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Did anyone ever try blinking at the Borg Queen to reprogram them?
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Is it… Is it too much to ask of Picard writers to not kill off the only interesting characters in every season? SourKraut posted:Yeah, I legitimately hoped that if anything came out of all of this, it's a show someday that would have more Shaw. So his death was really disappointing. Rios and Shaw were some of the only redeeming qualities of the last two seasons. I really need to stop saying “oh this character is good, I hope we see more of them after Picard” because RIP. This season hasn’t been unwatchable, but as ready as I am for it to end I did want to see Shaw survive this and maybe show up somewhere else. But I guess I’m not allowed to have fun things, so.. some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Apr 15, 2023 |
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Apr 15, 2023 22:49
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apatheticman posted:You could have first contact borg queen with jacks son and allison pill borg queen with picard as a semi locutus. In like a family sitcom?
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Apr 15, 2023 23:01
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I’m pretty sure the writers are keeping Raffi alive just to spite me at this point
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Apr 15, 2023 23:09
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Definitely looks like First Contact style nanoprobe vein stuff. You can even see little circuitry paths. Perhaps if they had lit the bridge well enough on the show we could have seen some of that detail
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Apr 15, 2023 23:12
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Trixie Hardcore posted:In like a family sitcom? Everyone hates locutus
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Apr 15, 2023 23:17
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Mica Burton seems cool as gently caress I hope she gets to do something cool later.
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Apr 15, 2023 23:31
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Apr 15, 2023 23:43
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They could simply put him in Lower Decks, which might actually be the best outcome for his character all things considered. e: If they ever catch up to Picard in the timeline they can literally just black mountain him and give him something to bond with Shax over. e2: okay now I really want them to catch up to Picard season 3. Clearly the Calis weren't included in the Frontier Day celebrations, so they are probably just out there doing their thing. Just do a whole episode about Boimler being pissy that they don't get to participate in Frontier Day. Then we can cut to the crew going  when the thing happens, and go from there.Professor Beetus fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Apr 16, 2023 |
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Apr 15, 2023 23:48
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Professor Beetus posted:They could simply put him in Lower Decks, which might actually be the best outcome for his character all things considered. Captain Mariner just making static sounds into the comm when she gets the order to attend Frontier Day. "Bzzzzt... can't make you out... pffft... losing the signal"
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Apr 16, 2023 00:19
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Is the Queen a borged Janeway or Sela? Why would they say what they said about mothers loving the villain or some poo poo
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Comfortador posted:Is the Queen a borged Janeway or Sela? Why would they say what they said about mothers loving the villain or some poo poo Wrong direction, it's the Outrageous Okona and the mothers like him because he's so handsome and charming. Gaz-L posted:Captain Mariner just making static sounds into the comm when she gets the order to attend Frontier Day. "Bzzzzt... can't make you out... pffft... losing the signal" Jesus Christ I can both hear and see this in my head Professor Beetus fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Apr 16, 2023 |
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Apr 16, 2023 00:54
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Now that regular Starfleet is destroyed, all that is left are the Section 31 starships. What a great setup for the show! Truly, Terry is the man with the plan.
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Apr 16, 2023 00:57
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Professor Beetus posted:They could simply put him in Lower Decks, which might actually be the best outcome for his character all things considered. Shaw wakes up on Black Mountain. "What fresh hell is this?" Shax standing next to him with holes in his chest that his borgified teen half-Caitian son made "First time?"
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Apr 16, 2023 01:03
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Comfortador posted:Is the Queen a borged Janeway or Sela? Why would they say what they said about mothers loving the villain or some poo poo First Contact came out nearly 30 years ago. It is the thing Terry thinks moms remember.
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Apr 16, 2023 01:15
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All Mothers love the Borg-Queen.
