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All the slack that allowed a poorly designed society to function is being removed.
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More like you can only recruit from the population you have and if you have a hosed up sick society you'll have a correspondingly hosed up sick recruiting pool
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lobster shirt posted:https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/04/10/the-genesis-of-todays-recruiting-crisis/ lol that the military has less sense than a smol business tyrant running a restaurant. You can't look too hard at who shows up because eventually you're gonna find something you have to act on, so don't drug test anybody.
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skooma512 posted:lol that the military has less sense than a smol business tyrant running a restaurant. You can't look too hard at who shows up because eventually you're gonna find something you have to act on, so don't drug test anybody. If you can’t hire anybody to be a fry cook because nobody can piss clean, you don’t close down the restaurant, you either stop testing or look the other way when they bring in that synthetic stuff.
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https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1645909043200884737 that'll show 'em
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lobster shirt posted:https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/04/10/the-genesis-of-todays-recruiting-crisis/ can't find it but there was some recruiter upset that a dude in a chicken costume flipping a sign in 90 degree heat gave him the finger rather than listen to a recruiting spiel
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redneck nazgul posted:can't find it but there was some recruiter upset that a dude in a chicken costume flipping a sign in 90 degree heat gave him the finger rather than listen to a recruiting spiel Son do you want to spend the rest of your life out here, sweating your balls off, dying of heat, spinning signs for *spits* fried chicken or do you want to do something real something meaningful something that will change you into a corpse in the woods outside fort bragg in ten months
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skooma512 posted:lol that the military has less sense than a smol business tyrant running a restaurant. You can't look too hard at who shows up because eventually you're gonna find something you have to act on, so don't drug test anybody. Company and battalion commanders absolutely understand this concept lol can't find what you don't look for, problem solved
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Anecdotal, most SF guys or at least a large minority have ADHD, a disqualifying condition, and a lot of people have had at least one concussion in their life, so yeah everyone is lying all the time because medicals would disqualify fit motivated kids if they played by the book
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Lostconfused posted:Why is it all in english? Like the Baltics, states that exist to project US power have a weird identity and are always testing “talk poo poo get hit” Even the “native bear” belies that considering the history of the KMT in Formosa.
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Lostconfused posted:Why is it all in english? yellowcar posted:reddit island
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From the people who brought you the Hong Kong protests and the Milk Tea Alliance, it's time to introduce you to Two Bears High-Fiving Each Other.
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Frosted Flake posted:Anecdotal, most SF guys or at least a large minority have ADHD, a disqualifying condition, and a lot of people have had at least one concussion in their life, so yeah everyone is lying all the time because medicals would disqualify fit motivated kids if they played by the book Wow ADHD makes you predisposed to war crimes
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Hubbert posted:From the people who brought you the Hong Kong protests and the Milk Tea Alliance, it's time to introduce you to Two Bears High-Fiving Each Other. 
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This makes me think we need to build more Tesla Tanks
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KomradeX posted:This makes me think we need to build more Tesla Tanks Two barrels on a t62 would've worked if they just tried more dammit
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KomradeX posted:Wow ADHD makes you predisposed to war crimes not when properly medicated Frosted Flake posted:Anecdotal, most SF guys or at least a large minority have ADHD, a disqualifying condition, and a lot of people have had at least one concussion in their life, so yeah everyone is lying all the time because medicals would disqualify fit motivated kids if they played by the book adhd is not disqualifying on its own at the moment. diagnosed adhd does not even require a waiver now i guess? it's gone through a few iterations but at the moment it's only disqualifying if you've taken medication within the past 24 months, had below a 2.0 gpa when unmedicated?? (is this even checked if you dont have diagnosed adhd?), or your doctor has not specified that medication is necessary for work/blah blah. it was at one point i think not even waiverable if you had taken adhd medication over age 14? also, depending, getting prescribed adhd medication after actually enlisting is totally fine? or used to be. maybe it isn't anymore. i genuinely wonder how much of the "only 14% of american kids are fit to serve!" thing is due to kids being fat and broken and how much of it is from disqualifying people over stupid medical poo poo. or maybe recruiters stopped telling kids to lie