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I'd swap vindi and mech, and probably put druid (and other strong boon providers) a lot higher, but p. good list.
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my hot take is that tempest is s+++ tier when playing content with newbies or bads because i can outheal the vast majority of said content lmao
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You kinda mixed open world and specialist solo builds together but still, very nice list overall. The only thing I would move is spellbreaker - it does't lack sustain at all (compared to many other builds) thanks to Adrenal Health. And yeah salvation vindicator is king. edit: speaking of tier lists, what is the s+ tier lounge? They are currently on sale and I am thinking of picking up one. I am a boring human (+I love Divinity's Reach) so I was thinking Royal Terrace. Do any of the others have some significant perks (I know Mistlock has a fractals portal)? Mr. Neutron fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Apr 13, 2023 |
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if you do wvw, the armistice bastion is amazing because you can see the maps and use faction chat in it, and all the wvw vendors are there mistlock is obviously the best if you do fractals for the easy portal and fractal vendors. always nice when you teleport there, do some fractals, and then return to exactly where you were in the overworld later if you don't care about either of those, i think royal terrace is the smallest of the bunch, which means everything is really clumped together for easy access that said, mistlock sanctuary has the beach ball minigame, and a bonus skill that lets you jump to all the npcs real quick
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yeah tempest is amazing in group content, absolutely on the level of like blood scourge for making GBS threads out healing.Mr. Neutron posted:You kinda mixed open world and specialist solo builds together but still, very nice list overall. The only thing I would move is spellbreaker - it does't lack sustain at all (compared to many other builds) thanks to Adrenal Health. and yeah re: lounges mistlock is pretty good balance between 'everyone nearby' and 'can teleport to it and then back,' plus access to the capital cities and fractals. though it can take a bit longer to load during prime time because it's the most popular lounge. If you don't care about fractal access, Thousand Seas gives the easiest access to the largest number of maps (including lion's arch for fractals), and also gives the teleport back feature, plus a jade bot workbench.
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re: open world builds I'd personally put Willbender in the top of S or in S+. Since I made a guy with this build it's been my go to for doing lws4 bounties and just living through anything in events. It generates full might, fury, and vuln for itself and quickly reaches ~25 stacks of burning which makes it feel bursty even as a condi spec. Amazing healing and good defensive tools with the f2 and f3 willbender abilities on top of Litanty of Wrath and Bow of Truth. The downside is that it's stuck using core guardian weapons which are not interesting or fun. Soulbeast only has one melee ability typically, axe or torch 5. Otherwise it can play fully ranged with mainhand axe, long bow, warhorn, and shortbow. The ability to unmerge from the pet and and have it tank tougher mobs is very useful, champion bounty type stuff becomes very simple. I don't think it's ultra high tier, but it always feels extremely solid when I play it. Spellbreaker has permanent stability and feels amazing to play in events where you can leech boons from other players. You easily eat through break bars, which is nice in open world where so few other players use cc. Not as great when truly solo because it has no real boon generation other than the EoD protocol stations. Also I can recommend thousand seas pavilion lounge. It has the return to map function of mistlock with an extra teleport to a bunch of different zones and having all the fishing bait on a single vendor is nice if you fish ever. It also doesn't strip away the offensive/defensive protocol buffs from EoD, which a minor annoyance I had with mistlock.
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Celestial Vinidcator is incredible for open world. Can solo anything.
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I wish I liked Revenant more but I feel like if I dislike the Legends' constant banter it means the class prolly not for me
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The Gendaran airship is nice for hanging out and playing bank tetris and then noticing chat telling people to go to a waypoint for the ley line and a free mystic coin.
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binge crotching posted:The Gendaran airship is nice for hanging out and playing bank tetris and then noticing chat telling people to go to a waypoint for the ley line and a free mystic coin. It's kind of dumb that that one zone gets: leyline, scarlet incursions, joko incursions, and beetle racing. It's an absolutely stacked zone.
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Elementalist has ruined mages/sorcerors in so many other games for me. I have to specialize in one element? Boring.
