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Shiroc posted:Oracle games were the dream that Link had after the dream of the Wind Fish. That's why it had a punching kangaroo and a bear with tiny wings. but no Kirby enemies or Prince Richard cameos
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Apr 15, 2023 03:24
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Orange Crush Rush posted:but no Kirby enemies or Prince Richard cameos yeah because its Link's dream this time
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Apr 15, 2023 03:32
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For all the care about zelda lore it's still genuinely really funny that Kirby has a more easy to understand timeline with far more direct connections main game to main game
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Apr 15, 2023 03:43
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Vikar Jerome posted:Wonder why its called legend of zelda, hmm. It's common to translate game titles into local languages. It probably wouldn't have sold as well if they kept the original title, Zelda no Densetsu.
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Apr 15, 2023 04:04
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Vikar Jerome posted:Wonder why its called legend of zelda, hmm. it's worked out for them op
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Apr 15, 2023 04:36
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If it was the Legend of Link the games would star somebody else.
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Apr 15, 2023 04:37
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they couldn't call it the Legend of Link because you could change his name in most of the games. but that's just a theory: a game theory
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Apr 15, 2023 04:42
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you could name the protagonist "Nutsack" in Final Fantasy VII but that didn't stop them from calling him "Cloud" in later games
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Apr 15, 2023 04:44
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Tee dus.
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Apr 15, 2023 04:44
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Speaking of that guy, they refused to say Tidus's name in X or X-2 because you can rename him. It was very awkward.
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Apr 15, 2023 04:46
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Just Andi Now posted:Speaking of that guy, they refused to say Tidus's name in X or X-2 because you can rename him. It was very awkward. But consistent. You can rename all the summons in X.
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Apr 15, 2023 04:51
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I still support the fringe theory that all Links are the exact same person living one immortal life and endless adventure
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Apr 15, 2023 04:55
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In this game you have to recharge the sheikah slate's battery with your USB cable.
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Apr 15, 2023 05:00
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There is a Zelda timeline but the ones Nintendo has published are wrong. Hell, they've even changed their minds about it between the Hyrule Historia and the Zelda Encyclopedia (Oracle games got moved and declared to star a different Link entirely). Only the content of the games can be considered in the construction of a timeline.
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Apr 15, 2023 05:03
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Khanstant posted:I still support the fringe theory that all Links are the exact same person living one immortal life and endless adventure when I was a teenager I saw some Flash animation that referred to Link as "the infinite hero" and that was the coolest loving thing in the universe
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Apr 15, 2023 05:03
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Khanstant posted:I still support the fringe theory that all Links are the exact same person living one immortal life and endless adventure I want Ganondorf to come back only to have an existential crisis that he's going to be killed by Link again, and just wants to die for good.
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Apr 15, 2023 05:04
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Just Andi Now posted:Speaking of that guy, they refused to say Tidus's name in X or X-2 because you can rename him. It was very awkward. What was weirder was the English translation had to have the exact same length voice lines as the Japanese version else the game broke. Same length as in if the Japanese line took five seconds then so did the English.
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Apr 15, 2023 05:12
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They could obviously include silence in each voice line in ffx but they had to make a lot of compromises in scriptwriting and voice direction
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Apr 15, 2023 05:16
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DoctorWhat posted:They could obviously include silence in each voice line in ffx but they had to make a lot of compromises in scriptwriting and voice direction yeah it was fine for longer sentences, but the short ones suffered the most. Yuna's lightning-fast "yes" (and I think it's the same clip every time she says it) is one example it was a cool era of gaming, just a bunch of creators inventing modern gaming with the most janky-rear end and fragile tools available to them
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Apr 15, 2023 05:33
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Mustached Demon posted:What was weirder was the English translation had to have the exact same length voice lines as the Japanese version else the game broke. As observant Muslims learn classical Arabic to read the Qu'ran in its original language as revealed by Allah, so too must we study Japanese.
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Apr 15, 2023 05:45
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DoctorWhat posted:There is a Zelda timeline but the ones Nintendo has published are wrong. Hell, they've even changed their minds about it between the Hyrule Historia and the Zelda Encyclopedia (Oracle games got moved and declared to star a different Link entirely). History books and encyclopedias are famously updated as new theories, research, info, etc is learned. No reason fictional historians can't also make new discoveries to better contextualize what evidence of the past they have. The games are legends, the worlds they present exist for the hero of the fable, to tell that story around a campfire they don't need a dry account of their history. Although if they wanna make a 4X Hyrule game, I'm down. I will lead the United Gerudo in retaking Hyrule Field and Castle.
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Apr 15, 2023 05:49
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Antonymous posted:the zeltik guy calls the gachapon 'pachinko machines' The kanji on Zelda’s “tear” is the same as the one for Link’s Rewind power isn’t it?
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Apr 15, 2023 06:19
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I just looked and yeah, the top half of the same character. The tears probably make a yin/yang type shape with two halves.
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Apr 15, 2023 06:27
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RatHat posted:The kanji on Zelda’s “tear” is the same as the one for Link’s Rewind power isn’t it? 
