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In post-Elite Four Ruby/Sapphire remakes (and maybe the originals) you can go back to Contests and now not only will you meet that new Contest rival character as a contestant but also other characters including Gym Leaders and I think Elite Four members, even the Champion, and your other rivals as fellow contestants. It's also always fun to enter a Legendary Pokemon in a contest.
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If we''re talking card minigames, I really enjoy Blade in the first two Cold Steel games and Tokyo Xanadu eX+ (Blade 2 from CS2 and Tokyo Xanadu moreso, as it has a few extra Spell card types). It's just an addictive little pass-time card game that's played with a set deck and no bullshit rear end-pull cards for opponents to have. Just a set of numbered cards and spell cards, trying to keep your total higher than your opponents til one of you can't escalate any further.
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Uru, the Myst MMO, had (technically still has  ) a five-player rock-paper-scissors game that's surprising good despite otherwise being very basic.
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I have a lot of little things I could nominate as best little thing in Octopath Traveler II. A whole lot. But one in particular stands out. Partitio, the merchant character, lives in a dying town. His response to its misfortune and poverty is to start a no-poo poo socialist revolution. But that’s not my favorite part. My favorite part is when he has the onset of his extremely anime revelation and dedicates himself to that revolution. This stuff is cornball as hell in every game that ever does it, but along with his hammy speech, this is what you hear: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Fx3aOckU0UY&feature=share I genuinely don’t know if this is parody, but this tune played straight while a guy with a hillbilly accent amps up to destroy literal capitalism—game is not subtle about this—hit me in such a bizarre way. I am not a game music person, but everything about that moment was so bizarre and sort of self-aware. Parody or not, it got me. Equally hilarious and awesome and cheesy, somehow affecting and brazen. Honestly, OT2 is like that in general. Most of the things I’d praise it for have a lot to do with its genre savvy and self-awareness.
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Gwent talk reminds me that in the Blood and Wine expansion for the Witcher 3, one specific side quest resolution causes a certain person to die in exactly 7 years, and until then they choose to travel and experience the world. If you let seven years' worth of in-game days pass, you can find their dead body in one of the base game areas.
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Kanfy posted:Gwent talk reminds me that in the Blood and Wine expansion for the Witcher 3, one specific side quest resolution causes a certain person to die in exactly 7 years, and until then they choose to travel and experience the world. If you let seven years' worth of in-game days pass, you can find their dead body in one of the base game areas. Goddamn, they knew someone would try this out
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BurningBeard posted:I have a lot of little things I could nominate as best little thing in Octopath Traveler II. A whole lot. But one in particular stands out. It isn't parody. Partitio is just as anime gung ho about destroying poverty as Goki is about punching dudes
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Finally getting around to Kingdom Hearts: Melody of Memory, which is fun. A very cute thing is that it has nods to the games that weren't mainline games, like where you get to the KH2 and Chain of Memories levels, the CoM levels are branched off on their own little path and aren't directly in the critical path. I thought that that was funny.
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Morpheus posted:At first I enjoyed Gwent, until I realized it was an in-universe pay-to-win scam. Not rich enough to have a deck full of those 10-score cards that are immune to everything? Have fun losing, nerd. And then you get those cards and use them to poo poo on swamp peasants who foolishly didn’t spend their last year’s savings on a rare gwent card. gwent rules.
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Apr 18, 2023 19:59
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For any item hoarders out there, when you're in a situation where most of your party is low on health and absolutely hosed on status ailments and can probably maneuver back from the brink but it'll be slow and fraught with peril and then the boss will probably just use their most annoying move again... ...screw that and crack open a cold (Mega)lixir. Let the satisfaction of getting out of trouble free wash over you. It feels loving amazing and you'll be cured forever.
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Tonfa posted:For any item hoarders out there, when you're in a situation where most of your party is low on health and absolutely hosed on status ailments and can probably maneuver back from the brink but it'll be slow and fraught with peril and then the boss will probably just use their most annoying move again... This is also true of heroin
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Stranger of paradise doesn't have any consumable items and that's great. I realized at the end of wo long fallen dynasty that I had used a total of 1 consumable over the course of the entire game, and it was because I was trying to heal and had tabbed over to the wrong thing by accident. I'm playing SOP now that it's on steam and I do not miss consumables at all. they are really just cruft in many cases.
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I hoarded my grenades in RE4R so that I could shove them in a big sack and throw it at the dual Garradors
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Tonfa posted:For any item hoarders out there, when you're in a situation where most of your party is low on health and absolutely hosed on status ailments and can probably maneuver back from the brink but it'll be slow and fraught with peril and then the boss will probably just use their most annoying move again... I got through a bunch of bullshit endgame stuff in Cold Steel 1 and 2 by flinging Zeram Capsules on dead people.