about the dumb things so they could get through meps i had a big rear end dod medical exam because i almost made a very dumb decision in high school. the actual list of things to be examined included some weird poo poo i've never seen on a physical exam before or since and don't actually seem like something you need to check on teenagers  my examiner did not actually check my anus and rectum for whatever reason but also did not check the mandatory anus check box (the eye examiner was cool and told me i had mild astigmatism but did not put that on the sheet). in the end I never did get my mandatory anus examination and did not make a foolish decision thanks to that doctor. i like to think he knew he was doing me a favor also that exam required absolutely every scrap of medical information on record and any kind of medical thing that happened required more documentation and explanation. uncomplicated appendectomy? little minor parasite infection? had to get stitches on a finger? the list of disqualifications grows more than it shrinks and the ever expanding panopticon means that recruits can't hide dumb poo poo that doesnt matter from meps. that's a good thing and inshallah the us military will keep strangling its own recruiting pipeline
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I had to go through an appeal to sign up too, lost a year of my career I would have been at RMC. Considering the military will almost immediately injure you in ways that accumulate over your career, or lol suddenly and traumatically, I don't get it. Either accept people will game the medical (and encourage recruiters to tip them off), or do away with requirements that would not prevent them from completing training. For example, depression is now something that can get you screened out, but from talking to younger relatives and my friends' kids, pretty much all people in their teens and early twenties have at least some symptoms of depression, some of the time. A career, duty, purpose, physical exercise, good food, would almost certainly help, so why are we treating that as a chronic and disqualifying condition and not just... this is what life is like for young people in our monstrous society?
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Frosted Flake posted:I had to go through an appeal to sign up too, lost a year of my career I would have been at RMC. yep. it's utterly bizarre. im guessing there's some liability minimization that drives whoever the hell makes up the medical disqualifications and then the rest is military beaurocracy being military beaurocracy. im sure some one in the department of "wait where the gently caress did all the potential soldiers go" knows what the problem is. or maybe not? the dodmerb examination form still has bizarre checks that look like they're still from the '70s (did this person you observed for 5 minutes exhibit a personality defect? if so check this box) now kinda curious what china considers fit for enlistment and how its accumulated beaurocratic cruft compares.
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There are guys with one leg working HQ and school jobs and Battalion is filled with guys with crippling PTSD. On the other hand, I know an honest to God operator who was discharged for developed lactose and gluten intolerance. Recruitment and retention are the two biggest deficiencies and the medical side bears that out.
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The military is always happy to lower recruitment standards during a shooting war, though. The fact that they aren't doing so right now leads me to believe that this is just a lot of top brass complaining to get increased budgets, much like the police are always complaining about how hard it is on the mean streets and they need to cut funding to the schools to get all new SUVs for the department.
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Frosted Flake posted:On the other hand, I know an honest to God operator who was discharged for developed lactose and gluten intolerance. Sucks that they can't consume anymore fresh breast milk from women that gives sick gains.
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Special Forces soldiers warned to stop drinking 'unsafe' breast milk sold onlinequote:Experts warn of risks of Special Forces drinking human milk bought on eBay to help them keep fit, get big muscles and avoid injury after commando gets hepatitis
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Cuttlefush posted:now kinda curious what china considers fit for enlistment and how its accumulated beaurocratic cruft compares. iirc china's present problem is that they have too many people trying to enlist into all branches of the pla so they have let go quite a few people around enlistment season
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Danann posted:iirc china's present problem is that they have too many people trying to enlist into all branches of the pla so they have let go quite a few people around enlistment season ah, well
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Danann posted:iirc china's present problem is that they have too many people trying to enlist into all branches of the pla so they have let go quite a few people around enlistment season "my weakness is that I am too much of a people person"
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Danann posted:iirc china's present problem is that they have too many people trying to enlist into all branches of the pla so they have let go quite a few people around enlistment season lol the idea of sabre rattling, out of the blue by the way, China hasn't done anything the public cares about, while our countries are in the state they're in remains hilarious. Idk, I'm sure they think they can rerun the Ukraine playbook, but I don't see it.
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