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ADINSX
Sep 9, 2003

Wanna run with my crew huh? Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?

I'm still recovering from hurting my right bicep like 2 months ago from a mixed grip deadlift: This is why people tell you not to use mixed grip! I guess its possible to flex your bicep during the lift picking up way more weight than its designed to help with and the muscle can tear off the tendon, or something to that effect.

I don't know if that happened to me (if it did, it would require surgery to fix), but I do think that area is inflamed. For a couple of weeks after the incident I felt a dull pain when using my right arm whenever the bicep was involved, especially if it was at its full range of motion opposite of laying by my side (wasn't sure how to word this, maybe you could tell)

It's getting better, it doesn't hurt when unloaded now, but I still feel it at the gym or when I have to pick up the baby in her car seat. I made an appointment to get it looked at but this being America means that appointment is in May and will probably just refer me to a specialist I get to wait another couple of months to see. By then it will hopefully be healed.

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Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

Mr. Crow posted:

For home stuff anything by Pavel is probably good,

https://www.goodreads.com/search?q=Tsatsouline&qid=PGblmWdH17

thanks i’ll check him out. they have good reviews on good reads which is kinda hard to get sometimes.

it’s also funny to me that half of them are “russian kettlebell techniques”. like they’re the techniques the imperial pig dogs don’t want you to know or something.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

ran 19.5km last night. ready for my half marathon

Mr. Crow
May 22, 2008

Snap City mayor for life

Juul-Whip posted:

ran 19.5km last night. ready for my half marathon

nice!!

Eeyo posted:

thanks i’ll check him out. they have good reviews on good reads which is kinda hard to get sometimes.

it’s also funny to me that half of them are “russian kettlebell techniques”. like they’re the techniques the imperial pig dogs don’t want you to know or something.

I don't really know all the history of the dude or anything but he is russian and a well known fitness personality. i think his schtick in late 90s was leaning heavily into the 80s/post-80s view of the macho russian soldier or whatever. I think he got famous for either inventing the kettle bell or just otherwise promoting it hard, so all his stuff lends itself really well to the home/travel gym lifestyle. I was doing simple n sinister during covid then had a kid and it all went to poo poo.

Mr. Crow fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Apr 17, 2023

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



oh man i remember enter the kettlebell. it was great. i should get back on that

HamAdams
Jun 29, 2018

yospos

ADINSX posted:

I'm still recovering from hurting my right bicep like 2 months ago from a mixed grip deadlift: This is why people tell you not to use mixed grip! I guess its possible to flex your bicep during the lift picking up way more weight than its designed to help with and the muscle can tear off the tendon, or something to that effect.

I don't know if that happened to me (if it did, it would require surgery to fix), but I do think that area is inflamed. For a couple of weeks after the incident I felt a dull pain when using my right arm whenever the bicep was involved, especially if it was at its full range of motion opposite of laying by my side (wasn't sure how to word this, maybe you could tell)

It's getting better, it doesn't hurt when unloaded now, but I still feel it at the gym or when I have to pick up the baby in her car seat. I made an appointment to get it looked at but this being America means that appointment is in May and will probably just refer me to a specialist I get to wait another couple of months to see. By then it will hopefully be healed.

yeesh i had never heard of that, i guess i’ll switch to overhand grip lol

ADINSX
Sep 9, 2003

Wanna run with my crew huh? Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?

HamAdams posted:

yeesh i had never heard of that, i guess i’ll switch to overhand grip lol

I knew I wasn’t supposed to but never knew exactly why. It’s been a good excuse to go down in weight and focus on grip strength

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


noo I like mixed grip :(

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

HamAdams posted:

yeesh i had never heard of that, i guess i’ll switch to overhand grip lol

do either a hook grip or better yet get some straps for deadlifting

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

I need straps for anything greater than 1.5 plates

HamAdams
Jun 29, 2018

yospos
did squats today and somehow accidentally loaded 25lbs less on one side when i went to start my first working set. thankfully i was using clips and just racked it without dumping weights all over but i sure felt dumb lmao

Share Bear
Apr 27, 2004

i flip the switched grip, one set on both sides (one set left hand over right hadn under, one set left hand under right hand over), i think this is fine

it doesnt solve actual real grip issues

this video was p good about how to address grip without using straps necessarily: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFuzwb8WkKc

the intro is all you need if you wanna just work on grip w/o straps

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

lol I got on the hack squat machine today, put a twenty on each side and started my first set, absolutely breezed through it - huh maybe sleeping and eating better are paying off - second set, easy as can be. Get off to get a sip of water, notice someone has left the huge thick resistance rubber band tied round the back of the machine and looped over the shoulder rests. Ah, I'll just unwrap that then. Set three and no I have not suddenly made a huge improvement.