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ArcMage posted:I got through a bunch of bullshit endgame stuff in Cold Steel 1 and 2 by flinging Zeram Capsules on dead people. That series has SO MANY consumables.
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Owl Inspector posted:Stranger of paradise doesn't have any consumable items and that's great. I realized at the end of wo long fallen dynasty that I had used a total of 1 consumable over the course of the entire game, and it was because I was trying to heal and had tabbed over to the wrong thing by accident. I'm playing SOP now that it's on steam and I do not miss consumables at all. they are really just cruft in many cases. I don't see anything wrong with going the no consumable route, but I think consumable bloat is kinda cool. It's really neat and flavorful even when ultimately useless. Persona 5 is really brazen about this, to the extent that there are literal multiple items that do the same thing with different names. But they pull you into the world of the game. Really I think the biggest issue with consumables is that they are too often outdone by abilities the player will get inherently and that's why people don't use them, besides the hoarding tendencies.
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BurningBeard posted:I don't see anything wrong with going the no consumable route, but I think consumable bloat is kinda cool. It's really neat and flavorful even when ultimately useless. Persona 5 is really brazen about this, to the extent that there are literal multiple items that do the same thing with different names. But they pull you into the world of the game. At least in the SMT/Persona/Pokemon games, consumables still fill a niche where you have limited slots to work with or let you cover an elemental weakness earlier on when you may not have full 8 elements covered plus multiple physical attacks, plus they made most items easy to get so you don't feel bad when you use, say, a medkit when you can stock back up to the cap after the dungeon.
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I always find speedruns fun to watch for consumables because you see abilities and items that most people never find a use for actually get some play, like FF7 where people use grenades early on because none of their other attacks do as much damage due to their low level.
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SMT/Persona are basically the only series where I will consistently use items, because dealing proper elemental damage is more than just an extra bit of damage, it's an extra turn, and that extra turn is also going to be more effective than a normal turn. Pulling out the limited-carry items and nullifying an attack is more than just not having to heal later, taking one of your turns for one of theirs, it can actively rob multiple turns from the enemy. The SP economy is also tuned such that I will prefer going into my inventory to find status curatives instead of just using the cure skill. It's also default sorted to group similar effects together instead of just being a random pile of junk like a Skyrim. All-around well designed game for me to actually use my poo poo.
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Red Minjo posted:SMT/Persona are basically the only series where I will consistently use items, because dealing proper elemental damage is more than just an extra bit of damage, it's an extra turn, and that extra turn is also going to be more effective than a normal turn. Pulling out the limited-carry items and nullifying an attack is more than just not having to heal later, taking one of your turns for one of theirs, it can actively rob multiple turns from the enemy. The SP economy is also tuned such that I will prefer going into my inventory to find status curatives instead of just using the cure skill. It's also default sorted to group similar effects together instead of just being a random pile of junk like a Skyrim. All-around well designed game for me to actually use my poo poo. Oh hell yeah. They were the key for me to beating the terrible redesign of that stupid loving robot fight in Royal.
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Something cool with Melody of Memory is that it allows you to unlock new levels relatively easily for most of it, only requiring a few missions per world to be done relative to how many levels there are so it's easy enough to get enough to keep progressing without having to go back and grind easy challenges. For the most part. I have unlocked (late game spoilers, as you approach the tunes from Kingdom Hearts 3) part of the map that didn't appear before and THAT requires a relatively enormous number of missions but that seems to be an endgame area, so while I'm going back now it's only to save me grief later. That's fitting for endgame content though, and on brand for Kingdom Hearts.
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Oxxidation posted:I hoarded my grenades in RE4R so that I could shove them in a big sack and throw it at the dual Garradors There arent many encounters in RE4R that I would consider incredibly hard but this is one of them and I did the same because gently caress this room.
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I hoarded items in Forgotten Realms Baldur's Gate (I'll call it that since you fuckos keep calling Torment Planescape Torment) and... all those items came in very handy in the final board.
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This feels very cynical to me, but an optional gay scene for a video game protagonist who had never had a fully fledged romantic bit before is progress, I suppose.
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Oh huh, that's how I find out the DLC is already out. I guess that's not the most surprising path for the character, although I liked her steadfast obliviousness to flirtation before.
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Cythereal posted:This feels very cynical to me, but an optional gay scene for a video game protagonist who had never had a fully fledged romantic bit before is progress, I suppose. I only just started the DLC last night, but you can tell at the start that Alloy acts different with Seyka. Although I did always like Alloy's weapons grade denseness whenever anyone flirted with her previously.
