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If you’re only using it for batches, yea, bourbon will be ok. A handle of Evan Williams is what you want. Whiskey is such a broad category though - scotch or Irish won’t serve you as well. Nobody is going to drink your scotch punch
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I have a friend who insists that scotch is not whiskey. And that I am stupid and uncultured for thinking there is any similarity or believing the label
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Scotch isn't whiskey, it's whisky.
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Data Graham posted:I have a friend who insists that scotch is not whiskey. And that I am stupid and uncultured for thinking there is any similarity or believing the label lol, because labeling is so unrestricted in the US, people can put whatever they want /s There are some people you won't get through to, no matter how much real information you put in front of them. Better to shake it off with a Jennifer Lawrence thumbs up and move on. Edit: and yeah, for bar stock, if you're going to have just one whiskey, a Bourbon is the way to go. I saw handles of Evan Williams bonded at Costco for like $40 I think not that long ago. If you're looking for something lighter, but a little more expensive, they also carry handles of Larceny.
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Rye is kind of like the vanilla ice cream of whiskey. It absolutely does have its own distinct flavor, but it’s a flavor that goes well with basically everything, and that makes it a good default base spirit. So IMO if you only want to get one whiskey, I’d go with rye over bourbon because you can use it in almost any drink that calls for whiskey (certain scotch drinks notwithstanding).
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I know a little of the differences between bourbon and rye. IIRC, that's just corn mash vs. rye. For scotch/irish i know they are different, but not how. What about Japanese?
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Japanese whiskeys run the gamut, because they crib from traditions from all over the world. If I had to give them a general profile, the “average” Japanese whiskey tends towards a lighter flavor with mild floral notes that’s closer to a non-peat forward Scotch, because the most popular whiskey drink in Japan is a highball. That being said, you can find plenty of bourbon style whiskeys, rye, all sorts of blends, etc.
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Any opinions on the Kirkland Canadian whiskey as a party mixer liquor? It’s half the price of crown royal
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Anonymous Robot posted:Japanese whiskeys run the gamut, because they crib from traditions from all over the world. If I had to give them a general profile, the “average” Japanese whiskey tends towards a lighter flavor with mild floral notes that’s closer to a non-peat forward Scotch, because the most popular whiskey drink in Japan is a highball. That being said, you can find plenty of bourbon style whiskeys, rye, all sorts of blends, etc.
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That’s definitely part of it, lengthening the drink to make it more approachable to a people that are more sensitive to alcohol and have less of a liquor culture. But I think it depends a lot on what you’re drinking. The essential Japanese highball whiskey is Suntory Toki, and it is transformed in a highball. That’s the only way I like it, even. I recently had a bottle of St George’s Baller whiskey, and not surprisingly, it also makes a fantastic highball. You have to be really careful to get your ratio of liquor to soda just right, also.
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I drank about a dozen highballs (served in old fashioned rocks glasses) at the last open bar wedding I went to. Monkey Shoulder and club soda will get the job done and yes it’s very easy.
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I really take issue with the "a japanese highball uses suntory tiki" thing. It's not the definitive highball whiskey. It never was. Toki was only released in 2016 as a part of a boarder strategy among the japanese whiskey producers that involved dropping many of their lower age statement whiskies in order to be able to produce non-age statement expressions like Toki and Harmony so that they could keep up with the insane spike in demand for japanese whiskey without their whiskeys devolving into the grey market nightmare that Bourbon has become. The massive advertising push for the Toki highball, including the (extremely cool & good) toki highball machine, was a part of that strategy A japanese highball uses japanese whiskey, and they're definitely better with better whiskies. Toki is fine but it's incredibly generic and broadly appealing by design so you aren't crazy for finding a Toki highball underwhelming.
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Fart Car '97 posted:I really take issue with the "a japanese highball uses suntory tiki" thing. It's not the definitive highball whiskey. It never was. Toki was only released in 2016 as a part of a boarder strategy among the japanese whiskey producers that involved dropping many of their lower age statement whiskies in order to be able to produce non-age statement expressions like Toki and Harmony so that they could keep up with the insane spike in demand for japanese whiskey without their whiskeys devolving into the grey market nightmare that Bourbon has become. The massive advertising push for the Toki highball, including the (extremely cool & good) toki highball machine, was a part of that strategy Yeah, the highball machine is basically why I said that. My understanding is that they’re extremely common at non-cocktail-focused bars in Japan.
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Not as common as the “kakuhai” or Kakubin highball, based on the standard Japanese whiskey found in every convenience store since its intro in like the 40s, also made by Suntory. I think Toki is even export only. Oh, you meant highball machines. Yes, those are wildly common but usually have Kakubin, unless something’s changed in the last couple years. Also it’s funny that “more sensitive to alcohol and less of a liquor culture” might be literally true (I suppose) but made me of a double take to make sure we’re still talking about Japan. Shochu and chuhai beg to differ, as do the ten billion salarymen passed out drunk every night near every train station in Tokyo. Highballs are very good, when well made. They’re good in the same way a really well-made G&T is very good. Not all good things are fancy things.
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Scythe posted:Not all good things are fancy things. I hear that. I'll take a nice gimlet any day of the week and there are fewer greater pleasures in my life. What's everyone's favorite simple mixed drinks?
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I mean I order a Manhattan as my default at a new place.
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silvergoose posted:I mean I order a Manhattan as my default at a new place. This. If they can't make that right then I'll make different choices.
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Strange Matter posted:What's everyone's favorite simple mixed drinks?
