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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Lol jesus the Metabiota link

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Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

Best Friends posted:

I read some accounts of branch Davidians (not related to the assault, just day to day life) and they were terrifying, because

1) the believers come across as completely regular American idiots. I guess I had a cult member stereotype and was thinking only a certain kind of desperate person was vulnerable, but no

2) they didn’t even seem to like David Koresh. It did not take a mega charismatic figure to lead the cult, just a loser with gumption.

in combination the impression I got was “I just want to live my life, but drat it, Jesus Christ reincarnated and he needs me. and I don’t even like the guy!”

it’s like there is just a button in the brain that can be pushed.

the imperial core provides fertile ground for cults because empires alienate citizens in their core and thus deprive them of ecological structure, replacing it with systems of synthetic ecological variables that facilitate the reproduction of empire and only incidentally the individual. thus, in a sense, all americans are a certain kind of vulnerable person.

multistability
Feb 15, 2014
https://twitter.com/jeff_kaye/status/1646290762592837632?t=qCFYap27RyriXzkMn6ugnA&s=19

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp

Perry Mason Jar posted:

Yeah, Pitt plays Harrer. In the movie Allied, Pitt's character falls in love with a Nazi spy and he loves her too much to kill her, even after learning she's a Nazi. :shobon:

He's a known abuser and a likely asset alongside ex-wife Jolie. Their Jolie-Pitt Foundation is worryingly interested in Haiti :tinfoil:

Mr. & Mrs. Smith was a documentary

RandolphCarter posted:

was is Koresh that was called Mr Retardo as a kid, or was that some other cult leader?

lmfao

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004


https://twitter.com/jeff_kaye/status/1646297151809683457

drat that's blatant

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

Dave Chaddock writes about how the US publisher left in references to the deleted chapter elsewhere in the text which is how he twigged that something was wrong

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




resident evil 5 was a documentary

Futanari Damacy
Oct 30, 2021

by sebmojo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NPx6SBx5ko

mark immune
Dec 14, 2019

put the teacher in the cope cage imo

multistability posted:

https://usrtk.org/risky-research/ebola-outbreak-origins/

A couple of thoughts:

Kristian Andersen and Robert Garry are two of the authors of the "Proximal Origin" paper dreamed up by Fauci in a secretive conference call at the start of the covid pandemic, which attempted to debunk rumours of a lab origin of SARS-CoV-2. It is scientifically worthless, basically just propaganda

Metabiota, gently caress where do we start. Metabiota has a contract to run biolabs in Ukraine and Georgia through the US DoD's DTRA programme and received more than $500,000 from an investment fund co-founded by Hunter Biden called Rosemont Seneca. Even "Politifact" admits this is true btw

Metabiota's founder is a guy called Nathan Wolfe, an associate of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell (see I'm making it directly thread-relevant). Wolfe is a co-founder of Maxwell's "charity" TerraMar who also sat on the board of EcoHealth Alliance at one point. Anyway in 2011 Wolfe wrote a book called "The Viral Storm: The Dawn of a New Pandemic Age", in the acknowledgements section of the book he gives thanks to none other than Epstein and Boris Nikolic, Bill Gates's bodyguard and executor of Epstein's will, for some reason

Why do the same names keep loving popping up with this poo poo!!!

dang. hopefully no one finds a reason to shitcoat this informat--RUSSIAN DISINFO! HUNTER BIDENS PENIS!

Laterite
Mar 14, 2007

It's Gutfest '89
Grimey Drawer

lmao

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




option 1: the us is deploying viruses the same way it does drugs and armed violence to keep asia and africa weak

option 2: the us is bad at containing viruses so just does this research in places where it doesnt care about outbreaks

option 3: option 2 is the most cost effective and covert means of achieving option 1 - the lab is obviously justified did you see how much virus is around here for it to fight?!!

multistability
Feb 15, 2014

Real hurthling! posted:

option 1: the us is deploying viruses the same way it does drugs and armed violence to keep asia and africa weak

option 2: the us is bad at containing viruses so just does this research in places where it doesnt care about outbreaks

option 3: option 2 is the most cost effective and covert means of achieving option 1 - the lab is obviously justified did you see how much virus is around here for it to fight?!!

Option 2 is demonstrably true given how many times viruses have escaped from labs since they started doing this research but it quickly runs into the issue of determining why they're doing this research in the first place. They say it's to develop vaccines and other therapeutics but eg aerosolizing pathogens such as Ebola and H5N1 etc is basically indistinguishable from bioweapons research (ie it's "dual use") and so much of it is funded by the military. The rest is funded by pharmaceutical companies who obviously have a perverse incentive to see a return on their investment as well

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
The Branch Davidians were a regular boring sad sex crime cult. Heaven's Gate, now that's a fun death cult

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

ContinuityNewTimes posted:

The Branch Davidians were a regular boring sad sex crime cult. Heaven's Gate, now that's a fun death cult

iirc, heaven's gate has a 9/11 tie in. something to do with the guy who rented the mansion to the cult also was a visa sponsor for some of the hijackers. at least that is what I remember.

