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Endorph posted:i dont really get acting like the entirety of fate died besides for fgo lol. they put out extella, extella link, a bunch of anime and manga that were unrelated to fgo (besides being in the fate franchise), that terrible cooking with emiya game, the tsukihime remake, melty blood, etc. im pretty sure more non-fgo fate content has come out since fgo came out than before it. I'll admit I expressed myself wrong, I was thinking more of Nasu projects specifically rather than Type Moon in general and even then it's not 100% on FGO but also Nasu himself.
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I mean, Nasu writes such giant stories for FGO that I can't blame him for making that his main priority, and even then, the extellas and the tsukihime remake were still his work. It's not like we were living in a golden age of nasu work before FGO, it was 7 years between FSN and mahotsukai and then 7 years between mahotsukai and the tsukihime remake.
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Yeah, a bad post in retrospect. Also more on topic, gently caress, I just realized I'll have to do MD on my phone whose battery drains real fast, gently caress. I really hope they change their mind on the anti-cheat or there's enough noise to make them think about it.
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Anyway yeah there's a few fights that no matter what I'm doing I can't seem to get nearly as fast as any of the guides but while I'm not gonna bang my head against it any more just to get under 120, I got a solid trim down from my first run, so I'm content (especially after being unavailable for most of week 1 anyway). In the end I'm just here to have a fun time with interesting characters anyway. 's all good, onwards to hell chicken!
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Endorph posted:i dont really get acting like the entirety of fate died besides for fgo lol. they put out extella, extella link, a bunch of anime and manga that were unrelated to fgo (besides being in the fate franchise), that terrible cooking with emiya game, the tsukihime remake, melty blood, etc. im pretty sure more non-fgo fate content has come out since fgo came out than before it. tbf Melty has 3 FGO dlc characters lol e: Anyway i'm in the middle of chapter 3 and man this Nest sucks. N corp going on a crusade through a village? Whatever. Someone acknowledging the homeless? WEE WOO TABOO DETECTED ALL HANDS ON DECK Yinlock fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Apr 19, 2023 |
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Yinlock posted:e: Anyway i'm in the middle of chapter 3 and man this Nest sucks. N corp going on a crusade through a village? Whatever. Someone acknowledging the homeless? WEE WOO TABOO DETECTED ALL HANDS ON DECK The impression I got was less they acknowledged the homeless and more Don Quixote tried to stab one of their guys for being an rear end in a top hat to the homeless. But yeah it is kind of weird that N-Corp essentially lets a violent extremist group loose inside their nest and they're just, okay with it? If K-Corp is the enemy next chapter, which the Refraction Railway seemed to imply with those K-Corp guys who we didn't see when they first showed up, it might explain why TheNabster fucked around with this message at 11:04 on Apr 19, 2023 |
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The best guess I've heard about that is the more popular prosthetics are, the more they devalue K Corp's healing bullets, so having N Corp dispose of the prosthetic makers is a win for both Corps.
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TheNabster posted:The impression I got was less they acknowledged the homeless and more Don Quixote tried to stab one of their guys for being an rear end in a top hat to the homeless. That's kinda what I meant by acknowledging them. With how the City usually rolls and how they call it a "Taboo" I expect that trying to help the homeless(and therefore making people acknowledge they exist) is a far greater crime than assaulting a guard. My guess is that a village is just deemed acceptable losses to K-corp, stopping N-corp would be a hassle and it's not like they're damaging anything actually important, like an executive's lawn.
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:Checking out stuff, it seems the Ruina artbook mentions P Corp uses their singularity to create giant tubs of ice cream, and the Shelter from March mentions a P Company it could be referring to P Corp even if the Shelter is an abnormality. So they make big storage stuff I guess? Mirinae's Credenza posted:There are twelve Fixer Associations across the City
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Easy mistake to make, there used to be thirteen, but now only twelve after the merger.
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Association 13 could be like District 26.
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Theantero posted:Easy mistake to make, there used to be thirteen, but now only twelve after the merger.
