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Sedgr posted:Happy 4/20 It is not the 20th of April for more (yet) 
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Apr 19, 2023 23:46
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Drone_Fragger posted:Imagine being so loving brain poisoned that you look at an invading country doing honest to god genocide and go "well to further prevent the loss of life ukraine should just lie down and let the russians genocide them, peacefully" and then claim any self defence on the part of Ukraine is some kind of globalist nato plot to uh... Mmm... Hmm... Do an Imperialism??? "but HATO and США providing financial and military aid to Ukraine is the same as taking it over as their puppet!" - some useful idiot, maybe
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Apr 19, 2023 23:46
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zone posted:"but HATO and США providing financial and military aid to Ukraine is the same as taking it over as their puppet!" - some useful idiot, maybe The Soviet Union during WW2, famous American puppet.
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Apr 19, 2023 23:48
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Negostrike posted:Getting back to pre-war status quo is already a big compromise for them, if they want Donbas so much. I'm also going to add that Russian controlled state media lusts for the purging of all of Ukraine, Ukrainian culture and leveling of Kyiv. That doesn't sound like someone with a border dispute. Sounds more like a land grab of a country who wants to leave behind Russian influence to me and smalldickenergy putin is making a play. You know, they guy who views the collapse of USSR as the greatest tragedy of 20th century (lol ww2). If they could, they want every country from USSR under Russia. Baltics would of been crushed if they did'nt make a blind rush to NATO.
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Apr 19, 2023 23:54
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incomprehensible why ukraine just wont surrender to us, the military regularly sawing off heads of pows ISIS style when we're not kidnapping children and sending them thousands of miles away
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Apr 19, 2023 23:54
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https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1648734980632084520 I like where they're going with this, but I think the concept can go further. The kamikaze drones can be loaded with smaller kamikaze drones, which are also carrying drones. Basically drones all the way down. We'd only need to supply Ukraine with one of those, and they'd be set for the rest of the war.
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Apr 19, 2023 23:55
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Philonius posted:https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1648734980632084520 you can't fool me this was a boss in ace combat 7
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Apr 19, 2023 23:56
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Negostrike posted:There's no "anti-americanism" in this. He just said the truth. NATO is just making this poo poo worse. The only way to end this war quickly is to have a negotiation and both Ukraine and Russia are gonna have to compromise and yes, Ukraine and sorry liberals like you will have to swallow their tears and concede at least Crimea. Cruel reality, isn't it. No I completely agree that NATO is making it worse by dragging it out. NATO should intervene directly and end this already.
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Apr 19, 2023 23:59
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mobby_6kl posted:No I completely agree that NATO is making it worse by dragging it out. They already are. Who do you think has been sneaking turds into Putin's bed at night to make his inner circle think he is weak and enfeebled by rear end cancer?
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Apr 20, 2023 00:01
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Drone_Fragger posted:They already are. Who do you think has been sneaking turds into Putin's bed at night to make his inner circle think he is weak and enfeebled by rear end cancer? Oh poo poo you're right but I thought we weren't supposed to talk about that 
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Apr 20, 2023 00:04
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Philonius posted:https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1648734980632084520 Yo dawg, I heard you like drones. So we put drones, inside drones in your drone! Dammit can't find the xhibit emoji I thought we had. Drone_Fragger posted:They already are. Who do you think has been sneaking turds into Putin's bed at night to make his inner circle think he is weak and enfeebled by rear end cancer? Putin.
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Apr 20, 2023 00:06
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Negostrike posted:Getting back to pre-war status quo is already a big compromise for them, if they want Donbas so much. And it's one that they've repeatedly said they have no interest in making. Russia's current position is that surrendering the remainder of the annexed oblasts is the starting point for negotiation. Getting back to anything close to prewar status quo is going to take a certain amount of military persuasion. I suspect the "best case" scenario at this point is a moderately successful Ukrainian offensive in the south followed by some territorial horse-trading once both sides are too exhausted to continue. You could argue that trying to regain control of a few hundred km isn't worth the loss and devastation of additional fighting, but trading land for peace only works if you get a lasting peace out of it. This argument ultimately relies on the goodwill of Putin to not invade again, a position that historically has not worked out well for Ukraine.
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Apr 20, 2023 00:06
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mobby_6kl posted:NATO should intervene directly and end this already. No that is actually a very bad idea unless you want to live in the Deathlands universe which tbh is pretty fuckin rad and I recommend them all but you probably wouldn't like living there much
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Apr 20, 2023 00:08
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Deki posted:A Chamberlain for the modern era. I occasionally point out that Chamberlain had been on the Imperial Defense Committee for most of the 1930s and had been pushing for rearming just as fast as possible. Britain and France weren't ready in 1938, they were in 1939. The acceleration of tank and airplane construction up until the start of the war is honestly impressive, and the Chain Home air defense radar network was up and running when Britain declared war. Chamberlain was buying time, too bad he was spending Czechoslovakia to get it. The alternative was France being beaten faster and a Battle of Britain fought in 1938 or 39 with the country wide open to air attack.
