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OwlFancier posted:Nominally, in practice I do not think the military would answer to the monarch over the government, and in fact this has been proven historically.
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The monarch's role in British politics is to be the load-bearing nonce. Without Charles our already collapsing democracy would pop out of existence and we'd all suddenly find ourselves in work camps mining the dirt for the super rich.
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big scary monsters posted:I know it's all supposedly ceremonial, the king has no real power, would have to sign his own death warrant etc. If all that's really true, then a) what's the purpose of the king?, and b) I'd like to see it proven. Historically the king did not, in fact, have to sign his own death warrant.
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Dabir posted:If anyone here still thinks 'tankie' is a meaningless word, this is one I would describe myself as a "tankie" (I think tanks are cool and good and we should give more of them to Ukraine)
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big scary monsters posted:I know it's all supposedly ceremonial, the king has no real power, would have to sign his own death warrant etc. If all that's really true, then a) what's the purpose of the king?, and b) I'd like to see it proven. Pageantry. Also a lot of countries have some legal fiction which gives the government legitimacy, because just saying "we have all the guns and tanks" makes the threat a bit too explicit for some people. The UK or its predecessor nations have been around for quite a while and so parliament has just never really changed from "we speak on behalf of magic god man" on the paperwork. Except for that brief time when it did. Also I would not like to see it proven because while last time they did eventually kill the twat it took a while and got a lot of other people killed in the process because unfortunately, opinion on the matter was not universal. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Apr 11, 2023 |
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Apr 11, 2023 18:06
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If you need a civil war to remove the king it sounds like he does have quite some real power.
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This goes back to the necessity of plucking the heirs again, because the next one just came back and immediately made a transatlantic slave trafficking company to employ his feckless relatives.
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Apr 11, 2023 18:13
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Green Wing posted:Defined benefit is a little better but I'm terrified of getting too sick to work. last time I checked the civil service pension scheme pays 2.32% CARE, so if you are at average earnings (like 30k let's say) all of your career on average (salary curves don't work like this but sure) you'd need to be at that level for 45 years to hit £30k annual pension. I had like a 2 day window between CS jobs where I was eligible to cash my CS pension out and I still think back to not doing it (It would have been about 6k) and think I'm a right loving moron. It's all gambling on the not especially reliable chance that you'll ever be old enough to actually receive it.
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big scary monsters posted:If you need a civil war to remove the king it sounds like he does have quite some real power. I would like to think that we have improved on the process since 1650, but I would still prefer not to test it and just wait for them to inbreed to death or something.
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Substantively, the HoC is the (political) power centre of the UK. I'm surprised this has to be stated.
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The death warrant part wasn't really what I was looking to see proven, that's just something you hear thrown around meant to illustrate the monarch's supposed lack of power. It was more the bit where the monarch doesn't influence government. It seems like whenever legislation might impinge on the monarch's interests in a more than ceremonial way, it either doesn't pass or has carve-outs included. If your government always acts in your interests anyway then there's no real need to do anything more.
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I would file that as a variation of capitalist problems, because that's how government treats a lot of people. The monarch has a lot of power but it is the power that a lot of people in elevated positions have.
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OwlFancier posted:I would like to think that we have improved on the process since 1650, but I would still prefer not to test it and just wait for them to inbreed to death or something. IDK, Brenda clocked in 96 years and so far the only result of the inbreeding is male pattern baldness, which is only comorbid with terrible political takes.
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OwlFancier posted:You need 10 years of NI contributions to get the state pension and 35 years to get the full one. That 35 years is not as clear as it might be. I had to get 37 years in because I had a few years of "contracted out" so had to 'buy out' the COPE. I am now into my 39th year (I suppose slightly in to 40 now as we're past 5th April!) I recommend anyone over 50 (which I am sure there are a few on here   checks their records online - unless you're in the security services and can't check online - waiving at those watching from GCHQ) and check regularly. And don't be too quick to buy back years of Class 3 because if you buy the wrong back years, you'll spend over £700 and get absolutely no benefit from it whatsoever. (I am not a financial adviser!)Testro posted:You can buy NI years to build up your state pension, although it requires you to have the money at hand. I think it's £800 for each full year - but you might have years that have partial payments if you did some work or signed on for a period. About that... BE VERY CAREFUL about buying the right years of voluntary! Take advice from at least 3 different sources (you will get 3 different answers haha). Don't assume the body you speak to at the Pensions Forecast place will get it right either. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Apr 11, 2023 |
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Tesseraction posted:IDK, Brenda clocked in 96 years and so far the only result of the inbreeding is male pattern baldness, which is only comorbid with terrible political takes. 
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I think the sausage fingers is more nurture than nature. The nonce thing definitely nature.
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King Charles banned from Crufts after dog eats his fingers.
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Jakabite posted:King Charles banned from Crufts after dog eats his fingers. Normally the touch if a king cures scrofula. In charles cade, distressingly, it causes it.
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Jakabite posted:King Charles banned from Crufts after dog eats his fingers. What else are you meant to feed your KC spaniel?
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The Perfect Element posted:So you're saying neither country is ruled over by a leader with total power? Lol OK then. which number prime minister are we on without an election ?
