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If you didn’t blow your legs off during the training and crouch walk to the exit you aren’t a real Deus Ex player
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# ? Apr 19, 2023 05:51 |
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# ? Jun 1, 2024 04:42 |
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Big brained 11 year old me loved Liberty Island
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# ? Apr 19, 2023 09:57 |
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Throwbacks to "I can't get on the boat!"
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# ? Apr 19, 2023 10:10 |
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Vic posted:But that's exactly what the DX demo is, and 14 year old me played the poo poo out of it. I can't think of a better introduction to a game too. The terrorist leader in the Statue of Liberty which you see at all times. The NSF are spaced out far enough you can just shoot everyone in the head without a supressor. It's the perfect playground and bouncing off it means bouncing off the game's mechanics. Not just that, but my brother and I were amazed back in the day with the DX demo, that when you went to UNATCO HQ after Liberty Island for debriefing that it was just a big level with no combat where you just explored and talked to people etc. We figured that shortly after you set foot in UNATCO HQ that it'd immediately get overrun with NSF and you'd have to fight your way out just because that was our expectation of what a level in an FPS or action game would always do. Not that we hadn't played plenty of top-down RPGs with friendly towns and such but it was unheard of to us to see in an FPS. Maybe even more than Liberty Island, it might have been our indication that Deus Ex was something different than a typical FPS. I guess you do eventually fight it out of UNATCO as a combat based level, but there's still plenty of locations in the game where you never do.
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# ? Apr 19, 2023 10:33 |
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Every Deus Ex level is a combat level if you believe in your GEP gun.
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# ? Apr 19, 2023 10:36 |
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Grand Fromage posted:Every Deus Ex level is a combat level if you believe in your GEP gun. Sometimes you have to make a silent takedown
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# ? Apr 19, 2023 11:59 |
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sebmojo posted:Sometimes you have to make a silent takedown Of Manderley.
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# ? Apr 19, 2023 14:48 |
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brap posted:If you didn’t blow your legs off during the training and crouch walk to the exit you aren’t a real Deus Ex player Literally me though in my case I think it was having my legs machine-gunned, Cotton Hill style, by the security bot.
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# ? Apr 19, 2023 15:30 |
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Angry_Ed posted:Literally me though in my case I think it was having my legs machine-gunned, Cotton Hill style, by the security bot. (same)
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# ? Apr 19, 2023 17:24 |
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the naval shipyard is a much, much shorter level when you have your buds let you in and then kill everyone else
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# ? Apr 21, 2023 02:10 |
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And for some reason they're Chinese? I never got that, did they just want to reuse assets from the Hong Kong levels?
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# ? Apr 21, 2023 03:15 |
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Outpost22 posted:And for some reason they're Chinese? I never got that, did they just want to reuse assets from the Hong Kong levels? The ship came from Hong Kong, right?
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# ? Apr 21, 2023 07:28 |
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The dock workers/us navy are american, and the crew of the chinese super frieghter are chinese. It's a whole plot point about FEMA taking control of the shipyard because a chinese ship with "pesticides" came in which the us navy guys call bullshit on. And you know Vinnie and he's cool. e: Also "chinese for some reason" lol you just destroyed a giant plague printer in China, how did you miss that you're now scuttling a tanker full of aids? Vic fucked around with this message at 08:08 on Apr 21, 2023 |
# ? Apr 21, 2023 07:59 |
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It's neat seeing things that would be eye-rolls in a worse game pass because everything else is up to snuff. The game is very good about maintaining verisimilitude, so you don't care when you get to the shipyard and everyone is armed with a LAM to make sure you can sink the tanker.
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# ? Apr 23, 2023 01:18 |
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Cheston posted:It's neat seeing things that would be eye-rolls in a worse game pass because everything else is up to snuff. The game is very good about maintaining verisimilitude, so you don't care when you get to the shipyard and everyone is armed with a LAM to make sure you can sink the tanker. I refuse to believe there isn't a datacube on the supertanker, justifying every soldier carrying one.
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# ? Apr 23, 2023 03:30 |
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lol at all the wine on the ground in Paris. no improvements necessary, 5/5, perfect use of their assetsZibraltar posted:I refuse to believe there isn't a datacube on the supertanker, justifying every soldier carrying one. If there's a playthrough where I wouldn't notice, it's this one.
