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Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"

4d3d3d posted:

The fact that everyone isn't sufficiently alarmed and pessimistic is poetically enough sufficient proof that the doomers are correct. We'll never solve this and the reaction of the general public is all you need to look at

One new thing that's fun now that weather's gone truly off the rails in the last three years is everyone going, "Huh! Weather sure is crazy right now," and the elephant in the room is it's everything I've been warning about, and on the same timeline, for the last 15 years. I don't even bother mentioning it anymore, because it's futile. I'm just gonna passively watch it all go down and be like "lol. Lmao"

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Wakko
Jun 9, 2002
Faboo!

500excf type r posted:

What's that old stat, if everyone on earth lived like an American we would need 17 Earth's? I wonder what the 2023 number of Earth's would be

the earth overshoot day folks track this and sadly, it's only 5.1 earths at the moment. but with your help, we can pump those numbers up. while you're at it, mark your calendars to celebrate overshoot day on july 27th with a bbq for all your friends!

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


wow weather sure is crazy all the time now

man i just get sick all the time

drat food is just so expensive lately

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
The "easiest" lever to pull for the "management" of human population is reducing income inequality. The less the income inequality, the lower the reproductive rate. Usually to about replacement rate.

That's why these conversations are so gross and pointless. We know the solution to this apparent problem but the global ruling class aren't going to massively redistribute their wealth, they're gonna start killing people.

500excf type r
Mar 7, 2013

I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.
Lol @ Qatar's 9 Earth's

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


what the gently caress is with all the nihilist bullshit in this thread

This thread feels like it's a few pages from going all Ted K on cspam

A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin
this was always the ted k thread

err
Apr 11, 2005

I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...

Not So Fast posted:

what the gently caress is with all the nihilist bullshit in this thread

This thread feels like it's a few pages from going all Ted K on cspam

:ok:

Wakko
Jun 9, 2002
Faboo!
last stage of bargaining gets pretty ugly but then its on to acceptance!

TehSaurus
Jun 12, 2006

Not So Fast posted:

what the gently caress is with all the nihilist bullshit in this thread

This thread feels like it's a few pages from going all Ted K on cspam

:rubby:

Eason the Fifth
Apr 9, 2020

Not So Fast posted:

what the gently caress is with all the nihilist bullshit in this thread

This thread feels like it's a few pages from going all Ted K on cspam

The spirit of Rime compels you!

celadon
Jan 2, 2023

There’s no need for unnecessary panic, the world just needs to collectively agree to an 80% decline in energy and material consumption on average, with much of the west being closer to 90+%, indefinitely, at least for generations, or billions of people will die.

Traditionally populations have responded well to order of magnitude drops in quality of life so this shouldn’t be a huge issue.

The only alternative is that the most powerful and well armed nation that has ever existed will immiserate and burn the rest of the world to maintain whatever it can for its ruling structure, but it’s unlikely humans will act so selfishly in the face of a global threat

White Rock
Jul 14, 2007
Creativity flows in the bored and the angry!

TehSaurus posted:

and, in all probability, be made by the worst humanity has to offer

Yes, yes, we are all ruled by demons but you or the next generation will still have to BE there, and DO poo poo.

Perry Mason Jar posted:

The "easiest" lever to pull for the "management" of human population is reducing income inequality. The less the income inequality, the lower the reproductive rate. Usually to about replacement rate.

That's why these conversations are so gross and pointless. We know the solution to this apparent problem but the global ruling class aren't going to massively redistribute their wealth, they're gonna start killing people.

Yes when poo poo hits the fan and the global south becomes less and less inhabitable, and when a great migration towards the north starts, we will have some dumbass fascist wanting to build an ever bigger wall, a stronger fort Europa. With machineguns instead of barbed wire fences.

We'll still have to fight that poo poo, it will probably happen during your lifetime.


Is this the consensus of this thread? A total resignation in every way, shape or form? Cuz that is some weak rear end poo poo, and just as escapist as copers.