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One emergent stereotype seems to be that if the woman is badass she's gonna be gay but the man usually isn't. Like where are the badass mother main characters / killer mansluts? Also physically strong women with average-to-no muscle mass, or the muscle being entirely in the butt. Also short hair on a woman = gay.
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I really loving loved the way the two queer girls were portrayed in Dragon Quest Heroes. Throughout the game they're constantly flirting with each other, alluding to various things, and it's all very sweet. They never outright kiss or say they're queer, but every single scene they're in drips with it. People who have played previous games in the series suggest they're not queer, though, because every really obvious queer nuance is actually a weird rear end nuance that they're both in love with the same guy who has to choose one of them, typical het hero man fantasy bullshit but if you ignore them and have not played those games, these are the queerest characters I've ever seen who were not made up of queer stereotypes. credburn has a new favorite as of 20:58 on Apr 20, 2023 |
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Which two girls are you referring to? ...wait, do you mean Bianca and Nera? Huh, so that's who they ended up with after I chose Debora.
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Vic posted:One emergent stereotype seems to be that if the woman is badass she's gonna be gay but the man usually isn't. Like where are the badass mother main characters / killer mansluts? Also physically strong women with average-to-no muscle mass, or the muscle being entirely in the butt. Also short hair on a woman = gay. ...You don't play video games with female protagonists much, do you? Gay women protagonists are still almost exclusively a Bioware phenomenon, and less often an Ubisoft one lately (Kassandra from AC: Odyssey gets married to a dude and has kids no matter what you do). Games where you can choose the gender of your protagonist, and almost all romances in those games are bisexual and identical for both genders. To a lesser extent other modern RPGs like the Pathfinder games. This is honestly the first time I think I've seen a modern non-indie game with a female protagonist (and no option to play a dude) has that protagonist be gay. And it's still optional so you can have your precious straight woman.
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Cythereal posted:...You don't play video games with female protagonists much, do you? Ellie from The Last Of Us is very gay.
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ImpAtom posted:Ellie from The Last Of Us is very gay. Ah, yes, sorry, I forgot 'Everything Sucks and Everyone Is Awful: The Game.' Fair enough, my bad.
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I don't think too many people are especially surprised because the first two games did a lot to suggest that Aloy was somewhere in the LGBTQIA+ umbrella. And having your character voiced by Ashly Burch already means there's like a 90% probability of being gay.
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Cythereal posted:...You don't play video games with female protagonists much, do you? I was hoping we didn't have to go into internety passive aggressive accusatory nonsense over this. I didn't specify videogames either. What I meant is I really wanna see more stuff like the Last Of Us tv series thing. Not soulless, market researched, commitee approved, trending, pandering, sanitized, cis-male-gazey stuff. I realize I might be nitpicking but honestly the poo poo I'm seeing is very naive. Girl kissed a girl big deal.
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Vic posted:I was hoping we didn't have to go into internety passive aggressive accusatory nonsense over this. I didn't specify videogames either. What I meant is I really wanna see more stuff like the Last Of Us tv series thing. Not soulless, market researched, commitee approved, trending, pandering, sanitized, cis-male-gazey stuff. Diversity should be more than ticking boxes but unfortunately that's all it ever will be for most developers because anything beyond that requires actual empathy and when they're doing it for headlines and praise it turns it into a mercenary act.
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I don't know that anyone here took part in it, but I will admit I was very bugged by the apparent Bayonetta 3 "Discourse" (that Bayonetta is no longer queer because she gets with a dude), as if bi women don't exist. However, I absolutely need to see more of "bi woman ends up with woman, please!
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My interpretation of Aloy works with her being strictly gay because there was a bit where the one Emperor guy hits on her and I picked an option that ended up having her shut it down in a really aggressive way. I truly felt seen by whoever wrote it.
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BurningBeard posted:Diversity should be more than ticking boxes but unfortunately that's all it ever will be for most developers because anything beyond that requires actual empathy and when they're doing it for headlines and praise it turns it into a mercenary act. And yet, I'll take being pandered to over being ignored and not represented.
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Shiroc posted:My interpretation of Aloy works with her being strictly gay because there was a bit where the one Emperor guy hits on her and I picked an option that ended up having her shut it down in a really aggressive way. I truly felt seen by whoever wrote it. Honestly with the first game at least I thought she might be asexual; I suppose "gay but mostly the only person of your gender around all the time" could look like that.
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Read After Burning posted:I don't know that anyone here took part in it, but I will admit I was very bugged by the apparent Bayonetta 3 "Discourse" (that Bayonetta is no longer queer because she gets with a dude), as if bi women don't exist. No don't you know if a bi person picks a gender to get with that means they can't be bi anymore and they were probably just doing it for attention anyway I know you know this is utter baloney
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