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Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

For a minute I thought I was in the Terrible Car thread.

Wrong thread

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CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher
Ummmm.....

First to 10, is the BeetleUte in the right or wrong Thread?

Carteret
Nov 10, 2012


Right Thread, needs paint.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.
Right thread

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Could use stacks coming out of the front steps, IMO

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Ummmm.....

First to 10, is the BeetleUte in the right or wrong Thread?

Right idea, execution not so right.

ili
Jul 26, 2003


Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Right idea, execution not so right.

100%, this makes the butel wrong thread material imo. Would have been cool if done well though.

NoWake
Dec 28, 2008

College Slice
It costs like 5k to 5.5k USD to do one of these beetle trucks properly and get something that's both safe & show-worthy. This got slapped together from junk, looks like trash, and will last like a year before it leaks/folds/falls apart. Any saving grace is it's prolonged the life of both donor vehicles by one year.

Wrong thread.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


BeetleUte sucks

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
We've seen Bluetooth driveshaft, now Bluetooth clutch

https://i.imgur.com/dftyOFL.mp4

Large Testicles
Jun 1, 2020

[ASK] ME ABOUT MY LOVE FOR 1'S
Definitely wrong thread on the beetle. All “engine in the wrong place” beetles suck even ute ones

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Powershift posted:

But what if, and hear me out, ..................



Take. All. My. Money. Right. Now.

Crankit
Feb 7, 2011

HE WATCHES
I cant decide but someone said theres good BeetlUtes, can we see some and then we'll all be able to decide with clarity of mind.

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004



Admire the effort, but that looks like absolute poo poo. Wrong thread.

NoWake
Dec 28, 2008

College Slice

Crankit posted:

I cant decide but someone said theres good BeetlUtes, can we see some and then we'll all be able to decide with clarity of mind.

I've been following the manufacturer of the kits for a while, so I've seen quite a few finished ones:




Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


NoWake posted:

I've been following the manufacturer of the kits for a while, so I've seen quite a few finished ones:






These all look great, which makes the original posted look even worse in comparison.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

The Door Frame posted:

I honestly have no idea why you guys feel so old, my last car had a "vacuum controlled" distributor and that was a 93. I think Honda was still putting them into CRV's as late as 01, but I'm not as familiar with B series engines as I used to be

Honda moved away from vacuum advance between 88-90, depending on model.

87 was the last year of vacuum advance for the Prelude, Civic, and Integra (the Integra one caught me off guard, though I think they ran a Civic engine on the 1st gen, so it kinda makes sense). 90 for Accord. They went all in on computer controlled distributors (which is why you had to jump a connector under the dash to set timing instead of unplugging a vacuum line).

01 was the last year for a distributor (and for the B series as a whole) in the CR-V, but it was computer controlled. I think 02 was the last model year any USDM Honda had a distributor (02 Accord with its F23) - pretty much everything went to a K series except for the Civic.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
If you've got 25 minutes to kill, check out this video of a Ford Assembly plant in the 60s.

"A Car Is Born"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkGSv_1RL1w

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



That was a fun watch, than you! My grandfather's last T-bird was a '68.

Dudes on the paint line with -0- -pro.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Having worked in a car factory (though definitely not a traditional one), that's awesome to watch. I'm on my garage PC right now, so no sound, but I'll re-watch with sound once I'm upstairs.

Sir Sidney Poitier
Aug 14, 2006

My favourite actor


wesleywillis posted:

"A Car Is Born"

Also the name of a British series where a guy builds a Westfield over a few episodes. Followed by many other "is born" series like racecar, plane, etc. All worth a watch.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

There's also a book - Turtle 1 - Building a Car in Africa.

I grabbed a hardcover copy at Half Price Books ages ago, but haven't really done more than flip through it.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

PainterofCrap posted:

That was a fun watch, than you! My grandfather's last T-bird was a '68.

Dudes on the paint line with -0- -pro.

I noticed that too, but the grinder dudes were wearing protection which I thought was pretty good.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

It's actually a stock Proton Jumbuck with a EVO bodykit

... you made up all of that, didn't you? That *can't* be a real name.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_Arena
Son of a bitch.

