Bertha the Toaster posted:

If for some reason more evidence of Wagner being utter monsters was needed; https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1647956035418611713

RoyKeen posted:

Whoa, MODS!
Don't dehumanize someone just because they warcrime and shoot 5 year olds in the heads.

JohnCompany posted:

He's not an orc though, don't let him get off that easy. He's a human, who chose to violate one of the few very sacred things that all humans (and indeed most multicellular creatures) hold true: don't gently caress with the little ones. And it's worse for it.

Pekinduck posted:

Thanks for the explanation. I noticed that and figured losing two ranks means you hosed. Up. but I didn't know the extent of it.

KazigluBey posted:

gently caress off with this kind of post.

Flyinglemur posted:

Yeah you either hosed up at the worst possible time or you REALLY hosed up. I was an E6 stationed at Sub School and was in the Legal Office doing some paperwork (I was the Command Drug and Alcohol Program Advisor) the morning that an E8 staff member was having his Court Martial. The junior sailor that answered the phone told the LT I was talking to that it was over, he got busted down to E6 and he needed an escort to the restricted barracks. I volunteered to do it and the LT said "sorry, you have to outrank him," and I replied that as of right now, I did (time in rank). I thought it was a good argument but I didn't get to.

Cthulu Carl posted:

I think those Wagner PMC boys are real jackasses and perhaps even fuckheads.

confused posted:

I don't think I saw this in the thread today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPX1CieUkFY

Adam Something & Lazerpig did a good summary of the current state of the war and gave their thoughts on the possible upcoming actions.

zone posted:

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1647892270035750913
I'll let this video speak for itself.

Scam Likely posted:

This may or may not be to the threads taste, but I find JJ's takes on things very valuable, especially in regard to Western pop culture and soft power. If his Canadian wacky hair isn't to your taste then that's fair, but maybe someone will find this as interesting as I did. He's a great bridge between older and younger crowds as regards Geo-politics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArasEbdRi3o

Strategic Tea posted:

Send him to a Ukrainian court with a Ukrainian jury.

quote:

I will probably get downvoted to hell for this, but I will say that Russia has no chance of conquering Ukraine without nukes. Here are the reasons.

Ukraine
1. Has the biggest land army in Europe after Russia, 250 000 active personnel, 1 000 000 reserve, 2500 tanks

2. Ukraine military has been in the state of constant proxy war against Russia for the last 5 years. They have enormous modern warfare experience. By modern I mean not chasing some AK-47 Bedouins across the desert with predator drones, but a real war of two nearly-equal modern countries: tank armadas, artillery duels, trenches, rocket artillery from both sides. Everything except planes, but we'll talk about that later. They know the enemy and what to expect, as the Russian proxy states are under command of the Russian generals, use Russian command structure, weapons and tactics.

3. Ukrainians have the home soil advantage. Never underestimate the people protecting their country.

4. Most vulnerable parts of Russia-Ukraine border are covered by fortifications. This will not stop the enemy, but will likely deprive them from the element of surprise.

5. In a full-scale invasion there is little doubt that the US and Europe will start a massive land-lease campaign. I expect that Ukrainian neighbors: Poland, Romania, Hungary and the rest, will be exceptionally generous by donating their outdated soviet equipment, as no one wants to be the next target if Ukraine falls.

6. Some people say that Russian airforce will tip the balance in the favor of Russia. Well, not really. During the 3-days war with Georgia Russia officially lost 4 planes, including a strategic bomber. Georgia had only 8 anti-air "BUK" missile systems. Ukraine has about 1000 such systems, plus big number of other missile and gun AA systems that are outdated, but still can shoot down stuff, plus shoulder-launched AA systems.

Russia
1. Has one of the biggest armies in the world, 1000000/2500000, 10000 tanks, outnumbering the Ukrainian military both in active personnel and in reserve. However, there are several factors than make the Russian military much less intimidating in reality than on paper

a) Many Russian divisions exist mostly on paper, 10%-50% of the stated personnel. In many cases, the military equipment also exists on paper. Tanks sold for scrap, half of gasoline sold or used to fuel the general's car, the other half is donkey piss. Stuff like that. Remember? Russia is a very corrupt country. To make things worse, Russia uses conscription system where conscripts get little to no training. Only a handful of Russian divisions are actually combat ready and capable. Those were used in Crimea. Why do you think Russia tried to disguise the Siberian Asians as the local Crimean militia? Because there was no one else available. The forces used during the annexation of Crimea are nearly all battle-capable, well-trained, dependable troops Russia has. About 50 000.

b) Russian army is stretched thin, as they have to protect the biggest land border in the world. Russia can't concentrate everything they have against Ukraine without dangerously exposing it's underbelly.

c) Russian army is busy performing the "internal troops" duty. Another reason why Russia can't concentrate everything they have against Ukraine. The risk of civil unrests and regions rebelling becomes too high. Think of the 1917 and 1991, that's what happens when the Russian army isn't there to keep the people in check with an iron first.

d) Massive army requires great infrastructure. The state of Russian infrastructure is well-known, and not for being good. Russia will face massive supply problems, increasing with each kilometer of advance into Ukrainian territory, as they will have to use infrastructure of East Ukraine, which is not only your typical Russian infrastructure, but also destroyed by the war. Plus, partisan movement.

e) Any massive invasion will require massive concentration of forces near the border and mobilization, so the whole world will know that Russia is preparing to do weeks, maybe even months before the invasion. More than enough time to prepare, maybe even ship a hundred or two of "Javelins" to Ukraine. On a side note, that's why I don't think Russia is preparing a full-scale war. Forces on the border aren't enough for the task, no mobilization. Escalation - probably. Open invasion - unlikely.
1. Overall weak morale of the Russian soldiers. Almost no one is eager to die for Putin and his corrupted friends. If someone invaded Russia they'd fight, but being an open aggressor, invading another country is a whole different story. Also, the army is plagued with hazing and racial tensions
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HonorableTB posted:

Now this is interesting. I came across a Reddit (I know, I know..) post from, get this, 2018 that described perfectly why any Russian invasion of Ukraine would fail. It's a very accurate and prescient analysis.

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/a0lp2g/president_of_ukraine_claims_large_scale_russian/eajhr2z/

DiomedesGodshill posted:

Maybe they should just go home.

Cthulu Carl posted:

I think those Wagner PMC boys are real jackasses and perhaps even fuckheads.

mobby_6kl posted:

Please don't use dehumanizing slurs to refer to murderers and rapists here

Tarquinn posted:

Stop that ironic poo poo, please.

HonorableTB posted:

Now this is interesting. I came across a Reddit (I know, I know..) post from, get this, 2018 that described perfectly why any Russian invasion of Ukraine would fail. It's a very accurate and prescient analysis.

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/a0lp2g/president_of_ukraine_claims_large_scale_russian/eajhr2z/

mobby_6kl posted:

Dwesa posted:

Putin allegedly visited HQ in Luhansk, he brought an icon

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1648212450712465409

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1648187788251090945

Tarquinn posted:

Stop that ironic poo poo, please.

Scarodactyl posted:

Nobody wants to have this conversation with you.

Victis posted:

Wouldn’t want to ruffle any feathers; please maintain decorum

Nah shut the gently caress up

boofhead posted:

Russia declares major victory: Spetsnaz saboteurs strike a Ukrainian training camp in Poland, destroying 300 Leopard IIs and liberating the Holy Dessicated Scrotum of Christ the Genocider