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FlapYoJacks posted:Millenials are not 40-year-olds who grew up in the 80s. They are always 20 years old. I saw it driving through a parking lot after physical therapy for my 38 year old shoulder, on the way to pick up my kid from school. Had to drive closer because of my bad eyesight and lean my gray haired head out the window to take the picture. It was on a university campus, so it's extremely likely the driver is younger than me. OH and I was driving my manual transmission truck.
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Yes it's the millennials that created personal luxury coupes and other market forces in the 70s that dropped manual take rates into the single digits
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Apr 13, 2023 20:33
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The sales of stick shift cars has been dropping for 40 years. It was only 35% in 1980. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/24/business/stick-shift-collector-cars.html I learned to drive in automatics. You know why? That's what my parents bought, because that's what they preferred. If boomers think we are dumb because we can't all drive manuals, it's their fault for not teaching us. Same with participation trophies. If we are snow flakes for getting them, its their fault for handing them out. Edit: I didn't load the new page and made the same point as the above posters. oops. deoju fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Apr 13, 2023 |
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Apr 13, 2023 20:48
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I hate that so much.
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Darchangel posted:I hate that so much. 
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Apr 13, 2023 21:50
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Well it's not wrong 
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Apr 13, 2023 22:50
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The funny thing is you could, at least until recently, get an Escape with tan leather. We have a 2020 Escape Titanium with the same interior colors as that Merc.  Guess brain worms are terminal in some folks.
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Imperador do Brasil posted:The funny thing is you could, at least until recently, get an Escape with tan leather. We have a 2020 Escape Titanium with the same interior colors as that Merc. excuse me they said "everything they touch" must be beige ya know, including the weatherstripping that everyone loves to touch all the time
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Apr 14, 2023 03:49
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I've gotta say the tan and black looks so much better than tan everywhere.
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If you can't impromptu learn to drive a manual in 2 or 3 brutally harsh launches on a car you just stole and don't give a poo poo about I don't know what to tell you. Pretty amazing talent that, driving a manual - only 90% of the rest of the world drives that transmission solely because there are no automatic transmissions in the developing world. It must be pretty tricky to learn, these stupid kids with their 'computers' and their '3d printers' could never figure out such a feat! It took me all of 1.75 tries in my uncle's Saab 900 Turbo in 1988 or whenever and that's only because I felt nervous peeling out with him in the car with me.
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If I were to learn to steal cars... it would be a career improving skill to take at least a few goes at a manual first off.
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I assume the first time car thieves are completely put off by it, this is why no Acura Integra Type-R's are ever stolen. Phew!
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I’ve had a vehicle transport driver, with his own truck and car transport trailer, show up and not be able to drive a manual and have to have me pull them on.
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deoju posted:The sales of stick shift cars has been dropping for 40 years. It was only 35% in 1980. And yet a significant number of millennials DO know how to drive stick. Its part of why that tire cover is so stupid.
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Apr 14, 2023 13:31
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CommieGIR posted:And yet a significant number of millennials DO know how to drive stick. Its part of why that tire cover is so stupid. I’d say outside the US (in Europe at least) the majority of millennials and drivers in general can and do drive manuals.
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Apr 14, 2023 14:01
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Manual trans is more of an anti-valet device these days. I don't hit a lot of spots with valet parking, but I'm 1 for 4 so far.
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Lord Ludikrous posted:I’d say outside the US (in Europe at least) the majority of millennials and drivers in general can and do drive manuals. the type of person that thinks a stick shift is an anti-millenial-theft device has never once considered the possibility of other countries existing
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Enos Cabell posted:Manual trans is more of an anti-valet device these days. I don't hit a lot of spots with valet parking, but I'm 1 for 4 so far. The car wash I used to go to had you get out of the car and they drove it into the system. Only once did someone get into it and not know how to drive a manual. I am impressed by that.
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I taught my stepson how to drive a manual by telling him the clutch is a reverse brake pedal and not to slam the fucker up whenever he changes gears. He was off and going in less than 10 minutes. As a 36-year-old millennial, I drove a stick all around the steep back roads of Italy for three weeks without issue in a 1988 Fiat Panda I borrowed from a friend. The only issue I had was some very steep starts, and for that, judicial use of the parking brake was used. If anything, people above 50 would have more issues driving sticks because of medical mobility issues.
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FlapYoJacks posted:I taught my stepson how to drive a manual by telling him the clutch is a reverse brake pedal and not to slam the fucker up whenever he changes gears. "But that's how they do it in the Fast and the Furious!" - me, known dumbass, aged 15, about to crash a car for the first time in my life
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FlapYoJacks posted:I taught my stepson how to drive a manual by telling him the clutch is a reverse brake pedal and not to slam the fucker up whenever he changes gears. He was off and going in less than 10 minutes. I’m 40 and my dad taught me how to drive stick and now he’d be screwed cause his knees are hosed. To be totally fair my knees aren’t great either
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FlapYoJacks posted:I taught my stepson how to drive a manual by telling him the clutch is a reverse brake pedal and not to slam the fucker up whenever he changes gears. He was off and going in less than 10 minutes. Similar to that for me learning. My dad explained the mechanics of it, I observed, but I didn't get a hands on. I then was offered to drive a work truck that was stick shift and I did the right thing and lied and said I could and just figured it out. I didn't know what the bite felt like, but it was a 1993 Toyota pickup, so it was very forgiving. I am going to teach my wife how to drive the Binder this year, which is also a forgiving vehicle to learn on, yet hugely intimidating for her. I sincerely think it's going to be fun.