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Arzaac posted:The best guess I've heard about that is the more popular prosthetics are, the more they devalue K Corp's healing bullets, so having N Corp dispose of the prosthetic makers is a win for both Corps. That's probably part of it, but in the flashbacks Sinclair himself says that everything is started because he lets slip that his father made a deal with P Corp, which his father made him promise not to spill, so it's a form of Corporate warfare/house cleaning, which means Kromer was a diplomat/spy from N corp.
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I’m so excited to spend all my pulls, get nothing I want, and ragequit the game you guys.  That’s only half a joke, given that I’m trying to hit both warp Don and RB ryoshu within 160 or so pulls.
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I have 400+ crates so if things go wring I can prooobably spark both event stuff (if it's good, Sinclair ain't that attractive to me aince I lack Blade Lineage)
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GilliamYaeger posted:In that case, I'd assume the missing/destroyed one to be the Deici Association, since Dante isn't an active combatant. No, it was the Nine association. 7 8 9
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TeeQueue posted:I’m so excited to spend all my pulls, get nothing I want, and ragequit the game you guys. If this were FGO, I would tell you "good luck, lmao", but Limbus Company has actually sane rates, so I would say you have a solid chance.
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TeeQueue posted:I’m so excited to spend all my pulls, get nothing I want, and ragequit the game you guys. This is my situation, though I think it’s closer to 130 pulls. I am sitting on ~600 shard pick boxes so I can just select whatever if it comes down to it, but I sort of want to save that for EGOs which the game refuses to give me. Then again, these are probably the last ‘new’ banners we’re going to see in season 1, aren’t they, so I guess it’s getting on time to burn those chests anyway!
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Ayndin posted:This is my situation, though I think it’s closer to 130 pulls. I am sitting on ~600 shard pick boxes so I can just select whatever if it comes down to it, but I sort of want to save that for EGOs which the game refuses to give me. There's 1 more banner we're getting before Season 2 according to the roadmap. Also half the S1 boxes will become S2 boxes so the proper traditional way is to never use them cause what if you need them later? 
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Ayndin posted:This is my situation, though I think it’s closer to 130 pulls. I am sitting on ~600 shard pick boxes so I can just select whatever if it comes down to it, but I sort of want to save that for EGOs which the game refuses to give me.  According to the roadmap we have one more set of IDs before the end of S1, so keep a few chests if you aren't 100% set on this.
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...huh, I just noticed the S2 pass will have updates with new EGO. More levels or will they stagger the rewards?
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Could also be a way to hide story related twists (kinda like they did with the april 1st event thing).
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Turns out the rates are about double Fate/GO's for rate up 5*s, so I'm not really sure I'd call them reasonable or sane - they're both exceptionally bad actually, but that's the whole gacha model eh? Conveniently there's an event running in Fate now so we can check the rates on the banners directly - 0.800% for Miss Crane, a 5* vs 1.45% for Seven Section 6 Director Outis on the comparable banner in Limbus. But if you have the boxes at least you can get the character that way in Limbus...
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Jack Van Burace posted:Turns out the rates are about double Fate/GO's for rate up 5*s, so I'm not really sure I'd call them reasonable or sane - they're both exceptionally bad actually, but that's the whole gacha model eh? Conveniently there's an event running in Fate now so we can check the rates on the banners directly - 0.800% for Miss Crane, a 5* vs 1.45% for Seven Section 6 Director Outis on the comparable banner in Limbus. But if you have the boxes at least you can get the character that way in Limbus... 3% base for a(ny) premium unit is admittedly the best I've seen in any gacha I've played to date. I shudder to think what Fate's base rate is.
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Quackles posted:3% base for a(ny) premium unit is admittedly the best I've seen in any gacha I've played to date. I shudder to think what Fate's base rate is. 1% for a 5* in general, then an 80% chance of getting the banner unit.
