a political cost, look at all the "do we have enough stingers/javelins/at4s for ourselves!?!" articles that ran in countries that absolutely did not depend on them for safety.
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I'm visiting from the GBS thread to tell you all about the latest tank Russia is sending to the front, sure to inspire fear and awe in their enemies:HonorableTB posted:like They restored an Object-279 from the Kubinka tank museum. They only ever made 3 of these lol.
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psydude posted:How do you fix a middle tread on one of those? Stinks of one of those "the design engineer has never had to change the oil in their life" bits, like the Subaru ring of fire. Alternate answer: capture an Allied construction yard, then put an engineer inside an IFV.
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If you're wondering why the concrete underneath the tank is busted and spalled, it may interest you to know the Object-279 weighed 60 tons
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HonorableTB posted:I'm visiting from the GBS thread to tell you all about the latest tank Russia is sending to the front, sure to inspire fear and awe in their enemies: Hold still, I'm coming for ya https://twitter.com/Seveerity/status/1645445427653738496
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Arrath posted:Stinks of one of those "the design engineer has never had to change the oil in their life" bits, like the Subaru ring of fire. Oh, much like how apparently nobody in the MIC is left handed.
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HonorableTB posted:Do left-handed users get sprayed in the face by hot brass or is that accounted for in modern rifle designs? I don't know anything about ejection systems but that would really suck to find out a bunch of hot brass is now filling your shirt As long as it's not a bull pup it shouldn't be a big deal
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HonorableTB posted:Do left-handed users get sprayed in the face by hot brass or is that accounted for in modern rifle designs? I don't know anything about ejection systems but that would really suck to find out a bunch of hot brass is now filling your shirt Every weapons qual of my military career was marked by getting sprayed in the face by hot CLP from the ejection port of an M-16/M4. At least I wasn't a SAW gunner.
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HonorableTB posted:Do left-handed users get sprayed in the face by hot brass or is that accounted for in modern rifle designs? I don't know anything about ejection systems but that would really suck to find out a bunch of hot brass is now filling your shirt There’s a little knob on M4’s that’s supposed to reflect brass away from the weapon, at a good enough angle to not get down between your shirt and your armor and leave a vaguely .226 brass-shaped burn on your chest. Supposed to 
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Dein Specht posted:Hold still, I'm coming for ya I’ve heard of tanks being penetrated but is something else
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