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StormDrain posted:Similar to that for me learning. My dad explained the mechanics of it, I observed, but I didn't get a hands on. I then was offered to drive a work truck that was stick shift and I did the right thing and lied and said I could and just figured it out. I didn't know what the bite felt like, but it was a 1993 Toyota pickup, so it was very forgiving. Lol, I drove my son's car (A 1992 gold Subaru Legacy manual) to a church parking lot 5 miles across town while he followed in our S40 automatic under the guise I was going to teach him how to drive stick. I then taught him about the mechanics of driving a stick, got him to not stall a few times, hopped in the S40 and told him “see you at home!” He showed up 30 minutes later not terribly happy with me. It worked though!
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I drove stick for the first time when I was about 5 or 6. My job was to move the family car while my parents were loading up hay on the trailer. Thankfully we were on a slippery field because there was quite a bit of wheel spin. It probably still wasn't very fun for my dad, standing on top of a two meter tall hay pile surrounded by wooden spears. We didn't have a proper hay transport trailer, so he just put traditional hay poles around the edges.
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My dad tried to teach me in his 90s civic and I was terrible at it and also very self conscious because I am a perfectionist and don't like people watching me learn something, which goes very poorly with needing help to learn. Also I didn't want to hurt his clutch. I gave up and ended up learning a few years later in my 5 ton in a mall parking lot so I could drive it home after buying it. Remembering this, when my wife wanted to learn, we waited till I had a completely roached Subaru I was going to put to the sawzall in a month anyways and she learned in that. Third and fifth synchro hubs were already totally smoked, clutch was well used and going in the scrap, didn't even care if she got rattled by making a mistake and drove it straight into a tree, so much less stress about doing damage and easier to learn in.
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I learned by being forced to drive my friend's EF9 with a swapped B16 with a puck clutch and a lightened flywheel while he was drunk. It was stall or burnout. No in-between.
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My first foray into manuals was popping wheelies with grandma's international tractor. CommieGIR posted:And yet a significant number of millennials DO know how to drive stick. Its part of why that tire cover is so stupid. As a millennial my house had a goddamn stick. The meme is dumb af.
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I learned to drive stick driving a 87 Nissan sentra home after my parents' friends sold it to me. I guess someone had explained the mechanics of it already because after a couple stalls on a side street I figured it out quickly.
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I taught myself on a truck, after riding motorcycles for a few years it wasn't hard to figure out, same concept but in reverse of feet/hands
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Around 1984 learned stick in my pops 1981 Ford F-150, that fucker had a ridiculously stiff and painful clutch that made the VW bugs and poo poo after it a breeze.
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I learned in my brother's 2006 Jeep Wrangler about 20 mins before he was going to teach me how to off-road lol, so I got a trial by fire on it.
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FlapYoJacks posted:If anything, people above 50 would have more issues driving sticks because of medical mobility issues. This is why I quit driving stick - hips and knees are fubar at 45. That and most newer stuff is hard to find a stick in. Especially used. randomidiot fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Apr 14, 2023 |
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Applebees Appetizer posted:I taught myself on a truck, after riding motorcycles for a few years it wasn't hard to figure out, same concept but in reverse of feet/hands I learned on a bike too, found it a lot easier since you modulate the throttle and clutch with your hands. After that, translating to a car was relatively easy.
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I learned to drive stick at 10 on my uncle’s aged 70’s Fiat in Brasil. And then re-taught myself when I got my license at 17. Just took my mom’s ‘80 Civic DX with no tach up to a hilly street in a neighboring town and forced myself to not stall. Then I taught my son when he was 9, up in the state forests. We waited til he was juuuuust tall enough to see over the wheel and still touch the pedals in my Protegé. Now he’s 17, and both his cars are stick. I also don’t own any automatics (my wife has one) and a manual transmission is still my first filter criteria when looking for another car.
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I learned how to drive a manual in driving school in the school's ugly-rear end beige diesel Peugeot. One stall, after that it was basically like I'd driven cars since forever.
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I bought a brand new Focus RS and had to drive it home.
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stealie72 posted:a 87 Nissan sentra Sedan or coupe?
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Bought a mkv GTI for myself as my first car and had my dad drive it home for me while I followed in my moms auto volvo wagon. We then had me drive it back to my place after dropping off my car, he proceeded to yell at me when I stalled it on the steep hill on the street I was living on. After that I told him I’d teach myself and just figured it out in a parking lot, but I did have the advantage of having had a motorcycle for a couple years at that point.
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Taught my wife, zoomer kid and his girlfriend to drive stick in my 03 civic. That was close to a decade ago and the car has like 213000 miles on the original clutch. The reverse brake pedal analogy is genious, I'll make sure to remember that when I teach my 5 year old in that car.
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