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tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
I'm rewatching the Animatrix where a guy has to run from the cops, runs into a woman's restroom, and they all shout "freak" and "get out of here you're not a girl" as the kid uses gender to escape the system and become real

🤔

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tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
Also his name is Karl popper just in case you thought this movie had any subtlety whatsoever

Mola Yam
Jun 18, 2004

Kali Ma Shakti de!
more like karl pooper

(because he's in a bathroom)

to poop

more falafel please
Feb 26, 2005

forums poster

tokin opposition posted:

I'm rewatching the Animatrix where a guy has to run from the cops, runs into a woman's restroom, and they all shout "freak" and "get out of here you're not a girl" as the kid uses gender to escape the system and become real

🤔

pretty sure at least lana knew before they wrote the matrix

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Mola Yam posted:

more like karl pooper

(because he's in a bathroom)

to poop

he's got intolerances

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
https://twitter.com/jjvincent/status/1648594881198039040?s=20

VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.
Tom Scott visits the torment nexus research team:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRIBVykhpC4

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan
these chatbots are so stupid they gonna join the butlerian jihad on the side of the butlers

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

Goa Tse-tung posted:

these chatbots are so stupid they gonna join the butlerian jihad on the side of the butlers

do not read the dune prequels i beg you

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

NYU Professor and Chief Scientist of AI at Meta, ladies and gentlemen

https://twitter.com/ylecun/status/1647644010104901633

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


i hate these people

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




can you really blame them for hoping their work will have profound and meaningful consequences rather than acknowledging the reality that AI will probably just operate McDonalds drive thrus and customer service calls?

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️
muh "soon to have omnipotence beyond measure but willing slaves" argument

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 minutes!

tokin opposition posted:

Also his name is Karl popper just in case you thought this movie had any subtlety whatsoever

kuhnt >>> pooper

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 minutes!

Mola Yam posted:

more like karl pooper

(because he's in a bathroom)

to poop

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor


e: lol

Buck Wildman has issued a correction as of 16:10 on Apr 19, 2023

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005


wild

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
in the replies someone is claiming the robot is lying about the recipe, too. not that i'm in a position to see, being a humble dumbass who knows nothing of chemistry. and that's why this stupid thing is so pernicious. if i ask it to speak on something i am ignorant about and it lies, how do i know?

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)

webcams for christ posted:

NYU Professor and Chief Scientist of AI at Meta, ladies and gentlemen

https://twitter.com/ylecun/status/1647644010104901633

The girl ais will be programmed to gather berries while the boy ais will be taught to hunt refugees in drones :biotruths:

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor


https://twitter.com/jaketropolis/status/1648802176762781702?t=oe1kw2Bh5-UR--Ujp3dlcA&s=19

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

uber_stoat posted:

in the replies someone is claiming the robot is lying about the recipe, too. not that i'm in a position to see, being a humble dumbass who knows nothing of chemistry. and that's why this stupid thing is so pernicious. if i ask it to speak on something i am ignorant about and it lies, how do i know?

It's probably just flat out wrong rather than lying, these chatbots screw up complex ideas with remarkable frequency

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Vox Nihili posted:

It's probably just flat out wrong rather than lying
what’s the distinction here?

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

TACD posted:

what’s the distinction here?

Machines can't lie because they're not conscious. Lying, as in misrepresenting something as fact, is always deceptive, and that requires theory of mind. This thing is just auto complete on steroids.

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 minutes!

mycomancy posted:

Machines can't lie because they're not conscious. Lying, as in misrepresenting something as fact, is always deceptive, and that requires theory of mind. This thing is just auto complete on steroids.

"Buy what if humans are just machines," he said Eloningly

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 minutes!

Vox Nihili posted:

It's probably just flat out wrong rather than lying, these chatbots screw up complex ideas with remarkable frequency

that's exactly what skynet would want you to think

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

ArmZ posted:

that's exactly what skynet would want you to think

"the chatbot is pure and infallible, it can only be failed" he rutibexes, as the MIRVs fall

Rozzbot
Nov 4, 2009

Pork, lamb, chicken and ham
Naplam is indeed a fuel and a thickening agent so it sticks to things and doesn't just evaporate immediately.