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT
This poo poo is like Star Wars. Every character is related.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




they caught the latest military leaker because he photographed docs on a granite counter and they looked at the social media of people with access and saw the same counter

Futanari Damacy
Oct 30, 2021

by sebmojo

Real hurthling! posted:

option 1: the us is deploying viruses the same way it does drugs and armed violence to keep asia and africa its own communities weak

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

Real hurthling! posted:

they caught the latest military leaker because he photographed docs on a granite counter and they looked at the social media of people with access and saw the same counter

:effort:

multistability
Feb 15, 2014
Presented without comment

2010:

"The Viral Hemorrhagic Fever Consortium (VHFC) was established in 2010 as a result of a founding five-year $15 million contract awarded to Tulane University by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, which is part of the National Institute of Health. … The consortium has since been expanded to include partners from several other consortia, including The Africa Centre Of Excellence for Genomics of Infectious Diseases, The Center for Viral Systems Biology, and The Viral Hemorrhagic Fever Immunotherapeutic Consortium. Medical institutions that are part of VHFC include Kenema Government Hospital, Irrua Specialist Teaching Hospital, and various other partners in West Africa."
https://vhfc.org/consortium/

^ "The Kenema laboratory stands in the grounds of the Kenema Government Hospital (KGH). The lab, but not the hospital, has been operated by the US-based Viral Hemorrhagic Fever Consortium (VHFC) since 2010. Though there is an interesting continuity–a viral hemorrhagic fever laboratory was run by the US CDC in Kenema between 1976 up to Sierra Leone’s civil war in the 1990s."
https://www.independentsciencenews.org/health/did-west-africas-ebola-outbreak-of-2014-have-a-lab-origin/ 

^ "In addition to Tulane University, academic partners include Scripps Research, Harvard University, Redeemer’s University, Broad Institute, La Jolla Institute of Immunology, and University of Texas Medical Branch, as well as industry partner Zalgen Labs."
https://vhfc.org/consortium/ 

2014:

10 March 2014:

"On March 10, 2014, hospitals and public health services in Guéckédou and Macenta alerted the Ministry of Health of Guinea … about clusters of a mysterious disease characterized by fever, severe diarrhea, vomiting, and an apparent high fatality rate."
https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa1404505

18 March 2014:

"Médecins sans Frontières in Europe was notified and sent a team, which arrived in Guéckédou on March 18. Epidemiologic investigation was initiated, and blood samples were collected and sent to the biosafety level 4 laboratories in Lyon, France, and Hamburg, Germany, for virologic analysis."
https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa1404505

20 March 2014:

"The National Institutes of Health (NIH) has awarded a five-year grant of up to $28 million to establish a new center for excellence to find an antibody “cocktail” to fight the deadly Ebola virus. The project, which involves researchers from 15 institutions, will be led by Erica Ollmann Saphire, professor at The Scripps Research Institute (TSRI). ... The other institutions and scientists on the NIH National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) Centers for Excellence in Translational Research (CETR) program grant, number U19AI109762, include Gary Kobinger at Public Health Agency of Canada, John Dye at U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, Kartik Chandran and Jonathan Lai at Albert Einstein College of Medicine of Yeshiva University, Leslie Lobel at Ben Gurion University, Julius Lutwama at Uganda Virus Research Institute, Robert Garry and James Robinson at Tulane University, Thomas Geisbert at University of Texas Medical Branch, Yoshihiro Kawaoka at University of Wisconsin–Madison and Gene Olinger at NIAID. Biopharmaceutical companies on the grant include Mapp Biopharmaceutical (Larry Zeitlin), Zalgen Labs (Luis Branco) and Cangene (Cory Nykiforuk)."
https://www.scripps.edu/news-and-events/press-room/2014/20140320ollmannsaphire.html

21 March 2014:

"laboratory tests for Ebola disease only became available in West Africa on March 21st, 2014."
https://www.independentsciencenews.org/health/did-west-africas-ebola-outbreak-of-2014-have-a-lab-origin/

^ "On March 21, 2014, the Guinea Ministry of Health reported the outbreak of an illness characterized by fever, severe diarrhea, vomiting, and a high case-fatality rate (59%) among 49 persons. Specimens from 15 of 20 persons tested at Institut Pasteur in Lyon, France, were positive for an Ebola virus by polymerase chain reaction. Viral sequencing identified Ebola virus (species Zaïre ebolavirus), one of five viruses in the genus Ebolavirus, as the cause."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5779383/

