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CainFortea posted:Okay, sure, but all of that is very well established in that episode. Argh, just made myself sad by imagining Star Trek Generations and Picard in the Nexus is just back to being Kamin, because he was happy there.
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Picard spoilers but classic trek interest: Some nice HD 360 panoramas of the recreated D bridge here http://prmntpl.us/EnterpriseD360
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Der Kyhe posted:But yeah no, we get that "Starfleet academy show" that has been the lazy option since Roddenberry Honestly I'm fine with "Starfleet Academy", I'm just deeply opposed to it being "Kirk and Spock at Starfleet Academy" They want to put it in the 32nd century? Okay cool
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V-Men posted:I could also see adapting Roddenberry's Earth Final Conflict idea to one that follows a Starfleet diplomatic team, newly arrived on a planet that just joined the Federation and having to convince the various people that they're only here to help.
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Nessus posted:This actually would be pretty interesting and I think you could rig it well, especially if the planet joined the Federation under somewhat weird circumstances and the ship that is hosting/is detailed to support the diplomatic mission can do some runabout-style near-space exploration business. For some reason I'm imagining an adjacent nebula and the big season 2 finale twist is that they've successfully bought off Niven and thrown Pournelle in a vapor lock, and it's now The Mote in God's Eye, but with Starfleet. Pournelle's dead, so no need to worry about him any more anyway.
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MikeJF posted:Picard spoilers but classic trek interest: Some nice HD 360 panoramas of the recreated D bridge here http://prmntpl.us/EnterpriseD360 this is cool, it shows just how much space there is on a bridge. having been on a kinda-sorta replica the chairs are surprisngly far away, there's a lot of empty space everywhere, and the bridge monitors are way further back than it seems, etc.
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Future Trek series talk: maybe what is best for Trek is if the show / franchise dies again? At least until it is taken out of the hands of the current producers because seriously
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jeeves posted:Future Trek series talk: maybe what is best for Trek is if the show / franchise dies again?
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MikeJF posted:Picard spoilers but classic trek interest: Some nice HD 360 panoramas of the recreated D bridge here http://prmntpl.us/EnterpriseD360 
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That was the only original part used, actually, they got it out of the archives
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jeeves posted:Future Trek series talk: maybe what is best for Trek is if the show / franchise dies again? Nah, gently caress this line of thinking. Things don’t get better just because they stop getting made.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Nah, gently caress this line of thinking. Things don’t get better just because they stop getting made. They also don't get better if they keep being made by essentially the same clique of well connected failchildren. My thinking is that Star Trek (and a lot of other things) needs to become public domain at this point.
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Tighclops posted:They also don't get better if they keep being made by essentially the same clique of well connected failchildren. My thinking is that Star Trek (and a lot of other things) needs to become public domain at this point. I would certainly agree with new blood
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Tighclops posted:They also don't get better if they keep being made by essentially the same clique of well connected failchildren. My thinking is that Star Trek (and a lot of other things) needs to become public domain at this point. Somewhere, Alec Peters just heard the old-timey cash register sound and sat up excitedly.
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Nessus posted:Lower Decks, SNW and Prodigy are all OK though? So we're looking at a 60% success rate If you conveniently ignore the three good shows out of the four currently running, then suddenly “nuTrek” is a massive failure that should be killed altogether and
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Big Mean Jerk posted:If you conveniently ignore the three good shows out of the four currently running, then suddenly “nuTrek” is a massive failure that should be killed altogether and
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Somewhere, Alec Peters just heard the old-timey cash register sound and sat up excitedly. He's a massive rear end in a top hat, but his dumb self absorbed fanservicey crap is exactly the kind of thing that gets "officially made" by Terry and Paramount now so gently caress it, everybody should be allowed to bash their Playmates action figures together for all to see. There are many people posting in these threads that could come up with better stories. I mean within a decade AI will probably be able to generate whole rear end episodes of Star Trek so it's coming anyway.
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Nessus posted:Granted that only SNW is in the same basic/core format as TOS and the 90s shows, but on the other hand, who gives a poo poo? TAS is canon. In fact, TAS is *more* canon than anything else. I mean, both animated shows do the 'go to a planet/weird space thing, wackiness ensues' fairly regularly.
