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ColdPie posted:I feel like Microsoft is going to own the announcement because it's coming to Game Pass at launch, but dunno. While I think that exclusivity deals are bullshit as a concept, it's this and I'm glad it was Xbox.
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Apr 18, 2023 22:36
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It isn't exclusive, it got announced for other platforms.
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Apr 18, 2023 22:40
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Yeah, the likely biggest reason for the delay (aside from them being a three-man team and not needing to kill themselves crunching this time) is that it's launching on everything simultaneously
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Apr 18, 2023 22:41
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Feels Villeneuve posted:It isn't exclusive, it got announced for other platforms. I'm obviously talking specifically about the announcement rights, but I mentioned Xbox so, uh, of course that happened.
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Apr 18, 2023 23:15
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It's not gonna be mentioned in the Nintendo showcase. but it will come out tomorrow
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Apr 19, 2023 01:07
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even if silksong never happens I think I'm suddenly satisfied
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Apr 19, 2023 02:42
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milksong
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Apr 19, 2023 03:31
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*sigh* bapanada
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Apr 19, 2023 17:22
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Blasphemous 2!
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Apr 19, 2023 17:25
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blasphenada
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Apr 19, 2023 17:30
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I know that Silksong won't be in these but watch them anyway. If it'll show up at all it'll be in a Microsoft press conference, I know this, and yet I allow myself the folly of hope. In short, bapanada.
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Apr 19, 2023 17:33
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Oxxidation posted:blasphenada
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Apr 19, 2023 17:35
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Quantum of Phallus posted:here's to many more years of it not coming out
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Bapa? Nada.
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This is the best thing ever. It is better than silksong. please post more of this things.
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Apr 20, 2023 00:51
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I played Dust: An Elysian Tail about 10 years ago on the 360. I barely remember it other than I think it was a metroidvania. I looked at my Series X and apparently it is not available. But it is on the switch and the PS. I find that odd because I remember it coming out on the 360 first and now Xbox doesn't even have it. Anyway, is it good?
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Apr 21, 2023 16:35
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It's pretty decent. One of the great flag bearers for Xbox Live Arcade back in the day. Definitely more vania than metroid but it's got the goods. Beautifully animated for a one man show. Writing is basic but earnest. Tone might be hit or miss. Combat is fun as poo poo and there are a good range of approaches.
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Apr 21, 2023 16:51
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Monster Boy is a similar metroidvania and I will always recommend it because no one has played it and it fuckin rips
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Apr 21, 2023 16:57
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I tried Ori and the Blind Forest, and it struck a lot of the same notes that Hollow Knight does. Ori is gorgeous like HK, but I feel like exploration abilities unlock too quickly to give you a real progress feeling like HK does. I also feel like the controls were a bit more floaty, and not as precise as HK. So much like how  became the standard against which I hold up action rpgs, HK is now my high water mark for side scrollers.
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Apr 21, 2023 20:07
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Ori is interesting because it's not very combat focused, the combat is pretty simple and untechnical. Most of the abilities in the game are traversal abilities, and that's where most of the challenge and technical execution is too. Which is fitting since you're a small, frail woodland creature, the game really emphasizes being nimble and agile So yeah it definitely feels more m-vania than Hollow Knight, where most of the progress is behind skill check bossfights, rather than ability unlocks
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Waltzing Along posted:I played Dust: An Elysian Tail about 10 years ago on the 360. I barely remember it other than I think it was a metroidvania. I looked at my Series X and apparently it is not available. But it is on the switch and the PS. I find that odd because I remember it coming out on the 360 first and now Xbox doesn't even have it. Anyway, is it good? It's Very Anime. If you're okay with that, it's pretty fun! Hakkesshu posted:Monster Boy is a similar metroidvania and I will always recommend it because no one has played it and it fuckin rips One of the things that annoy me about the Monster Boy Collections is that they never include Dragon's Curse, the Turbografx-16/PC-Engine version of The Dragon's Trap. Something about the sound chip on that machine just doesn't hold up for me, but I realize that's probably a symptom of me having played the TG-16 version first. Monster Boy is really good!
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Hakkesshu posted:Monster Boy is a similar metroidvania and I will always recommend it because no one has played it and it fuckin rips I played one of these, couldn't be bothered to look up which one and quit pretty early one. It starts off pretty decent, then it turns you into a pig and makes your attacks drastically worse (but hey you can butt stomp on big buttons now!!), then it turns you into a snake and does the same thing. Metroidvanias are supposed to make you stronger as the game goes on and this did the opposite. Such a chore to play.