A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin

White Rock posted:

Yes, yes, we are all ruled by demons but you or the next generation will still have to BE there, and DO poo poo.

Yes when poo poo hits the fan and the global south becomes less and less inhabitable, and when a great migration towards the north starts, we will have some dumbass fascist wanting to build an ever bigger wall, a stronger fort Europa. With machineguns instead of barbed wire fences.

We'll still have to fight that poo poo, it will probably happen during your lifetime.


Is this the consensus of this thread? A total resignation in every way, shape or form? Cuz that is some weak rear end poo poo, and just as escapist as copers.

lol post more

err
Apr 11, 2005

I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...

celadon posted:

There’s no need for unnecessary panic, the world just needs to collectively agree to an 80% decline in energy and material consumption on average, with much of the west being closer to 90+%, indefinitely, at least for generations, or billions of people will die.

Traditionally populations have responded well to order of magnitude drops in quality of life so this shouldn’t be a huge issue.

The only alternative is that the most powerful and well armed nation that has ever existed will immiserate and burn the rest of the world to maintain whatever it can for its ruling structure, but it’s unlikely humans will act so selfishly in the face of a global threat

nihilist spotted :smug:

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
I wasn't born to shoot a gun. I will never kill. I will not, then, allow others to kill on my (direct) behalf. It's the way it is for me. Godspeed to everyone else, I support you.

Erghh
Sep 24, 2007

"Let him speak!"
funny-feeling.mp4

quote:

Tunisia to cut off public water supplies overnight due to drought

TUNIS, March 31 (Reuters) - Tunisia will cut off water supplies to citizens for seven hours a night in response to the country's worst drought on record, state water distribution company SONEDE said in a statement on Friday.

The country's agriculture ministry earlier introduced a quota system for potable water and banned its use in agriculture until Sept. 30, as the country battles with a drought that is now in its fourth year.

Ssthalar
Sep 16, 2007

Wakko
Jun 9, 2002
Faboo!

White Rock posted:

Is this the consensus of this thread? A total resignation in every way, shape or form? Cuz that is some weak rear end poo poo, and just as escapist as copers.

no i can't emphasize enough how important engagement is. this is the Anthropocene mass extinction event and it's only made possible by people making small efforts, every day.

Eason the Fifth
Apr 9, 2020
Geologically the earth will be just fine

err
Apr 11, 2005

I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...

Wakko posted:

no i can't emphasize enough how important engagement is. this is the Anthropocene mass extinction event and it's only made possible by people making small efforts, every day.

It's literally this.

This thread correctly identifies the scope of what is going to happen.

Puppy Burner
Sep 9, 2011

White Rock posted:

Yes, yes, we are all ruled by demons but you or the next generation will still have to BE there, and DO poo poo.

Yes when poo poo hits the fan and the global south becomes less and less inhabitable, and when a great migration towards the north starts, we will have some dumbass fascist wanting to build an ever bigger wall, a stronger fort Europa. With machineguns instead of barbed wire fences.

We'll still have to fight that poo poo, it will probably happen during your lifetime.


Is this the consensus of this thread? A total resignation in every way, shape or form? Cuz that is some weak rear end poo poo, and just as escapist as copers.

Personally, as a sexual minority I plan to die in the death camps constructed by my fellow countrymen or resisting on my way to them.

TehSaurus
Jun 12, 2006

White Rock posted:

Yes, yes, we are all ruled by demons but you or the next generation will still have to BE there, and DO poo poo.

yes and I will be there and do as little harm as I can manage (within my comfortable first world standard of living of course!) but it will also not matter outside of perhaps very slightly delaying the misery of a very small number of people

that’s enough for me, though. if it isn’t for you, you are going to be extremely disappointed

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things
All you weirdos need to go take a nice walk, listen to some birds, watch for some squirrels and other critters, etc.

Yes everything is terrible but can try to enjoy what is surviving.

