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He’s been a known sexual harasser for approximately as long as I’ve been alive and that’s been a shoulder shrug even though everyone knows. It seems like a bipartisan consensus that the supreme court justices are above the law and free from all consequences.
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So Clarence's mother gets to live in her house, for free, with free maintenance and improvements, all provided by Clarence's good billionaire buddy friend who CERTAINLY has no influence?
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Apr 14, 2023 13:22
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No you see it's fine because Thomas was already going to be on the billionaire side always and forever due to deep friendship Would you make friendship illegal
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Apr 14, 2023 13:29
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It's interesting to me that obvious gifts to an official's parents are bribes, but gifts to their kids are not. It's a shame Thomas is childless, because then instead of giving his mom hundreds of thousands of dollars via a fake house sale, Harlan could have given his kid hundreds of thousands of dollars via a fake job instead and we'd all be expected to agree that it's fine.
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Apr 14, 2023 14:46
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Well obviously the kid would have only attended the best schools and thus be definitely qualified so why shouldn't they be allowed to have the job you can't punish a child for being the son of a government official
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Apr 14, 2023 14:52
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Harold Fjord posted:Well obviously the kid would have only attended the best schools and thus be definitely qualified so why shouldn't they be allowed to have the job you can't punish a child for being the son of a government official Exactly! And their parents would obviously be gifted intellectually as well, so we can't punish Thomas' mom for negotiating a great real estate deal! If you found someone willing to give you a reverse mortgage deal like that you'd take it too!
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Feels like pretty good work by ProPublica to drip this stuff out slowly. They got some flack from other journalism outlets for their previous reporting not breaking much new ground (just tying a lot of previously-known stuff together) but it makes a lot more sense now to put that out to get people talking and defending him and THEN publish this. Makes me wonder if they have more to come.
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Sub Par posted:Feels like pretty good work by ProPublica to drip this stuff out slowly. They got some flack from other journalism outlets for their previous reporting not breaking much new ground (just tying a lot of previously-known stuff together) but it makes a lot more sense now to put that out to get people talking and defending him and THEN publish this. Makes me wonder if they have more to come. Im sure there's more; he's probably been not reporting all sorts of things for two decades. I'm waiting for them to find something fishy from someone, which, in an amazing coincidence, was right around the time he ruled in their favor.
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:As someone from Illinois, I look back and I am surprised that the D party was willing to drop Blago that quickly. Part of it was him being politically and personally insufferable, a sort of anti-Daley. That shouldn’t matter in these kinds of affairs but it does.
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Meatball posted:Im sure there's more; he's probably been not reporting all sorts of things for two decades. His options, while batshit even from the general standard of the court's right, are incredibly consistent; you'd be very hard pressed to find any cases where he didn't rule exactly as you'd think he would. Which means the action would likely be in the grant or deny cert realm, where the there is no paper trail and we could only find out through a leak from a justice or clerk.
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Staluigi posted:This Clarence Thomas poo poo originally felt like a shoulder shrug "won't be talking about it in a week" thing but propublica just kept going until it turned into something that would at least have the decency to dog him for the rest of his life Media endlessly hounding corrupt fucks like Thomas and the Texas judge right wingers shop their cases to would be more than welcome. VitalSigns posted:It's interesting to me that obvious gifts to an official's parents are bribes, but gifts to their kids are not. Thomas does in fact have a son and it's not exactly a secret (though iirc his son tries to keep out of the public's attention)
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It does suck that every day something new corrupt thing about Thomas comes out and not only will nothing happen to him but the Democrats won't even put up the appearance of doing something.
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 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/clarence-thomas-financial-disclosure-forms-real-estate_n_643cde8ce4b03031958de79d No harm no foul he just missed some line items on the form but will do that now. Please stop reporting on it thanks. What a joke
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Whom amongst us hasn't committed a little bit of fraud for decades by mistake?
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Groovelord Neato posted:It does suck that every day something new corrupt thing about Thomas comes out and not only will nothing happen to him but the Democrats won't even put up the appearance of doing something. The Democrats are holding hearings on judicial ethics based on this. The whole reason it's come to light is because the Democrats pushed the creation of the disclosure and ethics codes in question. They're also telling the Judicial Conference to refer him to DOJ. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Apr 17, 2023 |
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cr0y posted:No harm no foul he just missed some line items on the form but will do that now. Please stop reporting on it thanks. https://twitter.com/AnthonyMKreis/status/1647947144505049095
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Reminder that it's tax day and you better not gently caress up a single decimal point. I took had no income until called on it.
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I watched two people plead to failure to file a tax return a few weeks ago One was a former cheerleader who'd been part of some massive money laundering ring the other was a retired schoolteacher who just forgot one year they both had to plead to a criminal charge for time served and a fine
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I watched two people plead to failure to file a tax return a few weeks ago That's crazy, if you don't owe money you still have to file a tax return in the US? My family knows an older gentleman who, uh, shall we say has been a hard worker but isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. Hadn't filed a return in decades, but still got deductions from source. A non-profit helped him do all the paperwork, and far from being punished, he received thousands -- maybe tens of thousands -- of money that got deducted but he didn't actually owe.
