|
I'm an expat and I'm raising my son overseas. I've been going through early Simpsons with him as a primer to American culture. This summer is going to be the big test: will his cousins think he's a weirdo?
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 03:37
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 29, 2024 13:24 |
|
|
Sourdough Sam posted:So I've never really watched the Simpsons until it was all on D+. I had the privilege of the classic episodes being mostly new to me. Since the pandemic started I've become quite familiar to Seasons 3-10 and knew to not go past there. Having never seen what this show became I decided to see how long I would last on an episode from the current season. As someone who grew up with the classic episodes, but was still in his early teens when the show declined, it's actually insane to me that some people try to write off the "don't watch past season 10" sentiment as simple nostalgia. The drop in show quality by season 12ish is just so stark I don't know how anybody doesn't see it.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 04:29
|
|
|
Unrelated to my above post: I'm a teacher and a bunch of students were lingering in the halls between classes so I had to herd them out of the locker area. One girl shouted at a boy to bring the goggles for science class and I immediately spat out, "Ze goggles, zay do nozing!" and the students just stared at me like I was a loving alien. They had never heard the quote before. This generation is doomed.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 04:47
|
|
|
Atlas Hugged posted:Unrelated to my above post: I'm a teacher and a bunch of students were lingering in the halls between classes so I had to herd them out of the locker area. One girl shouted at a boy to bring the goggles for science class and I immediately spat out, "Ze goggles, zay do nozing!" and the students just stared at me like I was a loving alien. They had never heard the quote before. This generation is doomed. that episode aired 28 years ago this september. by contrast, the gap between world wars i and ii was just shy of 21 years.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 05:14
|
|
|
The 90s equivalent would be a teacher riffing with material from the Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour. Sorry pal, you're old.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 06:04
|
|
|
All the kids in my family don’t even watch full episodes of cartoons they just watch streamers reacting to clips of cartoons. I didn’t think I’d feel this old before hitting 30
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 06:16
|
|
|
Party Boat posted:The 90s equivalent would be a teacher riffing with material from the Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour. Sorry pal, you're old. I poo poo you not, but this post just reminded me of a teacher telling me once, “Look that up in your Funk & Wagnalls!” in 1996 and expected me to get it. That was a recurring quote on Rowan & Martin’s Laugh-In.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 06:25
|
|
|
Sourdough Sam posted:So I've never really watched the Simpsons until it was all on D+. I had the privilege of the classic episodes being mostly new to me. Since the pandemic started I've become quite familiar to Seasons 3-10 and knew to not go past there. Having never seen what this show became I decided to see how long I would last on an episode from the current season. I always appreciate posts like these for the assurance of, no, I'm not crazy or sentimental: it got that bad.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 10:14
|
|
|
Counterpoint, my 13-14-yo nieces would absolutely get the goggles line and would also enthusiastically contribute to this discussion about the S10+ dropoff. It's not all bad out there Course this is because my brother raised 'em right (a steady diet of 80s cartoons which he would act out in any and all circumstances, like the spinning-sword screen wipes from He-Man. "Welp, time to go to work. HEEEEE-MAN")
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 11:12
|
|
|
Data Graham posted:Course this is because my brother raised 'em right (a steady diet of 80s cartoons which he would act out in any and all circumstances, like the spinning-sword screen wipes from He-Man. "Welp, time to go to work. HEEEEE-MAN") While the acting out's cool, 80's cartoons were objectively awful. Like just the worst. The Simpsons decline aside, there's a lot hell of a lot better animation and just TV in general now days.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 11:35
|
|
|
It's weird. There are a lot of kids in my school who have binged through Seinfeld and Friends and it's not like they don't know who The Simpsons are. They'd probably get an "eat my shorts" reference just because it's a catchphrase despite it not really being all that common in the show. There's just an absolute loving poo poo ton of The Simpsons and most of it's bad, so yeah it's not entirely unexpected that they didn't get that line, but it's such a good episode and such an iconic line that I thought there was a chance. Alternatively: am I so out of touch? No, it is the children who are wrong.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 11:45
|
|
|