But also please take videos when you get the flash flood warning too late to do anything about it other than cling to a tree.

ben shapino
Nov 22, 2020

Not So Fast posted:

what the gently caress is with all the nihilist bullshit in this thread

This thread feels like it's a few pages from going all Ted K on cspam

Malthusianism ftw

antipattern
Nov 8, 2019


bdelloid buddy :kimchi:

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

silicone thrills posted:

All you weirdos need to go take a nice walk, listen to some birds, watch for some squirrels and other critters, etc.

Yes everything is terrible but can try to enjoy what is surviving.

But also please take videos when you get the flash flood warning too late to do anything about it other than cling to a tree.

uh oh the nihilism dectector going off

Turtle Sandbox
Dec 31, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Not So Fast posted:

what the gently caress is with all the nihilist bullshit in this thread

This thread feels like it's a few pages from going all Ted K on cspam

You are correct, the future is bright, things are gonna get better, climate change isn't real.

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af_Hj0MDBBQ

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
Please get a reliable data plan so you can livestream your weather catastrophe, in case that the phone can't be recovered

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005

bdeavis and bdellhead

4d3d3d
Mar 17, 2017

Perry Mason Jar posted:

The "easiest" lever to pull for the "management" of human population is reducing income inequality. The less the income inequality, the lower the reproductive rate. Usually to about replacement rate.

That's why these conversations are so gross and pointless. We know the solution to this apparent problem but the global ruling class aren't going to massively redistribute their wealth, they're gonna start killing people.

This is also why cries of MALTHUSIAN are so stupid and misguided. Lowering the birthrate requires helping empower women and lifting people out of poverty and increasing access to contraceptives, i.e. ecosocialism, not killing random swathes of brown people like the 60IQ posters in here think

Thorn Wishes Talon
Oct 18, 2014

by Fluffdaddy

4d3d3d posted:

This is also why cries of MALTHUSIAN are so stupid and misguided. Lowering the birthrate requires helping empower women and lifting people out of poverty and increasing access to contraceptives, i.e. ecosocialism, not killing random swathes of brown people like the 60IQ posters in here think

lol that was Rime

Rime posted:

Fly all you want, peeps, because worthless lives in the tropics are emitting more carbon than the entire EU, purely through their rampant and unstoppable deforestation efforts.

But, y'know, your flight to visit your ailing aunt is the real crime here. :jerkbag:

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

lol "wothless lives", remember when the thread was sucking him off day in day out
good times good times

Hubbert
Mar 25, 2007

At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

celadon posted:

There’s no need for unnecessary panic, the world just needs to collectively agree to an 80% decline in energy and material consumption on average, with much of the west being closer to 90+%, indefinitely, at least for generations, or billions of people will die.

Traditionally populations have responded well to order of magnitude drops in quality of life so this shouldn’t be a huge issue.

The only alternative is that the most powerful and well armed nation that has ever existed will immiserate and burn the rest of the world to maintain whatever it can for its ruling structure, but it’s unlikely humans will act so selfishly in the face of a global threat

BEGONE, MALTHUSIAN!

White Rock
Jul 14, 2007
Creativity flows in the bored and the angry!

TehSaurus posted:

yes and I will be there and do as little harm as I can manage (within my comfortable first world standard of living of course!) but it will also not matter outside of perhaps very slightly delaying the misery of a very small number of people

that’s enough for me, though. if it isn’t for you, you are going to be extremely disappointed

Cool that's all I'm really asking for.

And no I'm not expecting much more than that, I'm just allergic to extreme nihilism, like "humanity is a poison" or "i litter on purpose gently caress you dad".

Puppy Burner posted:

Personally, as a sexual minority I plan to die in the death camps constructed by my fellow countrymen or resisting on my way to them.

And I'll do whatever little bullshit i can to prevent that! Probably won't make a difference though!

I can also reply "lol, lmao" if that feels less disingenuous.

4d3d3d
Mar 17, 2017
"Humanity is poison" isn't nihilism

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A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin
i buy small batch coal and burn it in my yard with a small sign that says gently caress you white rock

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