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Albatrossy_Rodent posted:I think OoT is still drat playable. If anything feels less than modern it's the structure and some of the more obtuse overworld puzzles (like feeding a fish to the whale to get it to open its mouth), but combat (while obviously less refined than anything nowadays) still just *works.* The absolute lack of air control in SM64 is the roughest part of it now. The early levels still feel great but the later levels that demand perfect jumping make me wish I had a double jump or some ability to shift momentum in the air.
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Apr 10, 2023 21:24
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I would play OoT 100 times straight before I picked up TP or SS again Beat TP in a 3 day grind since it was not my copy of the game I was playing, so I never got a ton of time to dwell on how empty things got...but on the flip side there's not a ton I remember aside from like one or two dungeons. Nice final battles though, I'll give it that. SS I was extremely hyped for but it's probably the game I dislike the most in the franchise, including Spirit Tracks. The fights at the Sealed Grounds were unfun, I ran into a lot of glitches with them, and overall the game wasted an opening I was pretty jazzed about. OoT, especially as I'm in the middle of another N64 playthrough currently, has more backtracking than I remember but I've still been enjoying each dungeon as it comes. I am about to hit the OG water temple again, though, so gimme some time and I'll let ya know if I turn on the game.
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Apr 10, 2023 21:30
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Albatrossy_Rodent posted:It's no Super Mario 64 though, that is a game anyone can play today and agree that it's a GOAT contender, it's lost zero of its playability and fun in thirty years. I watched some SM64 runs last week and it's just so drat impressive what they pulled off. The dialog and beating the player over the head with the mechanics is a little heavy handed but I also get it for the time and importance of that title.
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Apr 10, 2023 21:41
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Deceptive Thinker posted:I don't think I would ever play OoT again without the QOL and enhancements from the 3DS version or Ship of Harkinian at the very least Can you do all the QOL stuff with none of the randomization with Ship of Harkinian? I'd be willing to try that out
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Apr 10, 2023 21:55
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Beve Stuscemi posted:Can you do all the QOL stuff with none of the randomization with Ship of Harkinian? yeah you can, the randomizer isn't the main feature
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Apr 10, 2023 21:56
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The best way to play OoT period. Has every little thing I wanted to tweak before I ever knew I wanted it to be.
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Apr 10, 2023 21:59
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I absolutely despise the camera in SM64 and I’ve never beaten it for that reason. Everything past Galaxy though, hell yeah. Three beasts down in my BotW play through but I still have tons left to do. I just finished that crazy thunder shribe quests and completed my second stamina circle. I got too close to a white Lynel who owned me before I could run away even though I had no weapons drawn. Their aggro range is insane. Haven’t messed with dragons left, still got the camel to finish. Lynels still scare the poo poo out of me, along with anything else bigger than a Moblin or Lizardos. Monsters are so drat tall in this game.
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Apr 10, 2023 22:15
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Ocarina of Time was great. You could argue Link to the Past doesn't hold up for the same reasons. I can beat that in a weekend because I know every puzzle. The deku tree dungeon stumped (get it?) me as a kid because it didn't occur to me to burn the cobwebs because I didn't think it was possible. Even though you do stuff like that in every previous game. If all else fails try fire. And it was awesome to beat the first dungeon. Don't let current Zelda games negate your feelings of Zeldas past.
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Apr 10, 2023 23:18
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I'd say out of all Zelda games to date, LtTP holds up the best and it's not a close call. Games like Shovel Knight proved that those pixel games are essentially timeless if designed well enough. That entire generation of pixel era Zelda games are pretty much all universally regarded. Awakening, Oracles, Minish Cap, etc, once the handhelds shifted to 3D and we got the Wind Waker sequels the magic just vanished. I've never seen anyone speak highly of Phantom Hourglass or Spirit Tracks. Link Between Worlds was released 10 years ago, and since then aside from Triforce Heroes there weren't any 'small' Zelda games released that weren't remakes.
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Apr 10, 2023 23:50
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Wish I could play link between worlds. I've never had a 3DS.
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Apr 10, 2023 23:54
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Mulaney Power Move posted:Ocarina of Time was great. You could argue Link to the Past doesn't hold up for the same reasons. I can beat that in a weekend because I know every puzzle. Yeah, I did so much of LttP before managing to finish the desert dungeon because I didn't realise what torches were or that you could light them, so I couldn't figure out how to get into the boss room there. So I went and did everything else I could, just not with that amulet...