hatty posted:All the kids in my family don’t even watch full episodes of cartoons they just watch streamers reacting to clips of cartoons. I didn’t think I’d feel this old before hitting 30 I think I remember reading that the average attention span went down from 12 minutes to 7 minutes in a decade.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 12:14
|
|
|
Prurient Squid posted:I think I remember reading that the average attention span went down from 12 minutes to 7 minutes in a decade. Farenheit 404
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 12:17
|
|
|
dr_rat posted:While the acting out's cool, 80's cartoons were objectively awful. Like just the worst. The Simpsons decline aside, there's a lot hell of a lot better animation and just TV in general now days. Oh for sure. It's all irreverent and silly and has contributed mightily to their now bonkers theatre-kid senses of humor. They're all about stuff like watching all the old Disney Afternoon stuff so they can get all the references in nu-DuckTales etc E: like he’ll mime out the bad Filmation rotoscoping and make it into a dance for the delight of all Data Graham fucked around with this message at 13:16 on Apr 19, 2023 |
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 12:41
|
|
|
We are probably at the stage where you have to intentionally expose your kids to early Simpsons for them to get it, sort of like sharing your favorite book. I probably get more jokes about 50's and 60's TV just because I watched a lot of Nick at Nite as an 80's kid, plus I have a geeky dad. If anyone says "Would you believe?" my brain will go straight to Maxwell Smart. But then, you never know when something will experience a revival. I certainly never would have predicted Columbo being possibly the one thing the Internet agrees on. Heck, the first thing I heard on the radio was Rick Astley, and I thought about how remarkable it was that a song about how much he just loves commitment got memed by the Internet into 21st century relevancy. For the record, my cousins have been going through it with their kids (5 & 11), and according to them, 22 Short Films About Springfield is the best one.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 16:02
|
|
|
Lot of people saying post season 10 drop off. I say seasons 9 and 10 were terrible. 8 is when the cracks began showing. And don't start on 3. Seasons 1 and 2 are great.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 16:15
|
|
|
Atlas Hugged posted:I'm an expat and I'm raising my son overseas. I've been going through early Simpsons with him as a primer to American culture. This summer is going to be the big test: will his cousins think he's a weirdo? lol this is like my parents raising me in the 90s on nothing but Happy Days reruns come to think of it, i did watch a lot of nick at nite, and i was NOT a popular child…
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 16:16
|
|
|
Master Twig posted:And don't start on 3. Seasons 1 and 2 are great. I never understood this common agreement with the majority of the Internet that 3 is where the gettin’ gets good and totally agree that seasons 1 and 2 are great.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 16:24
|
|
|
Season 3 is when the show starts to whackier and *really* funny, but I've really come round on seasons 1 & 2 as a fairly earnest family comedy-drama. Himer's original characterisation as a fairly conservative family patriarch is wild to look back on now though given where his character went
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 16:31
|
|
|
Rewatching the show as an adult for the first time, it's wild actually thinking about how well the supporting characters and world are crafted. I never thought about it as a kid, all these characters just always existed so there was never x episode that introduced Krusty, x episode that created Fat Tony etc. There's just this world of like 100 characters who are all instantly recognisable, it's never confusing, and it's exciting to see them all interact with each other in various combinations. Krusty has a TV show, Itchy and scratchy are on his TV show, he also owns the Krusty Burger where characters can visit separate to him but you still build on Krusty's character development in stories that don't even feature him. Krusty knows Fat Tony, Fat Tony knows Chief Wiggum, Chief Wiggum's son is Ralph who interacts with Lisa and Miss Hoover and Principle Skinner etc. You have multiple lawyer characters, multiple actors, Troy McClure and Rainer Wolfcastle, Wolfcastle plays McBain and Radioactive man, who Bart reads comic books of. You can basically pick any two characters and explain how they are linked together fairly easily. Its just wild how large and connected the whole universe is and how it all fits together. E: Eagerly awaiting the nuSimpsons episode about this guy: https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Lou_Simpson Annabel Pee fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Apr 19, 2023 |
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 16:31
|
|
|
3 is where the gettin gets good
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 16:31
|
|
|
UP AND ADAM posted:3 is where the gettin gets good  The Tracey Ullman Show 
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 16:35
|
|
|
I'm having fun reading through the Simpsons Wiki. They spend a whole page explaining why it's possible mr. Snrub may actually be Mr Burns in disguise.quote:Arguments have been made both for and against Mr. Snrub being a disguise or a separate person. Guy Incognito is given as an example of how even though a person initially appeared to be Homer Simpson wearing a disguise, they turned out to be a separate person.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 16:48