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Apr 20, 2023 00:11
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HonorableTB posted:incomprehensible why ukraine just wont surrender to us, the military regularly sawing off heads of pows ISIS style when we're not kidnapping children and sending them thousands of miles away Checkmate, lib.
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Apr 20, 2023 00:15
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the holy poopacy posted:And it's one that they've repeatedly said they have no interest in making. Russia's current position is that surrendering the remainder of the annexed oblasts is the starting point for negotiation. Getting back to anything close to prewar status quo is going to take a certain amount of military persuasion. None of this is meant to be a realistic proposal. It's just Brazil sucking up to Russia because they're dependent on Russian resources and political support, and the war puts them in an awkward position. The war is far away and completely unimportant to Lula, except for how it affects Brazil. If they were at all serious about ending the war, they would want to convince Russia to change its mind, as in the end Russia is the only party that can decide when the war ends. Instead they go on about how good friends they are, and how to strengthen economic ties. Screaming about NATO won't have any negative repercussions for Brazil, and but Russia will be pleased and give them cheaper resources.
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Apr 20, 2023 00:25
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It's not up to Russia, the failing war crimes imperialist country, to dictate terms of peace in the slightest. The only correct morally acceptable outcome is where Russia is completely desperate to get out while it can and has no say in what it gets to keep.
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Apr 20, 2023 00:51
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:No, Russia can take their genocidal asses and just gently caress off and go home. Thats how it ends. And not try it again. Like mentioned in every third post in this thread if there was a ceasefire and things were frozen in place it would only be a matter of time before it was tried again and in other countries. Looks like the people of Ukraine don't want to be genocided, sorry, ethnically cleansed and/or live under Russian occupation and if you believe the votes in favor of annexation were conducted fairly you're a loving idiot at best. Seems like the Ukrainian people would rather not, all my adult life I've had to vote for the lesser of two evils and it's hard for me to see a world where Russia would fall into that category. Looks like a lot of Ukrainians see it the same way.
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Apr 20, 2023 00:59
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Set posted:Russian ships have been sighted quite clearly looking for vulnerabilities in civilian infrastructure in the Baltic Sea, and near Britain and Norway. Power and internet cables are extremely vulnerable, and them being damaged can both literally and figuratively leave millions in a black-out, making them a high priority target in either an all-out war between Russia and the Western nations or as a way to terrorize and threaten the nations who rely on these connections staying intact. thanks for these posts
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Apr 20, 2023 01:08
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mllaneza posted:I occasionally point out that Chamberlain had been on the Imperial Defense Committee for most of the 1930s and had been pushing for rearming just as fast as possible. Britain and France weren't ready in 1938, they were in 1939. The acceleration of tank and airplane construction up until the start of the war is honestly impressive, and the Chain Home air defense radar network was up and running when Britain declared war. Chamberlain was buying time, too bad he was spending Czechoslovakia to get it. The alternative was France being beaten faster and a Battle of Britain fought in 1938 or 39 with the country wide open to air attack. I'm not sure if an earlier war would be better or worse for the allies - Germany was also still rearming at that time. After they were allowed to annex Czechoslovakia they seized all their tanks, and had more Czech tanks produced in the lead up to the war. About 15% of German tanks used against France were Czech-made - and they tended to be better than the majority Panzer I / IIs the Germans were using at that time. France had actually maintained a large army in the interwar years (they had more and arguably better tanks than Germany in 1940, just didn't use them well) - so the balance of forces would probably be even more in French favor if they clashed in 1938.
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Apr 20, 2023 01:10
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Storkrasch posted:The Soviet Union during WW2, famous American puppet. Hey now, when Lend-Lease was signed the line of Soviets and their western allies was that it was needlessly prolonging the war, that the Polish and French should lie down and stop resisting, the British should stand down and compromise, and the Americans should stay out of foreign wars. It wasn't until a few short months later that they magically became the only people who opposed fascism ever. Ironically enough, neither the period where Russia was willing to fight Finland and Poland to the last Ukrainian and Kazakhstani, nor the period where they nearly did have to fight Germany to the last Ukrainian and Kazakhstani, were really motivated by communism vs capitalism. The first was just Stalin's stupid imperialism and the second was the consequences of Stalin wanting a bigger empire so bad that he trusted the Nazis.
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Apr 20, 2023 01:13
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Negostrike posted:Russia won't leave unless someone pops a cap in Pootn Don't threaten me with a good time
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Apr 20, 2023 01:34
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Philonius posted:https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1648734980632084520 Droneception... drones all the way down. 
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Apr 20, 2023 01:39
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https://i.imgur.com/tUmgn96.mp4
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Apr 20, 2023 01:48
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Philonius posted:https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1648734980632084520 I think thats one of the most terrifying of those types of videos I have seen. Have the Quadbike Terminators made it to the frontline yet?
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Apr 20, 2023 01:57
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Drop that fuckin phone and watch out for enemy fire or your amazing life won't last gdi
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Apr 20, 2023 02:53
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 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcIhH1Vmz8I I don't think there are any dead bodies but there is some footage and destroyed equipment. Mostly maps.still a hopium account, but sounds like while it's unlikely to immediately cause a breakthrough the counteroffensive is considered to have started along the southern line of contact. I wonder how many of those glide bombs Russia has.