23 March 2014:

"On March 23, 2014, the World Health Organization (WHO) reported cases of Ebola Virus Disease (EVD) in the forested rural region of southeastern Guinea. The identification of these early cases marked the beginning of the West Africa Ebola epidemic, the largest in history."
https://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/history/2014-2016-outbreak/index.html

^ "As its name implies, all prior outbreaks of Zaire Ebola were in the central African equatorial zone (the Congo basin). At its closest, this classical Zairean Ebola zone is 3,000 km from Guinea. Hence Zaire Ebola’s appearance in West Africa was a striking and very unexpected development."
https://www.independentsciencenews.org/health/did-west-africas-ebola-outbreak-of-2014-have-a-lab-origin/

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/DanielDumbrill/status/1646092828890787845

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006


That doesn't sound like the kind of regime the usa would back

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

Gotta wonder how Penn would feel about that today

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat
New Netflix documentary on Boston Bombing? Curious what it covers.

E: I've been prepping dinner (in hindsight, yikes: about to start the pressure cooker) and so I missed some but I think I caught it when it gets relevant; episode 2 at 39 minutes is where a guy said, "ah, the guy the fsb mentioned"

Corky Romanovsky has issued a correction as of 11:28 on Apr 14, 2023

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:

Gotta wonder how Penn would feel about that today

He's not half the man he used to be.

I Miss Snausages
Mar 8, 2005
Volvorific!
Why are "dealers" putting Fentanyl in weed again? As an opiate addict in recovery, I only knew two people who would do this for fun. It seems like something you would not want to give the "just the weed" people and not say anything. Is this some low level cartel war against the gov? Another bad state actor? This the CIA doing this to give us a reason to hate China more? After chips from China , pivot to a XI-Cartel link killing Americans for the nightly news?
Just curious.

Private Cumshoe
Feb 15, 2019

AAAAAAAGAGHAAHGGAH

Toupee Groupie posted:

Why are "dealers" putting Fentanyl in weed again?

they are not

Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010




But cross contamination happens

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan
Hi, I love Michael Parenti, and I love him popping up in this thread as the anti-Jolly West

I Miss Snausages
Mar 8, 2005
Volvorific!

so this is just families denying the dead had bigger issues before the OD? A friends father died, along with another kid here in town. The police are saying the fathers hair tox report shows no sign of opiate use. Supposedly the same for the kid.

Private Cumshoe
Feb 15, 2019

AAAAAAAGAGHAAHGGAH
way more believable than intentional or even cross contamination with a lazily used scale

fentanyl in the weed :lmao:

I'd be more worried about all carpet fibers

multistability
Feb 15, 2014
https://youtu.be/Xq-knHXSKYY

Just remembered Avicii made a video about child trafficking then stabbed himself to death with a broken bottle in Oman lol

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat
who

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

deep state killed Avicii for flying too close to the sun yep. absolutely.

multistability
Feb 15, 2014

my bony fealty posted:

deep state killed Avicii for flying too close to the sun yep. absolutely.

That's right op

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

my bony fealty posted:

deep state killed Avicii for flying too close to the sun yep. absolutely.

Don't forget Chester Bennington and Chris Cornell

500excf type r
Mar 7, 2013

I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.
Avicii was invited to the traffick and rape club and turned it down and told chester who told Chris and the loose ends were cleaned up slowly. Scott Wieland might also have been involved maybe

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

gradenko_2000 posted:

Don't forget Chester Bennington and Chris Cornell

werent they gonna make a movie about some old thing?

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

I am interested in most phases of data processing.
When I was a kid I was at OMSI (science education center/museum) in Portland. One of the exhibits had a quiz thing where one of the questions was like: "The smallpox virus has been eradicated. Should samples be kept it secure labs for further study?" I, a dumbass, thought "No, it's been eradicated, why risk it leaking?" and selected "No, samples should not be kept."

Then I moved the slider and it said "Wrong, it's important to keep and study samples to learn more about the virus."

multistability
Feb 15, 2014
We need to learn how to aerosolize Ebola to understand the evolutionary mechanisms behind how Ebola *might* become aerosolized in nature even though this has literally never happened in the whatever thousands of years Ebola has existed in nature... to protect ourselves against it. Even though it doesn't exist. Same with shoving furin cleavage sites into SARS-like coronaviruses lol I'm very concerned about public health

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Maed
Aug 23, 2006


gradenko_2000 posted:

Don't forget Chester Bennington and Chris Cornell

and capital steez and mac miller

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