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Apr 21, 2023 20:43
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played Ender Lillies and it felt very very similar to hollow knight in tone, but like, a little worse along every axis. Which doesn't sound like an endorsement but when you're up against the goat that still means it's pretty good
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Apr 21, 2023 20:46
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Guacamelee did that and it works both as a joke and as a power.
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The Zombie Guy posted:I tried Ori and the Blind Forest, and it struck a lot of the same notes that Hollow Knight does. Ori is gorgeous like HK, but I feel like exploration abilities unlock too quickly to give you a real progress feeling like HK does. I also feel like the controls were a bit more floaty, and not as precise as HK. I actually just started playing Ori and the Blind Forest tonight and after three hours I've been enjoying it a lot. I like how the movement is very quick right off the bat, although it took me a bit to stop overshooting my mark constantly. I would say the level/world design so far doesn't seem as deep or elaborate as HK though, and I wonder how exploratory the game is in that sense, as that was one of things I most loved about HK, just the sheer depth of the rabbit hole and how easy it was to get lost (I imagine getting lost was probably a design goal actually - e.g. falling into Deepnest). Ori seems far more compliant thus far in that respect, which isn't bad of course, just different. But it feels good to play. I agree the upgrades are coming very quickly, though. HK is definitely my standard for this genre which is perhaps slightly unfortunate because nothing has come close. Sway Grunt fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Apr 21, 2023 |
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Both Ori games are pretty good imo, but neither holds a candle to HK. Controls are a bit floaty, environments are very pretty but often a little too visually unclear a lot of the time. OatBF's combat is very basic and it's more traversal-focused, which is kinda cool and unique; OatWotW is more balanced. When you get used to it, the movement is really fun - the "launch off of an enemy/projectile" ability is super cool. They're great one-time experiences, but neither one has the scope and depth of HK.
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If you're reading this thread then you've probably already played it, but Momodora: Reverie under the Moonlight remains my top rec if you've mined out HK and need another fix. Dust is surprisingly good for a game where the MC is the dev's fursona self-insert. It and the Ori games are further on the platforming/combat end of the metroidvania spectrum, but are pretty good at what they do.
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Ceyton posted:If you're reading this thread then you've probably already played it, but Momodora: Reverie under the Moonlight remains my top rec if you've mined out HK and need another fix. The Momodora games are so good. Even the janky pixely ones they made earlier are fun to rock through.
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Books On Tape posted:I played one of these, couldn't be bothered to look up which one and quit pretty early one. It starts off pretty decent, then it turns you into a pig and makes your attacks drastically worse (but hey you can butt stomp on big buttons now!!), then it turns you into a snake and does the same thing. Metroidvanias are supposed to make you stronger as the game goes on and this did the opposite. Such a chore to play. You're meant to change beast forms as appropriate for the situation. The traversal forms aren't meant for combat. The combat forms are meant for combat. The really good combat forms come later on in those games. Initially you can't freely change forms, IIRC.
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Loved the Ori games, super charming and a lot of fun to play.... but yeah, they're not as good as Hollow Knight. That's not an indictment on them, Hollow Knight is really loving great! So in my opinion.... I think they should release Silksong!
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if we're in the general phase of "metroidvanias that are cool while we wait for silksong," I'll recommend Environment Station Alpha. It's by Hempuli, aka the goon who also created Baba Is You. It has a very cool sense of exploration, and while its endgame puzzles go pretty far in the wacky direction it was a great example of a game where I was constantly surprised and thrilled by how the upgrades changed the way I moved through its world and stuff. Also it is only $8 on steam
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Martman posted:if we're in the general phase of "metroidvanias that are cool while we wait for silksong," Tunic. Isometric action not side-scroller, but strong HK energy. Similar mix of cutesy cartoon and apocalyptically bleak
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skasion posted:Tunic. No
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I so badly wish tunic had combat I liked because I love everything else about it you can basically turn it off but this is one of those cases where being able to turn the combat off is a bad sign
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Tunic is a Zelda-like with terrible Dark Soulish combat where the big gimmick is you don't learn how to play because the manual is the goal of the game. You get pages slowly doled out to you as you go that explain how you could have done something 3 hours ago if only you knew that pushing this button makes thing happen. It's a bad game.
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I tried Tunic twice, but I don't play games a whole lot, so both times I took like a two week break and then come back and had zero idea where to go and it wasn't fun enough to just wander around.
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