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Apr 20, 2023 03:12
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Sedgr posted:Happy 4/20 https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/1648672848532127748?s=20
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Apr 20, 2023 03:19
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For the counteroffensive I predict an axis of advance towards Melitopol and then on to Mariupol, with the aim to sever the land bridge to Crimea
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Apr 20, 2023 03:24
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HonorableTB posted:For the counteroffensive I predict an axis of advance towards Melitopol and then on to Mariupol, with the aim to sever the land bridge to Crimea Pretty bold. No one will see it coming.
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Apr 20, 2023 03:25
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I wonder how long it would take for Putin to invade Kazakhstan if he ever manages to get his Ukrainian quagmire resolved. No way the loss of Baikonur last month is sitting well for an idiot who wants to bask in past glories.
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Apr 20, 2023 03:26
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Deteriorata posted:Pretty bold. No one will see it coming. i'll take my medals now for brilliant armchair generaling
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Apr 20, 2023 03:27
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tiaz posted:
Why do you call it a hopium account? I've found his videos pretty even handed pulling from both Ukrainian and Russian sources. He's obviously pro-Ukraine, but I find he tries to use Russian sources to verify Ukranian claimed gains so as not to overstate things.
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Apr 20, 2023 03:40
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Grammarchist posted:I wonder how long it would take for Putin to invade Kazakhstan if he ever manages to get his Ukrainian quagmire resolved. No way the loss of Baikonur last month is sitting well for an idiot who wants to bask in past glories. Going to be some real shabby western military donations leftover for whoever is the next Ukraine after the current emptying out of every dusty storeroom wraps up. Like here you go, an engineless Mig-1 areoplane taken down from the rafters of a roadside tourist attraction, some of those mostly-scaffold tail Bell helicopters, some crates of Webley revolvers and two tommy guns sharing one ammo drum.
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Apr 20, 2023 03:52
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confused posted:Why do you call it a hopium account? I've found his videos pretty even handed pulling from both Ukrainian and Russian sources. He's obviously pro-Ukraine, but I find he tries to use Russian sources to verify Ukranian claimed gains so as not to overstate things. That's my experience with him too. He does definitely have a pro-Ukraine bias but he has always called out when Ukraine has had battlefield losses as well
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Apr 20, 2023 03:55
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Grammarchist posted:I wonder how long it would take for Putin to invade Kazakhstan if he ever manages to get his Ukrainian quagmire resolved. No way the loss of Baikonur last month is sitting well for an idiot who wants to bask in past glories. I think consensus in space community is that aside from the legal formality of the confiscated assets, the relatively paltry disputed debt of a few tens of million dollars russia could no doubt find behind a couch in Putler's black sea palace if that's what it took to make nice with Kazakhstan and resume commercial operation as needed. There's still a scheduled 2024 Roscosmos launch on the books, and several long term joint initiatives are supposedly still continuing. That said, yeah, Kazakhstan I think is quietly building ties with China and will look to enter their commercial orbit and it will be interesting to see whether China will choose to support Kazakstan in a future conflict. Best outcome possible of course is that before that happens, the rus federation and its empire ambitions are properly humbled by a terminal economic implosion.
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Apr 20, 2023 04:10
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HonorableTB posted:That's my experience with him too. He does definitely have a pro-Ukraine bias but he has always called out when Ukraine has had battlefield losses as well The pro Ukraine bias is all I meant to convey. When things go poorly for Ukraine he identifies it but also offers a plausible out - but Russian failures are decisive and permanent. I don't especially mind that - why advise your enemy - and I didn't mean to suggest he makes stuff up, but I wanted to be clear that it's a biased source (albeit in this case the most newsworthy thing is echoing an official).
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Apr 20, 2023 05:51
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Negostrike posted:There's no "anti-americanism" in this. He just said the truth. NATO is just making this poo poo worse. The only way to end this war quickly is to have a negotiation and both Ukraine and Russia are gonna have to compromise and yes, Ukraine and sorry liberals like you will have to swallow their tears and concede at least Crimea. Cruel reality, isn't it. Hey, genuinely interested, how is NATO making this worse by allowing Ukraine to defend itself, and how is this any different to Lend-Lease in WW2? Should France, Russia, Poland etc have just let Germany in to genocide their populations without resistance? Would this have led to a better, more peaceful multi-polar world?
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Apr 20, 2023 05:57
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Philonius posted:https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1648734980632084520 
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Captain Theron posted:Hey, genuinely interested, how is NATO making this worse by allowing Ukraine to defend itself, and how is this any different to Lend-Lease in WW2? Should France, Russia, Poland etc have just let Germany in to genocide their populations without resistance? Would this have led to a better, more peaceful multi-polar world? I think what confuses me more is him saying Ukraine has to concede Crimea to negotiate when Crimea was lost like 10 loving years ago and Ukraine had no intention of capability of military conquest in Crimea until very recently. Putin could loving quit the war now walk away and Crimea would probably not fall back into ukrianian hands unless Russia erodes it's military so much that Crimea is undefendable due to manpower
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