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LividLiquid posted:Strange New Worlds kicks rear end so far, so it and Prodigy can stay. Yeah but I am 1000% sure any accidentally decent* Nu-Trek will go the way of S1 Mandalorian and be just ground down into bullshit. *decent in comparison to Picard or Discovery, but still bottom tier of anything previous.
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Anything good is just an accident so that my broad generalizations can still be valid!
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jeeves posted:Yeah but I am 1000% sure any accidentally decent* Nu-Trek will go the way of S1 Mandalorian and be just ground down into bullshit. You might be right about SNW. LD has had 3 seasons so far and is still great. Prodigy technically has only had one season but it was broken up so it was really like two seasons, and it has been pretty good the whole way through.
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Der Kyhe posted:He also now keeps the portal door locked so that random people can no longer just waltz in.
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I hate the Enterprise intro so much but at this point I let it play half the time and sing it "I've got (I've got, I've got)"
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knox posted:I hate the Enterprise intro so much but at this point I let it play half the time and sing it "I've got (I've got, I've got)" 
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knox posted:I hate the Enterprise intro so much but at this point I let it play half the time and sing it "I've got (I've got, I've got)" It took a while but I think I finally found a weird-rear end music choice that beats Faith of the Heart and it's in the end credits of the live-action Space Battleship Yamato of all things https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xczrZlE7dMw I very nearly fell out of my chair when I realized what they were dropping on me
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I always forget that Timescape turns into an “aliens put their babies in the wrong place” episode no matter how many times I watch it. The imagery is so incredible but goddamn that ending is a waste.
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Are there any serious (as in not explicitly comedy or for kids) sci-fi/fantasy that is not terribly written with world ending stakes? The real issue is that everyone is too focused on plot twists and effects and no one cares about characters and stories. The setting is less important, it's about what you do with it.
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BonHair posted:Are there any serious (as in not explicitly comedy or for kids) sci-fi/fantasy that is not terribly written with world ending stakes? The real issue is that everyone is too focused on plot twists and effects and no one cares about characters and stories. The setting is less important, it's about what you do with it. The name of the place, is Babylon 5.
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Delsaber posted:It took a while but I think I finally found a weird-rear end music choice that beats Faith of the Heart and it's in the end credits of the live-action Space Battleship Yamato of all things 
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knox posted:I hate the Enterprise intro so much but at this point I let it play half the time and sing it "I've got (I've got, I've got)" I internally and sometimes externally sing the first few lyrics every time a cold open fades out on any TV show, but usually any Star Trek. It's an earworm, even if I hate it.
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i like coming up with alternate lyrics to faith of the heart it's not a long chode won't get from there to here it's the wrong time get that away from my ear etc. makes it more palatable lol
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Random Sunday thought: Leonard Rosenman's score for The Voyage Home is the most bubbly, whirlwind adventure fare that is unlike anything in Star Trek before it... and it totally works for the tone of The Voyage Home. It has become one of the scores I find the most memorable. However, it would have been undoubtedly amazing to hear how James Horner would have iterated on his scores from Wrath of Khan and Search for Spock to complete the trilogy. Penitent fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Apr 23, 2023 |
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Penitent posted:Random Sunday thought: Leonard Rosenman's score for The Voyage Home is the most bubbly, whirlwind adventure fare that is unlike anything in Star Trek before it... and it totally works for the tone of The Voyage Home. It has become one of the scores I find the most memorable. He reiterated by doing the score for Aliens.
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Knormal posted:Quite the interesting comment section on that video. The original animated series and the 2008 live action movie have a strong streak of nationalism. The series started with a historical retrospective on the history of the Yamato, including a paean to her final, suicidal mission. The live action movie... that one commentor is wrong, she didn't go out like a samurai, she went out like a kamikaze. The voiceover for her sacrifice was straight out of the Special Attack Corps' litany before a mission. The Yamato 2199 remake loses that and makes it much more about all of Earth. They have a power shortage at launch, and all of Earth shunts their grids to help jumpstart the Yamato, making it a win for all of us. 2199 is a really good show. It has a well-developed set of characters on both sides of the conflict, and much more "human" interest going on, besides just the amazing space battles and mechanical design. In the sequels series, 2202, we get a big dose of the classic Yamato mysticism that really came out in the movies, and it works really well. Highly recommended.
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