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Limbus rates are pretty okay but it also has the most generous spark system I've ever seen in a gacha, so it makes up for it in spades. Seriously, I can't think of any other gacha that lets you so easily grind for WHATEVER you want with relative ease.
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I think the best rates I've seen for a gacha came from FFRK. Banners usually had like 9-12 rate-up items on them, and you had a 12% chance per pull to get a rate-up. Generally there were one or two grand prize items, but practically speaking any of the rate-up items were useful. Also for that matter it had a system where you guaranteed got a 5 star item on a 10-pull, which wasn't always a rate-up item but it was like an 80% chance.
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Whether a gacha is good or not depends on the game as a whole, more than just looking at the flat rates. Having a high SSR rate doesn't help if getting enough free currency to roll is a pain in the rear end. Having a pity system that lets you get your first copy of a unit easily doesn't help if you need to pull five copies of them to make them useful. For FGO, the rates aren't great and the pity system is a joke, but the rate you get F2P quartz is steady enough and the amount of extra rolling you need to do to make a character usable is low enough that I would call its gacha more arbitrary than bad. Similarly, people don't say Limbus' gacha is good because the gacha itself is good. They say it's good because the devs are generous with currency for rolls and the rate they hand out ego shards means it's easy to get stuff you missed. All of that could change, but it's a good start. Lurks With Wolves fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Apr 19, 2023 |
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I can't see the amount of shards you can get being the same come season 2, definitely expecting the BP crates being reduced to like 1 or the crates only having 1 shard instead of 1~3. Would be nice to be proven wrong though, but those are my predictions.
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You only get one crate per BP level unless you bought a battlepass, and if you do then mission accomplished on making you spend money?
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I can't see the amount of shards you can get being the same come season 2, definitely expecting the BP crates being reduced to like 1 or the crates only having 1 shard instead of 1~3. My assumption is that they aren't going to make the BP crates worse because that would be a really bad look, but they will make the battle pass longer and more staggered so you only get the 4.2 stuff when 4.2 comes out, which means there's less room for getting infinite shard crates through daily play.
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It's probably easier to just... massively nerf non-bonus MD runs cause that's the source of the massive stacks of crates. If they turn the EXP into 1 suddenly it's still grindable but much more of a pain and a 7x energy cost. Okay, I'll admit I'm biased because I don't farm MD and macro farmers are the reason they're putting Anticheat into the game.
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Lurks With Wolves posted:My assumption is that they aren't going to make the BP crates worse because that would be a really bad look, but they will make the battle pass longer and more staggered so you only get the 4.2 stuff when 4.2 comes out, which means there's less room for getting infinite shard crates through daily play. I feel like when the parts of the BP are finished we’ll be getting those bonus egoshard crates until the next part is released. That’s what makes sense to me, anyways. Otherwise we’re getting exp that does nothing at all, which is bad game feel.
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:It's probably easier to just... massively nerf non-bonus MD runs cause that's the source of the massive stacks of crates. If they turn the EXP into 1 suddenly it's still grindable but much more of a pain and a 7x energy cost. That'd basically kill mirror runs outside of the weekly boosts. 1 XP for ~30m of playtime means a single BP level now takes around 5 hours.
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I feel like if you wanted to nerf MD macro usage without affecting regular players you'd hike the Lunacy price for Enkephalin refill (or rather hike how fast it scales upwards).
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SITB posted:I feel like if you wanted to nerf MD macro usage without affecting regular players you'd hike the Lunacy price for Enkephalin refill (or rather hike how fast it scales upwards). I thought there was already a cap on the number of times you can refill using Luna each day?
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Quackles posted:I thought there was already a cap on the number of times you can refill using Luna each day? The problem is that the whole module system means you can max out on lunacy refills every day and just bank the modules for when you have time to actually play.
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I’m hoping to need to do no more than two shard picks here, and ideally less. I’d like to pick up Don Telepole by the end of the season, maybe mersault’s gacha EGO too. Not sure how many of those are worthwhile outside of completionism. Ayndin fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Apr 19, 2023 |
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