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



i got a haircut. it's made all my lifts better

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

KoRMaK posted:

i got a haircut. it's made all my lifts better

the ol reverse samson

Mr. Crow
May 22, 2008

Snap City mayor for life
pro-tip for grip strength esp. if youre already doing deadlifts, on your last rep + set just hold the weight as long as you can.

also the ol rear end in a top hat weight on a string exercise

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


Mr. Crow posted:

also the ol rear end in a top hat weight on a string exercise

:frogon:

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


instead of using a weighted buttplug, I do farmer carries with the 45lb plates

Mr. Crow
May 22, 2008

Snap City mayor for life
dont kinkshame me

Mr. Crow
May 22, 2008

Snap City mayor for life

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


Does the flared base go...inside?

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Mr. Crow posted:

I don't really know all the history of the dude or anything but he is russian and a well known fitness personality. i think his schtick in late 90s was leaning heavily into the 80s/post-80s view of the macho russian soldier or whatever. I think he got famous for either inventing the kettle bell or just otherwise promoting it hard, so all his stuff lends itself really well to the home/travel gym lifestyle. I was doing simple n sinister during covid then had a kid and it all went to poo poo.

yeah hes playing the macho spetznaz type character but there definitely was a difference in how the russians trained vs how we did, i think crossfit has helped bridge that gap

Mr. Crow
May 22, 2008

Snap City mayor for life

PokeJoe posted:

Does the flared base go...inside?

It can if u want it to :wink:

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


i need to consult my old friend kirk johnson

LanceHunter
Nov 12, 2016

Beautiful People Club


Mr. Crow posted:

pro-tip for grip strength esp. if youre already doing deadlifts, on your last rep + set just hold the weight as long as you can.

My trainer is big on strict tempo for reps, and I’m currently doing on a 3-second descent for my deadlifts (and squats). It’s a whole different category of agony for your grip.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

along the grip strength lines, kettlebells are great for that, too.

Geebs
Jun 1, 2022

The ø is silent.
Update on my squat situation from a bit ago, constant hamstring stretching has been a great success but I ended up pulling a hip abductor anyways (ugh). So now I've been doing a bunch of exercises focused on that and I'm finally feeling like I'm getting to the point where I might be flexible enough to squat properly without hurting my drat knees.

As a novice to the big lifts but not to weight training, flexibility still continues to be my downfall.

Constantly having issues like this even at low weight has gotten demoralizing, feels like if I'm going to injure myself it would at least be cool if it was from a big number

Geebs fucked around with this message at 07:35 on Apr 18, 2023

Mr. Crow
May 22, 2008

Snap City mayor for life

Geebs posted:

Update on my squat situation from a bit ago, constant hamstring stretching has been a great success but I ended up pulling a hip abductor anyways (ugh). So now I've been doing a bunch of exercises focused on that and I'm finally feeling like I'm getting to the point where I might be flexible enough to squat properly without hurting my drat knees.

As a novice to the big lifts but not to weight training, flexibility still continues to be my downfall.

Constantly having issues like this even at low weight has gotten demoralizing, feels like if I'm going to injure myself it would at least be cool if it was from a big number


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSSDLDhbacc


This routine did work for me, I still do it

ADINSX
Sep 9, 2003

Wanna run with my crew huh? Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?

Mr. Crow posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSSDLDhbacc


This routine did work for me, I still do it

Gonna check this out, I also have flexibility problems, thanks!

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

i'm getting pretty close to being able to straight leg touch my toes for the first time ever, cmon waist you fucker let me bend over more!!