PainterofCrap posted:

Agreed.



I am very sad that we didn't get utes in the US. I don't mean crucks like the Ranchero, either.

The El Camino and Ranchero were literally what "utes" are, at least the light-duty ones, but yes, sad that's all we got.


I love this.


:stare:

Huh. If I were keeping the shitbox...
Nah. I'd rather throw a Ford Ecoboost or GM turbo-4 in there. Easier to source. Maybe.
His is even the same color as mine.

Powershift posted:

A lot of cars had vacuum advance distributors before electronic ignition.

A lot of them had vacuum advance *with* electronic ignition, but I'm guessing you mean computer controlled, not, say HEI. The 4AC in mine is electronic with vac advance.

VideoGameVet posted:

The Maverick is technically a ute.

Huh, I guess it is. Santa Cruz and whatever Kia's is going to be called, too.

Applebees Appetizer posted:

I'm 52 lol but I don't ever remember dealing with a car that had vacuum timing

That seems odd, because if there was a vacuum leak wouldn't it gently caress everything up?

Really?
My '79 RX-7, my '70 Cutlass, my '87 Corolla... the '81 Buick and '78 Monza I used to have. My wife's '78 Celica. Most stuff after the mid-to late '80s though, yeah, they went to full ECU control. The '84 EFI RX-7 I have is still vacuum advance, but '86 and up are not.

Crankit posted:

I cant decide but someone said theres good BeetlUtes, can we see some and then we'll all be able to decide with clarity of mind.

Smyth makes a pretty good kit for them.
https://www.smythkitcars.com/new-beetle-truck-conversion

Yeah, that's them:

NoWake posted:

I've been following the manufacturer of the kits for a while, so I've seen quite a few finished ones:







I haven't done much awesome with my cars lately, but I found these at Walmart:



The Ford pickup is the same as my buddy's I worked on recently. I might paint it to match, and give it to him.

VideoGameVet
May 14, 2005

It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.
Lots of smokers on the line.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Hadlock posted:

Not only do they crack, but unlike electronics where you know if you have a bad ground, vacuum problems are a huge pain in the rear end to track down and it's often easier to replace the whole system

The vacuum advance system on a carbureted engine consists of two parts: a small vacuum canister usually attached directly to the distributor, and a rubber hose probably about 18" long, reaching from the can to the carb.

And if it leaks, the car still runs.

A ~120k mile 327 counts as awesome, right?


The vacuum canister on the distributor.


About 5" of hose, connecting to the little metal tube that runs into the carb base plate.

Godholio fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Apr 12, 2023

Nidhg00670000
Mar 26, 2010

We're in the pipe, five by five.
Grimey Drawer
I got distracted during installation and ran without that hose for over a year, since it it was a stock 350 and I'm used to some more power I just figured that the bad throttle response and low power was how a stock 350 felt.

Boaz MacPhereson
Jul 11, 2006

Day 12045 Ht10hands 180lbs
No Name
No lumps No Bumps Full life Clean
Two good eyes No Busted Limbs
Piss OK Genitals intact
Multiple scars Heals fast
O NEGATIVE HI OCTANE
UNIVERSAL DONOR
Lone Road Warrior Rundown
on the Powder Lakes V8
No guzzoline No supplies
ISOLATE PSYCHOTIC
Keep muzzled...
It occurs to me that I definitely need to make sure the vacuum advance hose is present before I start dicking with the Nova...

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


One for the aussies of a certain age bracket.

Imperador do Brasil
Nov 18, 2005
Rotor-rific



Humphreys posted:

One for the aussies of a certain age bracket.


Hell I’m not from Oz and I even know that car!

I first heard about Frenzal Rhomb in the 90’s when my friend came back from a punk show with a shirt of theirs that read “I bought this shirt before I heard the band”.