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# ? Apr 23, 2023 05:00 |
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The PRCS Wallcloud is so much fun once you know how abundant the explosives are though. LAW on a single guy? Why not! They give you so much boom to make sure you can't fail, might as well do it!
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# ? Apr 23, 2023 07:14 |
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One day I'll do a only on-site procurement run. Or at least start to but then end up going back to hoarding everything per usual.
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# ? Apr 23, 2023 15:21 |
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Starting up another playthrough with Biomod. I always end up going non-lethal for the first half of the game... I want to try going heavy with flamethrowers and rockets for everyone in the early game one of these days but I always feel bad about brutally pwning the low-level grunts.
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# ? Apr 25, 2023 02:50 |
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The Paris catacombs feel like a Human Revolution level.
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# ? Apr 25, 2023 03:38 |
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Ever see the video where they just skip everything from the top of the tower by riding a lam down to the bottom.
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# ? Apr 25, 2023 06:59 |
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Wait, do you have to crouch to stop being on fire? I did some cool sword poo poo and a guy caught me on fire and it was still going two medkits later so I tried stop, drop 'n roll and it worked??
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# ? Apr 25, 2023 08:35 |
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So I think I am at the end of the game now in MD and one part made me laugh quite a lot You are talking to the fake security guards in Brown's tower and everyone is playing it cool despite that there is a huge amount of blood directly behind him. I thought the writing in this game was O.K., but this was just too silly to not laugh at.
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# ? Apr 25, 2023 13:48 |
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Cheston posted:Wait, do you have to crouch to stop being on fire? I did some cool sword poo poo and a guy caught me on fire and it was still going two medkits later so I tried stop, drop 'n roll and it worked?? You could also use a fire extinguisher from your inventory. That's not meant to be condescending, it just didn't occur to me for awhile that flamethrower enemies tend to be placed near fire extinguishers.
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# ? Apr 26, 2023 17:14 |
Captain Walker posted:You could also use a fire extinguisher from your inventory. That's not meant to be condescending, it just didn't occur to me for awhile that flamethrower enemies tend to be placed near fire extinguishers. I’ve played this game a ton and had no idea you could use those.
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# ? Apr 26, 2023 17:25 |
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Mr E posted:I’ve played this game a ton and had no idea you could use those. They can also briefly stun foes and disable laser tripwires.
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# ? Apr 26, 2023 17:29 |
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I'm experiencing really bad stuttering whenever I explode multiple things simultaneously. The game basically freezes for 2 to 3 seconds. I'm using Kentie's DX launcher and Biomod, and have tried every combination of the DX10 renderer, OpenGL, Software, borderless fullscreen, regular fullscreen, capping the FPS to 60 both in the launcher and in the Nvidia Control Panel, taking the resolution all the way down to 720p, and toggling "use single cpu". Nothing has worked. I'm on a very powerful PC and this is obviously quite an old game, does anyone have a fix? Is it just an engine thing when too many gibs have to be drawn? The game runs flawlessly otherwise, it's just a shame to have everything seize up if I decide to get buck with the GEP gun.
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# ? Apr 26, 2023 19:03 |
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Try installing HDTP?
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# ? Apr 27, 2023 04:47 |
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Alteratively, see if you can load your save in a totally unmodded game (Steam or otherwise). I'm trying to recall if the game 'hitched' during big explosions back in the day and honestly can't remember.
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# ? Apr 27, 2023 05:25 |
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sometimes it hitches for maybe a couple frames on large explosions, but not multiple seconds
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# ? Apr 27, 2023 06:26 |
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Big Bizness posted:I'm experiencing really bad stuttering whenever I explode multiple things simultaneously. The game basically freezes for 2 to 3 seconds. I'm using Kentie's DX launcher and Biomod, and have tried every combination of the DX10 renderer, OpenGL, Software, borderless fullscreen, regular fullscreen, capping the FPS to 60 both in the launcher and in the Nvidia Control Panel, taking the resolution all the way down to 720p, and toggling "use single cpu". Nothing has worked. I'm on a very powerful PC and this is obviously quite an old game, does anyone have a fix? Is it just an engine thing when too many gibs have to be drawn? The game runs flawlessly otherwise, it's just a shame to have everything seize up if I decide to get buck with the GEP gun. I hade stuttering issues (not during explosions though) and fixed it by: Setting max FPS on driver level to 120 or 144 (use your monitor's refresh rate) and editig DeusEx.ini (there's a link to it in the Kentie launcher window) FPSLimit=0 fixed it for me. And when you say you have a new PC, isn't your CPU one of those with low power helper cores? Older games will have a problem with this so you have to run them on priority ones manually.
