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Why do people care at all what Vegas thinks? The odds aren't meant to reflect real decisions, they're meant to incentivize bets.
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That is the perfect picture to accompany that
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# ? Apr 22, 2023 21:02 |
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Woozie66 posted:Why do people care at all what Vegas thinks? The odds aren't meant to reflect real decisions, they're meant to incentivize bets.
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# ? Apr 22, 2023 21:08 |
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What the gently caress
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# ? Apr 22, 2023 21:10 |
Sataere posted:I think he was so obsessed with being great that he would have been. I'm of the school of thought that the guys who end up good get their because they work harder than everyone else. Probably but if Rodgers had come in year 1 and stunk up the joint he likely wouldn't have been given enough time to fix himself into what he would/could become before being shipped out of the league.
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# ? Apr 22, 2023 21:19 |
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SKULL.GIF posted:Probably but if Rodgers had come in year 1 and stunk up the joint he likely wouldn't have been given enough time to fix himself into what he would/could become before being shipped out of the league. First rounder would have gotten minimum of two years. Probably three. Teams don't believe in sunk cost fallacy
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# ? Apr 22, 2023 21:19 |
Sataere posted:First rounder would have gotten minimum of two years. Probably three. Teams don't believe in sunk cost fallacy Well, I think it's also a lot easier to fix poo poo when you're on the bench and all you can really do is refine your mechanics and learn the system. If you're starting every week, you're not worrying about proper throwing mechanics, you're worrying about trying to win the game, any game.
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# ? Apr 22, 2023 21:25 |
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SKULL.GIF posted:Well, I think it's also a lot easier to fix poo poo when you're on the bench and all you can really do is refine your mechanics and learn the system. If you're starting every week, you're not worrying about proper throwing mechanics, you're worrying about trying to win the game, any game. I think most mechanical changes happen in the offseason. Rodgers still was the back up. He has to work on the game plan behind Favre in case something happens.
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# ? Apr 22, 2023 21:35 |
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Sataere posted:I think he was so obsessed with being great that he would have been. I'm of the school of thought that the guys who end up good get their because they work harder than everyone else. Which is why I don't want Carter on the hawks
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# ? Apr 22, 2023 21:36 |
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JT Jag posted:When there's major, abrupt, quickly-solidifying odds-changes, that very frequently is the result of some professional gamblers/bookies with team sources going in before anyone else can. Vegas Knows Sure. That's true some times. But sometimes that shift is artificial, as evidenced by all the other times Vegas "knew" and it didn't pan out. Edit: I remember a huge shift in favor of Darnold the week before the Browns took Baker first, for example. Woozie66 fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Apr 22, 2023 |
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I mean, Vegas and as importantly the sharps are not in the business of losing money. You can say Vegas is wrong sometimes and sure, that's true. But they're probably gonna be right more often than you are when weird top heavy moves that don't make sense pop up.
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# ? Apr 22, 2023 21:49 |
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Not that I'm saying Levis is going second because that's just crazy right? Right?
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# ? Apr 22, 2023 21:51 |
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I suspect the lines are moving because of the rumor shifts and adjusting to how people are betting accordingly to ensure that they still come out ahead.
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# ? Apr 22, 2023 21:52 |
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Grittybeard posted:Not that I'm saying Levis is going second because that's just crazy right? Right? I once watched the Chicago Bears move up one spot with the Niners to draft Mitchell Trubisky at 2. Is anything truly crazy?
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# ? Apr 22, 2023 21:58 |
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Gonz posted:I once watched the Chicago Bears move up one spot with the Niners to draft Mitchell Trubisky at 2.
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# ? Apr 22, 2023 22:41 |
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JT Jag posted:When there's major, abrupt, quickly-solidifying odds-changes, that very frequently is the result of some professional gamblers/bookies with team sources going in before anyone else can. Vegas Knows On top of that the odds changing happens with a significant minute gap between those at the Vegas parlor when it happens and when people see the tweet. It's not much but the process of someone screen shotting it and it becoming trending on twitter is long enough that people who sit in those parlors all day can get good odds.
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# ? Apr 22, 2023 22:42 |
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Didnt they pay two third round picks for the pleasure of doing so, too? Two thirds and a fourth!