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Boxturret posted:All Mothers love the Borg-Queen. She is the ultimate girlboss
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Apr 16, 2023 01:20
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Do you think anybody watching this show likes or cares about Jack? I don't think even the people who like it care about this character
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Do you think anybody watching this show likes or cares about Jack? I don't think even the people who like it care about this character The actor is all right but he is the most Marty Stu to ever Stu Surprised he's not from M'Talas Prime Ugh... the Trailer for the finale dropped and they're like "oh no if Earth Falls the Federation is over, every planet will fall!" And it's like... why? The other founding members seem fine, the Federation is fuckhuge and while Earth would be a blow the Federation could rebuild a fleet in some other part of the Alpha Quadrant and take it back, or figure out how to reverse the Borgification or something. There are other members of the Federation besides Earth, and plenty of smart and capable people like the D crew. Just so dumb. TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Apr 16, 2023 |
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Apr 16, 2023 01:27
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Jack would have been 100 times better if he was just there and not the Very Special Boy Jack
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I can’t tell you a single thing about him other than he worked with his mom’s medical charity thing
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IMO It's actually harmful to the family themes when you wrap it up with weird superpowers or apocalyptic chosen one stuff. Relatedly, Wesley wasn't even a bad character when he was just a character and not a supergenius or a wizard. Incidentally it seems they just 100% dropped the thread about Jack having committed a lot of crimes, i guess thats one of those things about family members you don't have to deal with if they're the chosen one.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Do you think anybody watching this show likes or cares about Jack? I don't think even the people who like it care about this character I actually like the performance for the most part, but yeah, he’d be 100% better without all this special unique destiny bullshit.
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:IMO It's actually harmful to the family themes when you wrap it up with weird superpowers or apocalyptic chosen one stuff. Relatedly, Wesley wasn't even a bad character when he was just a character and not a supergenius or a wizard. Doing charity work means you can do a little gunrunning as a treat. Like a tax write-off.
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https://twitter.com/terrymatalas/status/1647399633713496064?s=46&t=lwcbHHF5kMtOssgwSCnYEA Strong “please watch” energy
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Big Mean Jerk posted:https://twitter.com/terrymatalas/status/1647399633713496064?s=46&t=lwcbHHF5kMtOssgwSCnYEA Goddamned she's beautiful
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:IMO It's actually harmful to the family themes when you wrap it up with weird superpowers or apocalyptic chosen one stuff. Relatedly, Wesley wasn't even a bad character when he was just a character and not a supergenius or a wizard. In my rewatch I realized that after Season 1 nonsense Wesley is a good character that I like, and his relationship with Picard is very wholesome. Like Wesley gets way better by Season 3, they aren't even the same character.
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:IMO It's actually harmful to the family themes when you wrap it up with weird superpowers or apocalyptic chosen one stuff. Relatedly, Wesley wasn't even a bad character when he was just a character and not a supergenius or a wizard. I assume that was just made up to arrest him? Like the Starfleet Changelings were just trying to create false charges. Lmao though if he ends up being Khan II
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The D has always been my favorite ship and I want to enjoy its return, but this whole thing just feels so goddamn hollow and manipulative that it sours the moment for me.
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TulliusCicero posted:In my rewatch I realized that after Season 1 nonsense Wesley is a good character that I like, and his relationship with Picard is very wholesome. I'm genuinely convinced the first season they were writing for a kid about half Wil's age. Like if Wes was like 10, it would've been obnoxious but it would've played differently. I'm thinking of stuff like in The Naked Now where he has the little gadget with voice clips so he play at being an officer.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:The D has always been my favorite ship and I want to enjoy its return, but this whole thing just feels so goddamn hollow and manipulative that it sours the moment for me. Big same. This nostalgia stuff just does nothing for me. If I want to see the Enterprise D I've got 7 seasons of TNG I can watch. Show me something new. "All the feels", gently caress offffffffff
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Jack just being a blend of Crusher and Picard's character traits would have been phenomenal. Someone with Picard's strong ethos (you know, assuming that's genetically determined) but wearing a blue uniform and focusing on science and discovery would be a supremely Star Trek concept to explore. But, yeah, I guess just give him glowy eye Borg mind control powers and turn him into a living MacGuffin, that's great. 