I can’t remember when I’ve ever had so much fun.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

This would be fun as hell to drive with a friend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVyekHp7Vfs

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009




MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

“I HAVE TO HAVE A 3500 SERIES DUALLY TO TOW A 4200LB TRAILER” he screamed uselessly into the void.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

My dad apparently towed a Catalina 25 sailboat from Dallas to Belize behind a 1977 Camaro. It's pretty flat the whole way, especially the coastal route, but yeah. May or may not have had a hot rodded 350 in there

According to the internet that car had a 6000# trailer rating and given the size of the boat pretty much checks out

Hadlock fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Apr 13, 2023

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

When I was a kid my mom towed a camper with a Pontiac Grand Prix all over the state of Wisconsin

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

Hadlock posted:

My dad apparently towed a Catalina 25 sailboat from Dallas to Belize behind a 1977 Camaro. It's pretty flat the whole way, especially the coastal route, but yeah. May or may not have had a hot rodded 350 in there

According to the internet that car had a 6000# trailer rating and given the size of the boat pretty much checks out

So a regular 77 Camaro could tow 6000 pounds? Hmmmmm..... According to Wikipedia, the top engine that year was 195hp.

6000 divided by 195 hp = 30.769 pound per hp. So lets round down to 30.

My Tacoma has (I think) 276 HP, therefore it can tow, 276x 30= 8280 pounds.

Corolla is about 160. 160 x 30= 4800.

Nice!! Guess I can tow my boat with the Corolla and save me some fuel.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


wesleywillis posted:

So a regular 77 Camaro could tow 6000 pounds? Hmmmmm..... According to Wikipedia, the top engine that year was 195hp.

6000 divided by 195 hp = 30.769 pound per hp. So lets round down to 30.

My Tacoma has (I think) 276 HP, therefore it can tow, 276x 30= 8280 pounds.

Corolla is about 160. 160 x 30= 4800.

Nice!! Guess I can tow my boat with the Corolla and save me some fuel.

The big malaise ford cars were under 200hp, over 5000lbs and rated to tow 7,000lbs with a trans cooler and lower axle.

torque, transmission capability and braking have a lot more to do with it than power. The natural gas Cascadias are only 400hp at 80,000lbs gcwr

ili
Jul 26, 2003


wesleywillis posted:

So a regular 77 Camaro could tow 6000 pounds? Hmmmmm..... According to Wikipedia, the top engine that year was 195hp.

6000 divided by 195 hp = 30.769 pound per hp. So lets round down to 30.

My Tacoma has (I think) 276 HP, therefore it can tow, 276x 30= 8280 pounds.

Corolla is about 160. 160 x 30= 4800.

Nice!! Guess I can tow my boat with the Corolla and save me some fuel.

Be sure to take some video when you haul the boat out of the water and up the ramp.

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



I towed a Coleman popup with an '87 Subaru DL sedan with an automatic. Worked fine.

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madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Powershift posted:

The big malaise ford cars were under 200hp, over 5000lbs and rated to tow 7,000lbs with a trans cooler and lower axle.

torque, transmission capability and braking have a lot more to do with it than power. The natural gas Cascadias are only 400hp at 80,000lbs gcwr

This is something a lot of people miss or misconstrue.

On fairly flat Florida roads and highways, I've pulled a max of 8000lb (usually less) on the daily behind a 235hp 1/2 ton Dodge Ram. It'll do it, albeit a bit slower than traffic would like. Because of the added cooling capacity for the engine cooling system, transmission, and powersteering, it'd do it all day long in stop and go. Big brakes, good pads, a proper brake controller, and (Allah, PBUH, willing) working brakes on the trailer meant I could stop in a straight line. A beefed up suspension in good repair meant I could keep it under control in the general craziness found driving anywhere in Florida.

A car can tow, sure. Even a FWD car or SUV can accomplish a lot when properly equipped and within a reasonable weight for the vehicle. Load equalizing hitches make this even more possible.

If, IF, you keep inside the capability of the vehicle. If, IF, you know this and realize the shortcomings and strengths of what you've put on the road. A smart and cautious driver helps.

Again, if. If I had done it anywhere else the calculus of how much truck is enough would have changed. In my line of work, a 1 ton GMC/Chevy or Ford box truck will do the same work as a combination. Which one you choose is up to how much money you have, what you are asking it to do weight wise, and how much maneuverability you need.

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