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# ? Apr 22, 2023 22:51 |
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SKULL.GIF posted:Draft fast TEs. Well that has me feeling a bit better about the Cowboys possibly drafting Washington or LaPorta if Kincaid and Mayer are both gone by 26.
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Gonz posted:Two thirds and a fourth!
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# ? Apr 22, 2023 23:44 |
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Oh no I sure hope the Texans don't draft Levis and leave the Colts with Stroud. That would be so terrible
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# ? Apr 22, 2023 23:46 |
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If Levis can figure out his timing issues it's not drastically bad if some team takes him over Stroud. His arm is pretty strong and he's capable of running if you go off his 2021 tape.
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# ? Apr 22, 2023 23:50 |
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This, but with a bunch of poorly taxidermied dogs with goofy facial expressions.
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# ? Apr 22, 2023 23:54 |
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Doltos posted:If Levis can figure out his timing issues it's not drastically bad if some team takes him over Stroud. His arm is pretty strong and he's capable of running if you go off his 2021 tape. What does Levis do that Stroud doesn't do way better
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# ? Apr 22, 2023 23:56 |
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I was going to strongly disagree with your X-ray of Levis with dawgs in him. But according to TheGreyGhost, Levis does in fact have a decent “got that dog in him” score. TheGreyGhost posted:Here comes the single lengthiest post I have ever made here. Some early house rules I still think Stroud is a bit underrated - he’s just so dang good at throwing a ball. Hopefully one of Stroud or Richardson makes it to seattle at 5!!!
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# ? Apr 22, 2023 23:56 |
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https://twitter.com/mattyfbrown/status/1649154354195079168 Are the Seahawks already abandoning the 3-4? It would make Tyree Wilson a better fit for the defense, if nothing else.
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# ? Apr 23, 2023 00:03 |
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:What does Levis do that Stroud doesn't do way better Really just moving outside the pocket and having a slightly stronger arm in game, although Stroud was bombing it at the combine. He has a bit of a catapult launch when he throws it deep so it doesn't quite get there at the same velocity as Levis' baseball style throw. If Young goes first and Levis goes second then I feel that the NFL prefers squirrely QBs over back pedaling ones for pocket movement.
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# ? Apr 23, 2023 00:03 |
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Im honestly enjoying just how much smoke there is at the top of the draft this year. The suspense is terrible, I hope it’ll last
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# ? Apr 23, 2023 00:04 |
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shirts and skins posted:https://twitter.com/mattyfbrown/status/1649154354195079168 What in tarnation is going on with that defense? One of the reasons I haven’t been sold on drafting various defensive players is because I don’t heckin know what Pete is gonna do with that defense!!! I thought we were moving towards an odd front with 3 safeties (with adams as a hybrid lb/s) but who the heck knows! Just give me qb and IOL and we’ll do our best
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# ? Apr 23, 2023 00:05 |
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I think Carrol has kind of shown in the past the scheme doesn't matter too much and he'll tailor it around guys. Seattle have reloaded well in the past, I wouldn't be too concerned.
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BlindSite posted:I think Carrol has kind of shown in the past the scheme doesn't matter too much and he'll tailor it around guys. Seattle have reloaded well in the past, I wouldn't be too concerned. The defense has been bad since 2016.
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# ? Apr 23, 2023 01:05 |
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All I know is the Seahawks better draft Richardson. I wanna see Carroll work some fuckin' magic!
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YOLOsubmarine posted:The defense has been bad since 2016. That's ok, we're about to get Anthony Richardson.
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# ? Apr 23, 2023 02:07 |
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Which of the top TEs do you guys like the most
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# ? Apr 23, 2023 05:28 |
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Kincaid
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# ? Apr 23, 2023 05:28 |
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Also like Kincaid and Mayer. Mayer is like a cross between Mark Andrews and Jason Witten. Kincaid is a speedier, lighter tight end.
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# ? Apr 23, 2023 05:32 |
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Dejan Bimble posted:Which of the top TEs do you guys like the most I love them all in their own special way.
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# ? Apr 23, 2023 05:32 |
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darnell is a lot more likable than those two
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Dejan Bimble posted:Which of the top TEs do you guys like the most The top 7 or 8 of them I want at least two
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Doltos does Kincaid's back issue concern you
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