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

thanks for the book recs earlier. looked at the good reads reviews and the simple and sinister looks interesting. some of the reviews made it sound like the guy is a bit of an rear end in a top hat (as in if he posted in yospos we’d be like “yikes”).

it does sound like what i’m after in a routine though. just something simple i can do every day sounds good, i feel like working out 3hrs before bedtime has been helping me sleep.

i’ll have to see if it’s at the library and just read it for the info.

unrelated, but is there an alternative to dumbbell kickbacks (as in targets the same muscles)? i feel like those are pretty unstable for me and i think i overextended something last week when doing them. that’s the only thing i dislike in my current routine.

Mr. Crow
May 22, 2008

Snap City mayor for life
Skull crushers?

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



i have a plantars wart on the bottom of the 'knuckle' of my big toe, between the toe pad and the ball of my foot. i have had it since i was seven years old. multiple dermatologists have tried, and all have concluded: this is you, we could cut it out with knives but it'd come back and also that would hurt a lot.

anyway, the only time it causes me pain is when i'm doing pushups. so i never do pushups, i use dumbbells instead. i know i could do incline/knee/etc versions, but tbh i just want a way to do normal pushups that doesn't hurt my dang toe. any suggestions?

ADINSX
Sep 9, 2003

Wanna run with my crew huh? Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?

Achmed Jones posted:

i have a plantars wart on the bottom of the 'knuckle' of my big toe, between the toe pad and the ball of my foot. i have had it since i was seven years old. multiple dermatologists have tried, and all have concluded: this is you, we could cut it out with knives but it'd come back and also that would hurt a lot.

anyway, the only time it causes me pain is when i'm doing pushups. so i never do pushups, i use dumbbells instead. i know i could do incline/knee/etc versions, but tbh i just want a way to do normal pushups that doesn't hurt my dang toe. any suggestions?

Sometimes I’ll do a quick set of push-ups wearing really inflexible shoes (motorcycle boots). Would something like that help? Basically I’m pivoting on the toe box of the shoe, not my actual toes

LanceHunter
Nov 12, 2016

Beautiful People Club


Achmed Jones posted:

i have a plantars wart on the bottom of the 'knuckle' of my big toe, between the toe pad and the ball of my foot. i have had it since i was seven years old. multiple dermatologists have tried, and all have concluded: this is you, we could cut it out with knives but it'd come back and also that would hurt a lot.

anyway, the only time it causes me pain is when i'm doing pushups. so i never do pushups, i use dumbbells instead. i know i could do incline/knee/etc versions, but tbh i just want a way to do normal pushups that doesn't hurt my dang toe. any suggestions?

Cross your legs at the ankle so that the foot with the wart is off of the ground. It'll require a bit more balance but should still work.

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



oh of course, now that you say it im pretty sure that's what i did back in the day. it's been the same size for 20 years at this point so i was kinda confused how i used to do this and chalked it up to "i dont have lovely school-classroom-style carpet any more" but i bet i just crossed my legs. now i feel really dumb but :shrug:

re: shoes yeah, that works - even regular shoes fix it, but i'm more interested in doing a set between meetings or whatever. but derp i'll just cross my ankles and if it makes 'em harder oh well ill get stronger or smth

thanks yall

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

Mr. Crow posted:

Skull crushers?

ok i crushed some skulls and those feel more stable to me. got to get my forearm to stay more still though i think. i’ve been doing the kickbacks this whole time but it felt harder than i anticipated to do them, did two less reps than normal.

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

i accidentally added 20 extra pounds to the bar when deadlifting today and was thinking "what the gently caress? why is this so hard today?" when lifting it lol

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
that’s how champions are born


I did that once when squatting, hit 115kg or something

I don’t think I could have lifted that much if I knew, well maybe idk, but going into the lift with ignorance and pushing as if it were lighter maybe made an difference. or maybe, not. who can really know

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akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

echinopsis posted:

that’s how champions are born


I did that once when squatting, hit 115kg or something

I don’t think I could have lifted that much if I knew, well maybe idk, but going into the lift with ignorance and pushing as if it were lighter maybe made an difference. or maybe, not. who can really know

I only did one rep then lowered the weight once I figured out what I did haha.

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