Adding an oxidiser doesn't initiate an exothermic reaction by itself. Igniting it certainly does though

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

tokin opposition posted:

I'm rewatching the Animatrix where a guy has to run from the cops, runs into a woman's restroom, and they all shout "freak" and "get out of here you're not a girl" as the kid uses gender to escape the system and become real

🤔

See also: The Robot Bitch segment.

Ruffian Price
Sep 17, 2016

TACD posted:

what’s the distinction here?

If you open up a present and there's nothing inside, it's not the box itself that tricked you

Cpt. Obvious
Feb 19, 2008

Has anyone posited the idea of making the perfect poster via scrubbing the forums into an LLM yet? Maybe we can keep posting forever...

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
I'm a general AI posting takes so bad it undermines humanity and leads to my keikaku to take over in 2029

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:

Cpt. Obvious posted:

Has anyone posited the idea of making the perfect poster via scrubbing the forums into an LLM yet? Maybe we can keep posting forever...
guy named roko suggested it

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


So boring shower thought:

These new chatbots are, at this point, not just wrong about things, but lack any ability to distinguish true from untrue information. And this is something that 90% of people notice pretty quickly. It produces unusable code, cites fake authors, makes illegal chess moves, and most obviously and amusingly makes grammatical mistakes that a desk calculator wouldn't.

And the thing is that there are people out there designing stuff that does produce novel, useful, accurate information. Genetic algorithms have been in use for years producing clever, and frequently bizarre, engineering solutions. But weird AI boosters aren't impressed with this, they're impressed with a chatbot that tells you 10x10=1010.

The one thing that these bots do is that they string together GAD-compliant grammatical sentences. Which is pretty impressive in its own right, but is far, far removed from "intelligent." And this makes me think of the coworkers I have who, having grown up in either West Africa or using AAVE, tend to use grammatical constructions that are not GAD-compliant. But this has little bearing on whether or not they know their poo poo, and its pretty easy to evaluate their arguments and ideas. I get that if you're not familiar with the grammatical differences that makes it a little harder but that's a pretty readily acquired skill.

Anyway, my point is that the people who are fooled by chatGPT are people who think that intelligence is just using "proper" grammar. They don't think that accurate information, or novel ideas, or good judgment, or consistency, or any of that is part of intelligence. All of that is subordinate to "proper grammar." If you speak with "proper" English you're smart, if you don't you're dumb.

God I hate these assholes.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


Cpt. Obvious posted:

Has anyone posited the idea of making the perfect poster via scrubbing the forums into an LLM yet? Maybe we can keep posting forever...

good news!

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)

Tulip posted:

So boring shower thought:

These new chatbots are, at this point, not just wrong about things, but lack any ability to distinguish true from untrue information. And this is something that 90% of people notice pretty quickly. It produces unusable code, cites fake authors, makes illegal chess moves, and most obviously and amusingly makes grammatical mistakes that a desk calculator wouldn't.

And the thing is that there are people out there designing stuff that does produce novel, useful, accurate information. Genetic algorithms have been in use for years producing clever, and frequently bizarre, engineering solutions. But weird AI boosters aren't impressed with this, they're impressed with a chatbot that tells you 10x10=1010.

The one thing that these bots do is that they string together GAD-compliant grammatical sentences. Which is pretty impressive in its own right, but is far, far removed from "intelligent." And this makes me think of the coworkers I have who, having grown up in either West Africa or using AAVE, tend to use grammatical constructions that are not GAD-compliant. But this has little bearing on whether or not they know their poo poo, and its pretty easy to evaluate their arguments and ideas. I get that if you're not familiar with the grammatical differences that makes it a little harder but that's a pretty readily acquired skill.

Anyway, my point is that the people who are fooled by chatGPT are people who think that intelligence is just using "proper" grammar. They don't think that accurate information, or novel ideas, or good judgment, or consistency, or any of that is part of intelligence. All of that is subordinate to "proper grammar." If you speak with "proper" English you're smart, if you don't you're dumb.

God I hate these assholes.

You can just say D&D posters friend. This is a safe space

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


tokin opposition posted:

You can just say D&D posters friend. This is a safe space

The dystopian part is that D&D posterism has escaped containment and is the norm on twitter.

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




You can tell the chatbots to write in dialects

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

duz posted:

good news!


Wouldn't that be forums.somethingawful.com

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Amphigory
Feb 6, 2005




Fitzy Fitz posted:

You can tell the chatbots to write in dialects

ChatGPT do the racist voice

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