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Apr 10, 2023 23:58
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https://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-going-after-zelda-tears-of-the-kingdom-art-book-leaker/ lol.
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Apr 10, 2023 23:58
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Albatrossy_Rodent posted:It's no Super Mario 64 though, that is a game anyone can play today and agree that it's a GOAT contender, it's lost zero of its playability and fun in thirty years. Gonna have to disagree on this - I adored SM64 at launch, it was the first game I ever 100%ed, but I tried to get back into it when I got 3D All-Stars and after the nostalgia rush of the first few worlds wore off I just could not get back into it. It’s currently sitting at 30ish stars in my copy of 3dAS, where it will likely stay forever. Galaxy, on the other hand… 
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Apr 11, 2023 00:04
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External Organs posted:Wish I could play link between worlds. I've never had a 3DS. I love the 3DS and genuinely mourn the fact that we'll probably never get a "proper" dedicated handheld like it again. I even liked its 3d gimmick, but it just had a great feel to it in general (particularly the larger later version). The Switch isn't really portable in the same way; you can't put it in your pocket and it just has a very different feel to it in general.
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Apr 11, 2023 00:12
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The Maroon Hawk posted:Gonna have to disagree on this - I adored SM64 at launch, it was the first game I ever 100%ed, but I tried to get back into it when I got 3D All-Stars and after the nostalgia rush of the first few worlds wore off I just could not get back into it. It’s currently sitting at 30ish stars in my copy of 3dAS, where it will likely stay forever. 64>Galaxy, no question. Where Galaxy rewards your ability to go in a straight line real good, 64 rewards your ability to explore every corner of its stages. Also, Galaxy has that stage where you have to bomb all those garbage piles, which blows and is harder than any FromSoft in the worst possible way, and 64 doesn't, which I think puts it even further ahead.
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Apr 11, 2023 00:30
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Hogama posted:Guardians just have a "gently caress this poo poo I'm outta here" subroutine, it seems. 
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Apr 11, 2023 00:48
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External Organs posted:Wish I could play link between worlds. I've never had a 3DS. I went out of my way to get it (bought it on eBay, as opposed to locally as part of a lot on Marketplace like most of my purchases). It's... OK, but for whatever reason I kinda bounced off it after a couple hours. I was only a casual LttP enjoyer though, so that may be my problem.
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Apr 11, 2023 00:56
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my parents took away OOT shortly after i beat the forest temple because i guess they thought i was going to start believing the hylian creation myth instead of the bible if i ever get around to getting an N64 controller i might try and actually finish it. playing N64 games with a modern game-pad just feels weird to me
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Apr 11, 2023 01:01
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I can't remember Link Between Worlds much, but I do remember that I enjoyed it a lot and quickly finished it, which is a big deal because I'm extremely bad about finishing games, especially when they don't have very strong "page-turner" narratives. So it must have been really good.
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Apr 11, 2023 01:04
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Ytlaya posted:I can't remember Link Between Worlds much, but I do remember that I enjoyed it a lot and quickly finished it, which is a big deal because I'm extremely bad about finishing games, especially when they don't have very strong "page-turner" narratives. So it must have been really good. I played it emulated since I don't have/never had a 3DS. It was quick and I finished and deleted it as per my unwritten agreement with Nintendo of America. 
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Apr 11, 2023 01:33
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Ytlaya posted:I can't remember Link Between Worlds much, but I do remember that I enjoyed it a lot and quickly finished it, which is a big deal because I'm extremely bad about finishing games, especially when they don't have very strong "page-turner" narratives. So it must have been really good. Same. It's one of the 3 Zelda games I've ever finished (along with TP and BotW)
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Apr 11, 2023 01:38
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I never got further than entering the dark world in alttp, just getting ADHD about it and bouncing off. A link between worlds felt like a juicer remake and really nailed it for me and my 2D-Zelda-wary wife. poo poo was cash money, and I finished that game.
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Apr 11, 2023 01:47
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Zelda II is a pretty janky game. with save states it's still bad but without them its literal hell
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Apr 11, 2023 02:04
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I had a friend who had the golden one I think and I was so excited to play it and I tried for way too long at this sleepover and never got very far. It was really weird and frustrating. I got through most of it once with save states way later but just wasn't having fun and was basically following a guide anyway to avoid wandering around and losing interest.