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Campari soda is my "I'm not thinking about it" reflexive drink order, moreso in summer. Anywhere that doesn't even have campari (wedding open bar, etc) I'm just getting whiskey + ginger ale
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Manhattans are my favorite go to. Lately, I've been on a simple margarita with a good tequila kick. Really hitting the spot now that the weather's warmed up
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So I recently got myself a bottle of Creme de Violette to try my hand at an Aviation. I like the liqueur, but I don't like Aviations enough to finish off the bottle any time soon. Any suggestions for drinks to try, preferably not sours? I'm pretty sure a similar question was asked before on this thread, but it was a while back.
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Strange Matter posted:I hear that. I'll take a nice gimlet any day of the week and there are fewer greater pleasures in my life. I'm a massive dark & stormy fan, also French Connections (2oz cognac/1oz amaretto) Oh also it's almost scary how much an amaretto sour tastes exactly like pink Starburst, for a nice dessert cocktail
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Qylvaran posted:So I recently got myself a bottle of Creme de Violette to try my hand at an Aviation. I like the liqueur, but I don't like Aviations enough to finish off the bottle any time soon. Any suggestions for drinks to try, preferably not sours? I'm pretty sure a similar question was asked before on this thread, but it was a while back. Try Arsenic & Old Lace, it's got similar ingredients but you may like it more. https://www.diffordsguide.com/cocktails/recipe/5167/arsenic-and-old-lace 2oz gin 1oz bianco vermouth 1tsp absinthe 1tsp creme de violette ⅓oz chilled water, or just shake it a lot Lemon twist
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Qylvaran posted:So I recently got myself a bottle of Creme de Violette to try my hand at an Aviation. I like the liqueur, but I don't like Aviations enough to finish off the bottle any time soon. Any suggestions for drinks to try, preferably not sours? I'm pretty sure a similar question was asked before on this thread, but it was a while back. This is a bit out there but it is one of my favorite offbeat cocktails. It isn’t a gestalt so much as a cocktail with a bunch of different flavors you can pick out individually without overwhelming each other Faded Gentleman 2 oz Gin 1⁄2 oz Crème de Violette 1⁄4 oz Islay Scotch 1 bsp Gran Classico 2 ds Lavender bitters 1 twst Lemon peel (as garnish) I like Gran Classico but Campari works fine too, it’s it a sine qua non. The original recipe calls for The Botanist but I think it’s a bit of a waste to use such a subtle but nice gin. I just use Bombay East or similar
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Strange Matter posted:What's everyone's favorite simple mixed drinks? I drank a lot of Mezcal and Tonic over the summer just gone, and I think that's going to be my go-to basically forever now.
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Both of those look delicious, thanks! I'm a little gun-shy opening a new bottle of vermouth--I don't actually drink all that often, and my spouse doesn't drink at all. Sweet vermouth gets a pass because I love Manhattans, Negronis, and Boulevardiers. The Faded Gentleman, on the other hand, has a few ingredients I don't have but wouldn't mind picking up. Gran Classico at least sounds like exactly what I wish Campari was, and that bottle is almost empty. In simple drinks, I've almost entirely switched from Old-Fashoneds to Manhattans as my go-to. Dark 'n Stormy when I feel like something fizzy.
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Qylvaran posted:So I recently got myself a bottle of Creme de Violette to try my hand at an Aviation. I like the liqueur, but I don't like Aviations enough to finish off the bottle any time soon. Any suggestions for drinks to try, preferably not sours? I'm pretty sure a similar question was asked before on this thread, but it was a while back. Ghost flower. 2 oz light rum 1 oz lime juice 3/4 pineapple juice 1/2 creme de violette 1/2 orgeat 1/2 st. germain Shake w/ ice and pour.
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Waltzing Along posted:Ghost flower. Yes. This is good.
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Strange Matter posted:I hear that. I'll take a nice gimlet any day of the week and there are fewer greater pleasures in my life. Dry gin martini with a twist is about as simple as it goes, and as a Las Vegan I'm constitutionally required to have one in my hand at all times Unless I have a highball or something.
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Kingston negroni. Easy drinker, complex, build in glass in like 30 seconds. Hard to beat.
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Waltzing Along posted:Ghost flower. Seconding that this is very good!
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my kinda ape posted:Seconding that this is very good! I wanted to like it but it just tasted tart and nondescript. Is beefeater a bad gin to use for it?
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Pander posted:I wanted to like it but it just tasted tart and nondescript. Is beefeater a bad gin to use for it? I just re-read my question and the ghost flower recipe and may have realized my issue.
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Pander posted:Kingston negroni. Easy drinker, complex, build in glass in like 30 seconds. Hard to beat. 
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Pander posted:I just re-read my question and the ghost flower recipe and may have realized my issue. It's post sequences like this that make me so happy sometimes
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Going to drop another rec for the Cocktail College podcast here. It’s consistently educational and has a lot of luminaries of the cocktail industry among its guests on the regular. I prefer it to any of the youtube guys doing a similar thing, and listening to it has changed how I make several drinks.
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Anonymous Robot posted:Going to drop another rec for the Cocktail College podcast here. It’s consistently educational and has a lot of luminaries of the cocktail industry among its guests on the regular. I prefer it to any of the youtube guys doing a similar thing, and listening to it has changed how I make several drinks.
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Can someone recommend a mesh strainer? The one I have tends to clog up while pouring which is kind of annoying. Or is this a normal issue?
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I think it’s pretty normal I keep a spoon around to press the liquid out of the mush
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Maybe give it a rinse between drinks while holding it upside down, if you're not already doing something like that. If it's catching enough solids from one drink that it's stopping the flow of the liquid, I'm curious what you're making
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