|
|
|
Over-scrupulous Internet nerds never change. They were called out in “The Itchy & Scratchy & Poochie Show,” and even earlier in Animaniacs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOtmdHiCJNY Ain’t nothing new. Hard to believe Animaniacs turns 30 this year.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 17:01
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/ewzzy/status/1648706924425142272?s=46&t=CBKJcBX0BD3U5HgUdsqBtw
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 17:34
|
|
|
Master Twig posted:Lot of people saying post season 10 drop off. This one gets it
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 18:14
|
|
|
Could anyone help me, I'm trying to find the sound effect of when someone in The Simpsons forgets something important or wants to leave without saying so and they leave the scene and off camera you hear 'step, step, step, stepstepstep, car engine starting, car peels out'. I can hear the sound effect in my head but I can't think of specifically when it happens.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 19:45
|
|
|
Olewithmilk posted:Could anyone help me, I'm trying to find the sound effect of when someone in The Simpsons forgets something important or wants to leave without saying so and they leave the scene and off camera you hear 'step, step, step, stepstepstep, car engine starting, car peels out'. I can hear the sound effect in my head but I can't think of specifically when it happens. Here's the first one I thought of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpB_mVbLZZg&t=36s
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 19:58
|
|
|
plainswalker75 posted:Here's the first one I thought of: Theres a similar bit where Homer runs upstairs and climbs out the window when he's forgot Marge's valentine's present.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 20:00
|
|
|
ditto lionel hutz climbs out the window during a "bathroom break" when homer is on trial with the devil
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 20:09
|
|
|
Leonard Nimoy in the Springfield Files running away when the production crew tells him there's ten minutes left in the episode
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 20:09
|
|
|
I'm sure Quimby has done something similar
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 20:11
|
|
|
Thank you everyone, perfect!
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 20:47
|
|
|
Master Twig posted:Lot of people saying post season 10 drop off. Yup, this is a good take. Although I’d disagree about S8 having cracks, could you provide examples? Skimming the ep list for S8 and wouldn’t skip a single one.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 21:03
|
|
|
Hyrax Attack! posted:Yup, this is a good take. Although I’d disagree about S8 having cracks, could you provide examples? Skimming the ep list for S8 and wouldn’t skip a single one. Yeah I'd actually say the cracks started forming in 9, especially kicking off with Principal and the Pauper (some good bits, completely disregards established characterizations for sake of telling a nonsense story for lulz). I'd see the show didn't get truly bad until 10-11 though could be mistaken, it's been a while since I've watched that far.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 21:10
|
|
|
Atlas Hugged posted:Unrelated to my above post: I'm a teacher and a bunch of students were lingering in the halls between classes so I had to herd them out of the locker area. One girl shouted at a boy to bring the goggles for science class and I immediately spat out, "Ze goggles, zay do nozing!" and the students just stared at me like I was a loving alien. They had never heard the quote before. This generation is doomed. They were just mortified you got the quote wrong.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 21:30
|
|
|
Like when our parents said "beam me up Scotty" and we just sneered at them
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 22:46
|
|
|
Hyrax Attack! posted:Yup, this is a good take. Although I’d disagree about S8 having cracks, could you provide examples? Skimming the ep list for S8 and wouldn’t skip a single one. Just cracks, but still a very solid season. A lot of the plots started to get a bit more out there. It's still good, but the overall tone of the show just started to feel a little bit different. It's hard to put exactly into words. I didn't care for the Spin-Off Showcase, the boxing episode, the military academy or lisa dating nelson.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 23:54
|
|
|
I would say that "Mary Bobbins" is an example. It has its moments, but it's not as good as previous musical parodies like Planet of the Apes or Streetcar.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2023 23:55
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 29, 2024 13:24 |
|
|
Seasons 1 and 2 are good (2 is actually great) but they're not what people think of when they think of classic Simpsons. If you were showing someone the show for the first time, or were trying to convince someone who has no idea the show used to be good, you wouldn't want to start at season 1 and would be better off picking a season 3-7 episode.
|
|
#
?
Apr 20, 2023 00:10
|
|