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Apr 15, 2023 06:36
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 this is the seal script for the word meaning 'time' which is obviously where the font for these powers is derived from
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Apr 15, 2023 06:43
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Theorycrafting is very cool and fun imo
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Apr 15, 2023 06:53
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can't wait to rip ganon's tear out of his forehead for a new power
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Apr 15, 2023 06:57
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Is the sheikah slate gone? In gonna miss the camera
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Apr 15, 2023 07:17
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WarpDogs posted:yeah it was fine for longer sentences, but the short ones suffered the most. Yuna's lightning-fast "yes" (and I think it's the same clip every time she says it) is one example SNES designers were miracle workers in getting a functional product, especially towards the end. We still got some hilarious bugs like the fall through the floor glitch in lttp. You can actually trigger the beat the game flag with it if I remember right. Then the PS2 era was a lot of experimentation in seeing how all these new toys, like voice acting and modernish cutscenes, play well with hardware limitations. Nowadays, though, game size might as well be limitless. Tricky part now is just making a finished product before the ridiculous deadline a bunch of suits decided on years prior.
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Apr 15, 2023 07:20
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The Maroon Hawk posted:Theorycrafting is very cool and fun imo
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Apr 15, 2023 07:21
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Lube Enthusiast posted:Is the sheikah slate gone? In gonna miss the camera Link's holding one in the scene in the trailer where he's riding up an elevator. I'm sure the camera is still in but I bet the other runes, aside from amiibo, are not
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Apr 15, 2023 07:21
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It's a new design that's meant to represent a Switch rather than a Wii U tablet. As Evil Eagle says, it's likely to have the Camera rune, but probably none of the gameplay abilities from the first game, since we have the new suite to work with and they probably didn't want players doing Stasis/Magnesis tricks instead of gluing vehicles together with Ultrahand.
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Apr 15, 2023 07:30
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The Maroon Hawk posted:Theorycrafting is very cool and fun imo I don’t mind the lore and timeline stuff but at some point it gets too complicated and I just hope that Nintendo doesn’t limit itself in game development cause the new thing has to fit in somewhere between all the old things.
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Apr 15, 2023 08:44
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The Maroon Hawk posted:Theorycrafting is very cool and fun imo My theory is that there will be 7 sages like in the A Link to the Past backstory / Ocarina of Time. In both games they are the ones who sealed Ganondorf, and twilight princess also. Originally in Ocarina each sage was going to give link a magic medallion to use, and in the final game the medallions of the sages look like the medallions you use to cast magic in A Link to the Past. Now they are tears instead. In ocarina of time the 7 sages' elements were Light, Forest, Fire, Water, Shadow, Spirit and presumably Zelda's was Time. The races were Hylian, Kokiri, Goron, Zora, Sheikah, Gerudo and Zelda. Zelda is hylian so that is doubled up. We already saw in the new trailer that Zelda has a tear, and so does a zora, gerudo. Probably forest will become wind (forest and wind were always interchangable - ocarina and wind waker mixes them too) and the race will be Rito instead of korok/kokiri. The Rito character has a green gem, green is forest/wind like those other games. That mysterious creature with a dragon face in the trailer which has a white tear will be light. If you saw the leaked artbook it's a big hint that this is right. We know that zelda's tear says 'time' so that's a good match to her presumed element as well. Ganondorf has the red one and we haven't yet seen the goron hero even though the four champions of breath of the wild/the third trailer implies there will be one. I think you will be accompanied by each sage through their temple to 'awaken' them. Ocarina had Ruto, Zelda 'accompany' you in dungeons. We saw two examples of the tear holders fighting alongside Link in the trailer. Like Ocarina and A Link to the Past, we need to save Zelda at the end because we need all seven sages. Of course they won't reuse this to the letter, they will add some twist on top. In wind waker you only awaken two sages and that's good enough. Antonymous fucked around with this message at 08:56 on Apr 15, 2023 |
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Apr 15, 2023 08:47
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Khanstant posted:If two people want to discuss the Zelda timeline, a third person will show up to tell you how dumb they think that is. So 3 timelines
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Apr 15, 2023 08:48
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Dictator. posted:I don’t mind the lore and timeline stuff but at some point it gets too complicated and I just hope that Nintendo doesn’t limit itself in game development cause the new thing has to fit in somewhere between all the old things. Honestly I think it works the other way around. Nintendo comes up with the central gimmick for the game then picks a spot in the timeline so they can use that to inform the story and details, and they aren't really opposed to retconning either.
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Apr 15, 2023 08:50
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And as much as I love the timeline and think it's a free value add I can't imagine a scenario where Nintendo overruling Zelda concepts because of timeline concerns. I can see them being like, no, can't play as Zelda gently caress you for asking again, or no, Link cannot be a centaur or ever wear pearl snaps. Can't see them ever bringing up the timeline as a reason they can't do this or that dungeon, item, setting, or gimmick. It's a fun tertiary thing, natural consequence of building worlds and experiences people cherish and they can make whatever game they want and have it for in after the fact one way or the other.
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Apr 15, 2023 09:05
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Mustached Demon posted:What was weirder was the English translation had to have the exact same length voice lines as the Japanese version else the game broke. Having replayed FFX recently, it's really remarkable how good its English voice-acting is for the era, especially given the issues like you describe. Most of the characters are very accurate reproductions of their Japanese voices, and the ones that aren't (namely Auron) are still good in a different way. Yuna and Tidus in particular are pretty much perfectly cast. People post the laughing scene as an example of "bad old voice-acting," but that's because they completely misunderstand the scene. It's supposed to sound goofy and forced! The original Japanese version of the scene is very similar.
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Apr 15, 2023 10:26
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WarpDogs posted:they couldn't call it the Legend of Link because you could change his name in most of the games. but that's just a theory: a game theory “The Legend of Fagballs” doesn’t quite have the same panache, I suppose
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Apr 15, 2023 10:52
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as someone who spent time in the Gamefaqs forums arguing about the Zelda timeline in my youth the reveal of a third timeline was absolutely vindicating
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