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Apr 11, 2023 02:22
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I bet there's a whole second map and they've somehow managed to keep it quiet, eliciting the exact same feeling as I had from discovering the Second Quest in the original I want to believe
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Apr 11, 2023 02:35
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Antonymous posted:Zelda II is a pretty janky game. with save states it's still bad but without them its literal hell Ya know, for kids. Can't believe that was my dream game for $50 back in the late 80s or early 90s whenever that was. So hard. Eventually did make it to the last level but never put the thought or effort into how to beat it or game the leveling system the way speed runner/game beaters do now.
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Apr 11, 2023 02:42
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I just want to say while i dont think its a top ten the minish cap was adorable
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Apr 11, 2023 02:49
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There’s a pretty good pc version of Zelda II someone made which has great QOL improvements and some extra content
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Apr 11, 2023 02:50
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In the lead up to TotK I've replayed BoTW and it's Prequel Warriors spinoff, and now I'm working on Minish cap for a traditional Zelda. It's interesting the game mentions the Picori can mend the Master Sword, makes me really curious if they're gonna show up in TotK considering it has a scrapped idea for tiny people.
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Apr 11, 2023 02:54
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Antonymous posted:Zelda II is a pretty janky game. with save states it's still bad but without them its literal hell I played Zelda II well before I played Zelda I, so it's always the one with which I was most familiar. It's still the only game I ever tried "speedrunning" when I was like 12 -- I think I could beat the first quest in 4.5 hours, and the second in 1:20 because you started maxed out. It wasn't my cartridge, and we were freaked out when we got to the last castle and ran into Dark Link. Took us a couple days to beat him. The last castle also has a couple huge-rear end fuckin blue slimes that we thought were amazing.
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Apr 11, 2023 02:59
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ZeusCannon posted:I just want to say while i dont think its a top ten the minish cap was adorable It’s a lot of fun. I’m having a blast with the GBA games on the Switch I hope they release more bangers.
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Apr 11, 2023 03:04
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Augus posted:yeah you can, the randomizer isn't the main feature
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Apr 11, 2023 03:10
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Pixeltendo posted:In the lead up to TotK I've replayed BoTW and it's Prequel Warriors spinoff, and now I'm working on Minish cap for a traditional Zelda. my  theory is that the picori are in the game and those green spiral things buildings we've seen are how you shrink yourself. and while you won't be able to explore the entire overworld in mini-mode, it'll still serve (like the sky and maybe underground) as yet another way to expand the map
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Apr 11, 2023 03:16
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Minish Cap one of my favorites so I'd love that. Grounded also did the tiny world thing and it was great. Let Link get small.
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Apr 11, 2023 03:18
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I'm not hopeful, but I really want more tiny shenanigans after replaying Minish Cap a bit ago, it's one of the better gimmicks in the series.
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Apr 11, 2023 03:20
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Antonymous posted:Zelda II is a pretty janky game. with save states it's still bad but without them its literal hell You can get just about anywhere but said palace on one life, so once you're fully leveled, continues aren't a big deal, and once you do get there, you can finally continue there instead of starting at the North Palace. Iron Knuckles are also extremely vulnerable to jump slashes if you time them right. Your sword should clip through the top of their head and it bypasses their shield every time. It was my favorite Zelda for ages. The music, the sprawling map, the way the towns full of people made it feel like a whole world was out there... Zelda 2 rules. It and Goonies II were my go-to games whenever I got sick as a kid, which happened really frequently.
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Apr 11, 2023 03:20
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Zelda comes out in about a month! Y'all ready to FREAK OUT
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Apr 11, 2023 03:31
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God I hope there's one more gameplay video before launch Another aonuma video where he's like "today let's take a look at one of the game's dungeons" and does like one room puzzle and maybe a miniboss but we learn from the video that there's many dungeons in the game and they're all uniquely themed And then 1 or 2 weeks out we get a really cool story trailer that gives away nothing but amplifies everyone's hype
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Apr 11, 2023 03:37
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Mulaney Power Move posted:Ocarina of Time was great. You could argue Link to the Past doesn't hold up for the same reasons. I can beat that in a weekend because I know every puzzle.
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Apr 11, 2023 03:45
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Hedrigall posted:God I hope there's one more gameplay video before launch I don't want to see anything more before release. I was sold by the trailers and the gameplay showcase has made me rabid. I just REALLY hope you get to upgrade battery capacity. It's a safe bet considering the trailer shows Link flying pretty drat high on a square tile.
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