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# ? Apr 27, 2023 10:32 |
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Serephina posted:Alteratively, see if you can load your save in a totally unmodded game (Steam or otherwise). I'm trying to recall if the game 'hitched' during big explosions back in the day and honestly can't remember. Yes, unfortunately it turned out to be something to do with Biomod. I installed a fresh copy with just the Kentie launcher and DX10 renderer. I couldn't load my Biomod save so I used console commands to get me to the Hong Kong market and spawn a GEP gun. I exploded the butcher shop guy and his meat and it didn't lag at all. I made a new save file here (pre-explosion). I then reinstalled Biomod and loaded both that new save as well as my prior one. Both had the bad hitching again. There didn't seem to be any more visual effects or gibs in Biomod. IDK. Kind of a bummer but not a huge deal.
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# ? Apr 28, 2023 03:54 |
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Scholtz posted:Try installing HDTP? Update: To make a long story short, after doing some testing, the issue is specifically that Shifter (which Biomod is based on) has some additional code that looks for two specific files when gibs spawn that HDTP installs, and when it can't find them after several attempts, it then loads the vanilla graphical effects and that's what causes the hitching. The files in question are HDTPanim.utx in the Textures folder and HDTPItems.u in the System Folder. I want to use the original weapon models but these overwrite those as well as certain world objects. So pick your poison, I guess. Big Bizness fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Apr 28, 2023 |
# ? Apr 28, 2023 05:51 |
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The section "HDTP SUPPORT" here might help? It's for Shifter not Biomod but maybe it can point you in the right direction https://github.com/TheLonerD/shifterdx/tree/master/DeusEx
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# ? Apr 28, 2023 12:49 |
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Scholtz posted:The section "HDTP SUPPORT" here might help? It's for Shifter not Biomod but maybe it can point you in the right direction I appreciate you linking that, but I actually already tried adding those lines to the .ini files and it didn't work. Biomod must have changed the way those aspects are handled for whatever reason.
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# ? Apr 28, 2023 17:40 |
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SITUATION: I want to play LDDP combined with Shifter or at least with some of the fixes from the Community Update. PROBLEM: Not only are the Revision maps dogshit, but for whatever reason Revision's renderer kills performance when lots of effects are nearby (TNM title screen) or in areas with long sight lines (like Liberty Island). SOLUTION: Ask internet for help. What is your wisdom, Internet?
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# ? Apr 30, 2023 18:12 |
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just don't use revision?
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# ? Apr 30, 2023 18:20 |
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site posted:just don't use revision? Good advice in general, but I'm having trouble with getting LDDP to play nice with Shifter and Kentie's launcher. Just loading LDDP through Kentie's results in mismatched voices; the text for Alex's first infolink call is the same, but he talks about "the NSF have set up patchwork security systems here". Shifter does not work at all, whether loaded before or after LDDP.
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# ? Apr 30, 2023 20:30 |
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At the very least, these days I think you can just toggle the redone maps to off in Revision, so you can still run LDDP through it without the revision maps if you've gotta.
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# ? Apr 30, 2023 23:55 |
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# ? Jun 1, 2024 04:42 |
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Mischievous Mink posted:At the very least, these days I think you can just toggle the redone maps to off in Revision, so you can still run LDDP through it without the revision maps if you've gotta. They're the unfixed vanilla maps, iirc, without music in Hell's Kitchen 3 or logic fixes to prevent the game from thinking you went on an Anna Navarre killing spree in Battery Park. Also, no LDDP NPCs, which is a non-starter. Give me Liam or give me death.
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