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Do you think anybody watching this show likes or cares about Jack? I don't think even the people who like it care about this character I liked him right up until "What's Wrong With Jack?" took over the entire show. Ed Spleers is a great actor and is working his rear end off to elevate the slop he's been handed and mostly succeeding on his charm and charisma alone, but around Episode 7 I just got loving sick of Jack as a character when I'd previously rather liked him up till then. As others have mentioned, if the plot was just "Picard has to rescue Beverly from baddies who want to bring down the Federation and he meets his long lost son in the process and now father and son have to reconcile their mutual shady pasts and work together" that would be perfectly fine. Making Jack the Space Anti-Christ is just exhausting 
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Jack just being a blend of Crusher and Picard's character traits would have been phenomenal. Someone with Picard's strong ethos (you know, assuming that's genetically determined) but wearing a blue uniform and focusing on science and discovery would be a supremely Star Trek concept to explore. This feels kinda like where Tendi's arc on Lower Decks is pointing at, especially pushing the idea that if she's going to become a senior science officer, she has to have the sort of backbone to stand up in a room full of command-ranked assholes and say "this is why you're wrong" before laying out a case. Spock was part of the main trio for a reason, and it's because he could hold his own. This is also why Lower Decks rules.
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TulliusCicero posted:gently caress this regressive boomer nostalgia vision of Trek: no thanks The boomer nostalgia vision of Star Trek is one where humans are just so loving special. The first season of TNG alone gives us a god who is scared that humans will eventually surpass his people because of how special they are, another god who judges humans as better than another species, a robot whose ideal is being as much like humans as he possibly can, and so on. Nobody wants that poo poo in such large, self congratulatory doses. The one thing Enterprise did right was portray Vulcans as being just slightly infantilizing toward humans because it makes the humans eager to prove them wrong and also says that hey, guess what, there is no amount of enlightenment and adherence to reason that can completely eradicate prejudice and dealing with it requires conscious effort. Besides, Starfleet and the Federation are not the same thing. Starfleet is ultimately a fictional military as was dreamed up by a WW2 military man, and that dream was overly rosy of the whole thing. Gene Roddenberry is not the only WW2 vet that had rosy ideals of the military; it's why so many of them felt okay sending their Boomer kids to Vietnam. "It's good for ya and builds character!" Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Apr 16, 2023 |
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Craptacular! posted:The boomer nostalgia vision of Star Trek is one where humans are just so loving special. The first season of TNG alone gives us a god who is scared that humans will eventually surpass his people because of how special they are, another god who judges humans as better than another species idk who these “gods” are because I don’t remember any actual gods in Star Trek but if the first one is Q that dude was just joking.
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Trixie Hardcore posted:idk who these “gods” are because I don’t remember any actual gods in Star Trek but if the first one is Q that dude was just joking. Also Q's arc in TNG is going from humanity's would-be executioner to human's lovable scumbag defense attorney.
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secretly best girl posted:This feels kinda like where Tendi's arc on Lower Decks is pointing at, especially pushing the idea that if she's going to become a senior science officer, she has to have the sort of backbone to stand up in a room full of command-ranked assholes and say "this is why you're wrong" before laying out a case. Spock was part of the main trio for a reason, and it's because he could hold his own. Yeah, the greatest trick Lower Decks ever pulled was presenting a superficially flippant and cartoony image, but at its core it really nails the classic Trek philosophy.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:The D has always been my favorite ship and I want to enjoy its return, but this whole thing just feels so goddamn hollow and manipulative that it sours the moment for me. It's an especially sour feeling because if it had been handled competently bringing the D back could have been a very special moment.
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The plot is all nonsense but it was cool to see the crew on the set again and I liked it because I'm easily manipulated and our world's nose-dive into fascist climate-ending dystopia has me craving simpler times when I believed in humanity's potential as a child. RIP Shaw best part of the show. I was really annoyed by this though: "There are protocols - he's borg, sending signals, and potentially controlling other people." "OK should we... you know, lock up Seven of Nine?" "Nah she's cool." "OK should we then... ask her for her advice on this current situation we're in?" "Nah I think we got this without her." edit: lower decks supremacy it's the only proper Trek we've had since the Orville Hahaha their agents made sure Raffi and Seven were in the D shot https://twitter.com/StarTrekOnPPlus/status/1647283672889057280 Tom Tucker fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Apr 16, 2023 |
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