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Jel Shaker posted:which number prime minister are we on without an election ? When I think total power, I think Liz Truss
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I would probably suggest that the UK being in a constant state of political collapse is evidence that we live in a democracy because it explains why everyone in power is a loving moron who could only reasonably have gotten there by winning a popularity contest.
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the UK has poorly maintained democratic mechanisms which are gummed up with the piss and poo poo of capital and newspapers owned by nazi freaks this fact does not lend any legitimacy to the chinese or russian governments, nor their actions (especially in the last decade) those governments being bad do not mean we should stop fighting for a more just world and a redistribution of wealth
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So about all the marine deaths off of teeside: https://twitter.com/LutsandDefoe/status/1645835518251237384 It's the dredging and dumping of soil from the site of the old chemical works (now a freeport site), with lots of nasty stuff buried in the soil that should have stayed buried forever. https://twitter.com/quentinbudworth/status/1639163224527364097 https://twitter.com/g_gosden/status/1641309111764623360 fuctifino fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Apr 11, 2023 |
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Joe Biden is driving past my house in about an hours time. We’re going out to wave at him
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i demand you make a sign about cornpop
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big scary monsters posted:I know it's all supposedly ceremonial, the king has no real power, would have to sign his own death warrant etc. If all that's really true, then a) what's the purpose of the king?, and b) I'd like to see it proven. The purpose of the King is to stop you asking why all the land in this country is owned by about 200 families by having you think that actually that's good.
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Guavanaut posted:2022 is gonna be our year baybee! Step 1: The Economy is dying, recommend that the government cuts public spending and lowers taxes on the wealthy Step 2: Now that they've done what you told them everything will be back to normal, chart predicted productivity rises accordingly Step 3: Go back to step 1. And in keeping with this theme, the author for this is Janan Ganesh, one of George Osborne's biggest cheerleaders. Just a dumb fucker kept around because he tells the problems that they're not the problem.
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Step 2.5 - recommend that the media blame the small woke trans boats
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OwlFancier posted:You need 10 years of NI contributions to get the state pension and 35 years to get the full one. I have been putting off trying to get full benefits but I feel like I might have to just because of what I keep hearing about elderly care. I might have a total of ten years if that includes university and jobs over 10 years ago, but it'd be scraping it. My other half has always been the financially sensible one, I've kind of survived up to this point by being a sort of limpet trying not to use too much of the other person's money.
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Nuclear Spoon posted:the UK has poorly maintained democratic mechanisms which are gummed up with the piss and poo poo of capital and newspapers owned by nazi freaks The Chinese government recently lifted 800 million people out of rural poverty, provided high speed rail across the entire country, provide a consistent geopolitical obstacle to US-dominant global capitalism, actually punish their billionaires when they get out of line, have an actual future to offer their citizenry, teach marxism-leninism at school and have full acceptance of transgender people, everything that people go out and march for here is being achieved over there, I don't know what more supposed leftwing people would want from a government if not that. The revolution that feeds the children gets my support, and that's what's happening there, nothing is perfect but we in the UK are in no position to criticise a state that is demonstrably further along the road to socialism than us, especially a state that our state made great pains to oppress for hundreds of years and is playing catch-up to get to where it could have been already. All I'm saying is please don't disregard things as "bad" that we only hear about through media that is filtered down to us that has every interest in framing these things as "authoritarian" and "dictatorial", don't surrender to the thought stopping cliches. Cookie Cutter fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Apr 11, 2023 |
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I feel you can absolutely defend the PRC's state capitalist approach's achievements just as you can say that Lenin's NEP was also effective without having to ignore left-wing Chinese people who have legitimate criticisms of the current system. One can agree that Sinophobia is abundant and bad without having to therefore suggest the PRC is infallible.
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Of course, nothing is infallible. But similarly nothing should be dismissed out of hand, especially if that dismissal aligns with the interests of our own ruling classes.
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Cookie Cutter posted:The Chinese government recently lifted 800 million people out of rural poverty, provided high speed rail across the entire country, provide a consistent geopolitical obstacle to US-dominant global capitalism, actually punish their billionaires when they get out of line, have an actual future to offer their citizenry, teach marxism-leninism at school and have full acceptance of transgender people, everything that people go out and march for here is being achieved over there, I don't know what more supposed leftwing people would want from a government if not that. The revolution that feeds the children gets my support, and that's what's happening there, nothing is perfect but we in the UK are in no position to criticise a state that is demonstrably further along the road to socialism than us, especially a state that our state made great pains to oppress for hundreds of years and is playing catch-up to get to where it could have been already. All I'm saying is please don't disregard things as "bad" that we only hear about through media that is filtered down to us that has every interest in framing these things as "authoritarian" and "dictatorial", don't surrender to the thought stopping cliches. i would love for all these things to be as flatly true as you say they are. assuming they are, do you think the xinjiang camps are necessary for these benefits
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Nuclear Spoon posted:i would love for all these things to be as flatly true as you say they are. assuming they are, do you think the xinjiang camps are necessary for these benefits I've got good news for you.
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Lmao. This is the gollywog pub landlords..
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I was never a racist, I was just wearing this because, at the time, it was politically convenient.
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Cookie Cutter posted:have an actual future to offer their citizenry As long as that citizenry doesn’t dissent or question authority in any way, the moment anyone steps out of line, they don’t have much of an actual future
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