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MajorBonnet posted:Elementalist has ruined mages/sorcerors in so many other games for me. I have to specialize in one element? Boring. Funny thing is, I want at least one spec of Ele that does just that. All in, balls to the wall commitment to 1 to 2 elements (chosen through the trait lines) where all the utilities and weapon skills drive that single/duo mindedness - maybe even a transformation into an elemental avatar for proper skill usage much like Weave Self's design idea. Full removal of the unselected elements.
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pointlessone posted:Funny thing is, I want at least one spec of Ele that does just that. All in, balls to the wall commitment to 1 to 2 elements (chosen through the trait lines) where all the utilities and weapon skills drive that single/duo mindedness - maybe even a transformation into an elemental avatar for proper skill usage much like Weave Self's design idea. Full removal of the unselected elements. that's just staff power build, isn't it? camp fire, spam 2 and 5 on cooldown between autoattacks lol
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I just want to throw fireballs at people.
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tarbrush posted:I just want to throw fireballs at people. This guy gets it. I want to create massive raging firestorms, become the unmovable embodiment of stone, tap into the essence of ice to trap my enemies and water to heal my friends, and imbue myself with the speed of lightning to strike my foes quickly. I want to be the element, not just channel it.
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Meeko posted:Everyone loves tier lists and debating them and calling the poster wrong and dumb, so here's my tier list of open world builds. Maybe it'll help you figure out what you, the reader, want to play next. You're wrong and dumb, and thank you for posting your (wrong and dumb) list that I definitely didn't read and think about because it's wrong and dumb. As an addition to your (note: wrong and dumb) list - it'd be helpful when listing stuff to note the actual gear spec. Like I can assume you're talking about celestial vindicator, but I'd assume the same isn't said of Herald or Virtuoso. I honestly don't find condi pistol mech anything to write home about but he's still sitting in cele gear aside from the weapons. My firebrand is super mediocre in open world but he's also in full ritualist so no toughness. Meeko posted:i did but for the most part what makes a good specalist solo build makes for a good open world build too Aside from specs that need a specific boon to work I don't find much difference in the two. Healing isn't a given unless you're in the stack and so many people stand out of the stack that's it's often not true there either. I just assume if I'm not raiding then 100% of my survival is my problem.
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MajorBonnet posted:Elementalist has ruined mages/sorcerors in so many other games for me. I have to specialize in one element? Boring. I don't disagree but I also think that kind of ruined elementalist in a lot of ways in GW2, making it a bastard problem child that needs only the slightest nudge to be broken in pvp and a squishy fragile pain in the rear end to play in pve that has to cycle through elements nonstop. It's kind of the example of the problems that come with letting a class have access to too much baseline. Truga posted:that's just staff power build, isn't it? it is in theory but staff remains anemic even after the buffs. In open world it's just miserably slow and for some reason still saddled with 3 target cleave autos, and in raids/fractals/strikes it's only really viable on a rather demanding build that abuses weaver's bullshit and dual skills and has to full channel meteor shower which is lol and lmao on many fights. the only weapon that can realistically camp fire is like, scepter, and in fairness it's pretty solid. It doesn't quite hit the niche of "i am fire wizard blah blah anet buff please 42069 hours" but hey it's the best we got. Mailer posted:You're wrong and dumb, and thank you for posting your (wrong and dumb) list that I definitely didn't read and think about because it's wrong and dumb. Good points. If people're interested I can probably Effort Post up a collection of all the various Good Open World builds/weapons, since i've played just about all of them at this point because I have some sort of crippling alt addiction. also yeah celestial pistol mech is pretty buns, pistol has an unusually hard condi skew and absolute dogshit power ratios. it has like less than half the power scaling most condi focused weapons do, even, and the way the mech scales doesn't play nicely in the slightest w/ cele for the condi traits. lordhizen's build is the only one that makes it work and that's a weird bastard of a build. Meeko fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Apr 14, 2023 |
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tarbrush posted:I just want to throw fireballs at people. So close yet so far. I want to just poo poo lightning everywhere. Fresh air tempest was probably my favourite ele build except for the fact that if you hosed up you were just dead. 0 survivability.
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Demon_Corsair posted:So close yet so far. I want to just poo poo lightning everywhere. Fresh air tempest was probably my favourite ele build except for the fact that if you hosed up you were just dead. 0 survivability. Bring back lava font on down state and it's a feature not a bug.