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PT6A posted:That's crazy, if you don't owe money you still have to file a tax return in the US? You have to file if you get more than 4k in income.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:You have to file if you get more than 4k in income. Where did you get this number? Is this some sort of state law? That's not nearly how federal filing requirements and penalties normally work.
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Discendo Vox posted:Where did you get this number? Is this some sort of state law? Might be, yeah, it's from memory and an old memory at that. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Apr 19, 2023 |
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Discendo Vox posted:Where did you get this number? Is this some sort of state law? That's not nearly how federal filing requirements and penalties normally work. Around more I think 6k or so and federal law, some states might have their own state filing requirements.
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For the record, the usual federal single taxpayer threshold is now like 12k-there's a really low nonzero one for people who are married filing separately but that's iirc because there are specific ways to hide income involved with married filing separately. The penalty for failing to pay taxes is normally...the taxes you owe plus a percentage. And IRS obviously doesn't spend incredibly scarce resources on people who don't owe taxes. The idea of a plea of any kind for time served is completely beyond the pale- unless you're doing poo poo like conducting active fraud, there's no way. fake edit: yeah, $12,950. Here's the thresholds: https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/who-needs-to-file-a-tax-return Here's the penalty discussion: https://www.irs.gov/payments/failure-to-file-penalty
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I thought you only had to file, or at least only risked a stern talking to and a letter with some figures on it, if you were due a refund? I guess in that case you're still expected to file, but since the end result would be giving you money, they don't care if you don't? edit - which of course begs the question as to why anybody with a standard return has to file at all, though there's no way Thomas is in this group
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Epic High Five posted:I thought you only had to file, or at least only risked a stern talking to and a letter with some figures on it, if you were due a refund? I guess in that case you're still expected to file, but since the end result would be giving you money, they don't care if you don't? There are edge cases, but the answer is primarily the IRS being hosed ten different ways by the tax prep industry. Steps are being taken under this administration to reverse the trend, both with a massive funding boost (that Congressional Rs are attempting to pull) and the implementation of an IRS-run free filing service.
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Everyone who has a marketplace health insurance plan with subsidies has to file, regardless of income.
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Apr 19, 2023 03:54
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cr0y posted:US taxed in a nutshell Not really the thread for just a screenshot and minimal commentary, sorry. Come to dadchat to unwind and post easy, this is a
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cr0y posted:US taxed in a nutshell No. Again, not how it works. People don't have to guess how much they owe, and it would be remarkably difficult to go to jail over anything less than sustained fraud.
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PT6A posted:That's crazy, if you don't owe money you still have to file a tax return in the US? If you just don't file and are owed a return then you just don't get the money until you file back returns like your family friend did (no idea how many years back you can go to claim refunds) E: https://www.varnumlaw.com/insights/top-five-reasons-why-not-filing-an-income-tax-return-is-a-bad-idea quote:If you are entitled to a refund, you are generally not penalized for filing late. However, you only have three years from the due date of the return to file the return and claim your refund. After that three-year period, any unclaimed refund is automatically turned over to the government. Further, if your late-filed return is subsequently audited resulting in an underpayment of tax, the late filing and late payment penalties will be applied. VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 14:05 on Apr 19, 2023 |
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What are the chances that a normal wage-earner owes tax rather than getting a refund of withholdings?
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PT6A posted:What are the chances that a normal wage-earner owes tax rather than getting a refund of withholdings? First google result says 11 million Americans (totaling $125 billion). I was always told that whoever is doing the accounting at wherever you work is probably withholding more than they need to you, which is why you usually get a refund, especially if you don't take deductions on the front end. edit: CNBC said 40% of us households owe no federal taxes.
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Yeah, the dirt poor population for the most part. Have a few child credits, have a standard deduction of 25K and that household who took in 38K last year owes nothing. But they still pay medicare, social security and other withholdings.
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Cimber posted:Yeah, the dirt poor population for the most part. Have a few child credits, have a standard deduction of 25K and that household who took in 38K last year owes nothing. pay and owe aren't the same thing!
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Mooseontheloose posted:pay and owe aren't the same thing! No, I'm saying they still pay those other taxes, as well as have federal income tax deductions withheld throughout the year. But after they file their taxes they would get whatever the FIT withholding back as a check. Which gets taxed as income the next year by the states.
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You can't be charged with a crime for not filing taxes if you don't owe the government money for the the very good reason of you not filing in that case did not harm the federal government, in fact if you were owed money and didn't file to collect it, the government thanks you for the 0% interest loan you have given them
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Mooseontheloose posted:First google result says 11 million Americans (totaling $125 billion). You tell your employer your tax situation on your W4 and your employer follows the IRS rules on what to deduct, which tend to over-deduct because it’s easier for the IRS to send you a check than to try and collect. Sally in accounting isn’t sitting there and coming up with new ways to give more of your pay to the IRS.
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