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Meeko posted:lordhizen's build is the only one that makes it work and that's a weird bastard of a build. That's what I used. To be generous, I'd call his reel of boss footage selective. It worked ok slow burning against things that didn't summon adds but that leaves out the bulk of the bounty roster. Even then I found it easier to use the rifle just so I could smash breakbars. In terms of gear I was only talking about the cele/condi/power split. Anyone with experience enough to have a dozen alts probably already knows what you mean when you talk about "open world vindicator", but marking stuff as cele (and therefore booster) goes a long way towards clarity. Outside of that it's just power/condi, so just the small change from Mechanist to Mechanist (power) or Mechanist (cele) where there could be ambiguity is immensely helpful in the context of discussing professions in terms of soloing or ease of play. Once you know that you can go hit up the usual places and read all the gritty details if you want to build it.
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ive been a bit scared of playing elementalist specs because they have a reputation for being really fiddly and my RSI risk is higher than ever that and i'm full on character slots, don't want to delete any I have, and don't feel like buying more
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I'm testing the Royal Terrace via the 2 week pass and it kind of annoys me that it dumps you in a spot where you stil need to climb a set of stairs to get to the bank/vendors. Are all the lounges like that?
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spacecamp contains no stairs whatsoever, but I'm sure you can find something there to complain about
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Hello Sailor posted:spacecamp contains no stairs whatsoever, but I'm sure you can find something there to complain about   
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Heh that just reminded me - EverQuest straight up has a spaceship in one of the main towns, from day one. People complained about the third expansion being weird because "cats on the moon", but I hate to tell them, EQ was always weird. This post has nothing to do with GW2.
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I see the official forums whine a lot about GW2 being "too scifi," especially now with New Kaineng and it's just like Y'all have seen Rata Sum right?
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Hello Sailor posted:spacecamp contains no stairs whatsoever, but I'm sure you can find something there to complain about Contains no bot bench, forcing me to view a whole loading screen. xZAOx posted:Heh that just reminded me - EverQuest straight up has a spaceship in one of the main towns, from day one. People complained about the third expansion being weird because "cats on the moon", but I hate to tell them, EQ was always weird. I mean "floating building" was present in a lot of places not explained by being a spaceship. EQ was extremely high fantasy and also a terrible game that explains a lot of the terrible traditions that persist today. The etymology of nerf is probably rooted a lot deeper but for me the birth was always when some guy told a Verant dev that a druid leveled without being in (relative) agony and they basically said "well, gently caress that!" I may have EQPTSD.
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Anyone else playing sword weaver with the class being partially disabled? my dps is way higher than usual. the atunement system is messed up so when you switch elements you get access to the 3rd skill dual attack for a second until it switches to a single element. those are usually the beefiest spells with the class and not having to wait to fully attune between them has me melting mobs.
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nine years in and we've got queues for open world maps now, no more spamming 'join world' over and over
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gandlethorpe posted:Unravel is a really underrated utility for that reason unravel only gives you the full element attunement i thought? anyway it stopped doing it within 10 minutes of my game today and instead worked as is should, rip my dpsboy life.
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If any of you have Twitch Prime, the new GW2 Drops is the original GW2 Logo shirt outfit. Having been effectively away from the game since Wintersday, did the last months change anything in the WvW meta? Meaning: is Boonbrand still the go to support? And what are good roamers atm, that are not Warrior or Ele elites? Luggage fucked around with this message at 13:46 on Apr 19, 2023 |
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Luggage posted:If any of you have Twitch Prime, the new GW2 Drops is the original GW2 Logo shirt outfit. If someone doesn't need their code, I'd be happy to take it off your hands. I like soulbeast as a roamer, can't beat the range on longbow
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Edit: This isn't the pathfinder thread, whoops. So how about them elementalists? lotta buttons, real squishy, less trampy than the gw1 ele. Guildenstern Mother fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Apr 19, 2023 |
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There's some body horror going on with Charr recently. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/129787532702515200/1098746894190129242/howdoizipline.mp4 
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Yeah I don't know what is going on, but I found a bug too after coming out of mistlock. All mounts were super floaty, except for the griffon which fixed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL5sA_rJwFc
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