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DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Xaris posted:

honestly the most impressive thing i've learned is you can convince tens of thousands of degenerate zoomer gambling addicts to drop all their savings/trust fund into propping up a dogshit moribund suburban brick & mortar, literally the dumbest loving moribund B&M store that literally no one likes had more neon signs than las vegas saying it was trash get out now -- all so the rich can flee the escape hatch

and even after they're left holding the bag full of dynamite they say "well... i think they'll come back and go to the moon! lawsuits WILL be FILED if they don't!! also this bag of dynamite might be worth more money than I put in! MOON!

You can't fix stupid but you sure can make money off it. At this point I think its simply a natural law.

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Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

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Tempora Mutantur posted:

ohhh I think I finally understand cybernetic capitalism: finance capital is the borg

:hmmyes:

correct. in 100% sincerity it is basically that.

for example, the socialism movement of the 1930s brought capitalism to the brink, then capital decided to read marx and adopted it to counter socialism thereby crushing labor into smithereens

Xaris has issued a correction as of 06:02 on Apr 25, 2023

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
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DancingShade posted:

You can't fix stupid but you sure can make money off it. At this point I think its simply a natural law.

well you don't make money off stupidity: you make money off alienation and despair

i dont blame 'em that 25% of zoomers are degenerate gamblers

Xaris has issued a correction as of 06:18 on Apr 25, 2023

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

lmfao

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
lol
https://twitter.com/tokenstate/status/1650499345249075215
https://twitter.com/drsxr/status/1650506845973356548

Flavahbeast
Jul 21, 2001


the real killer for cellphone use is the collapse of the gachapon genre

Glumwheels
Jan 25, 2003

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ

Lol but also lol at Portland and Seattle, completely dire for downtown core.

err
Apr 11, 2005

I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...
So the answer is all the workers moved to the suburbs to WFH right?

holefoods
Jan 10, 2022

I started working in downtown Seattle recently, never had before. I’m in a 50 something floor building and it seems mostly vacant. There’s two other companies on our floor and they’re so thinly staffed that I almost never run into anyone not from my company on the elevator or in the bathrooms. Maybe I have warped expectations of how busy a city should be or something since I’ve never worked in the downtown of one the size of Seattle but it doesn’t seem like I should be able to walk to grab lunch from any number of places and be able to be grab food with almost no line typically.

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

err posted:

So the answer is all the workers moved to the suburbs to WFH right?

not about moving. they just wfh now. ppl used to goto work. remember?

Glumwheels
Jan 25, 2003

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ
Amazon is forcing everyone back to the office next month so you’ll probably see a big shift during the week. Nothing to pre-pandemic levels, though.

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
my boss has sent out the "RETURN TO WORK" order 3 times and eveyr time just nobody does it. no reply or anything. its a pretty interestng phenomenon.

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

Smythe posted:

my boss has sent out the "RETURN TO WORK" order 3 times and eveyr time just nobody does it. no reply or anything. its a pretty interestng phenomenon.

no mods no managers

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
as I understand it, a key issue with cellphones and mobile apps is that there's a lack of secure digital distribution, such as Steam for games

that is, any app that's good eventually gets pirated or copied very quickly, such that there's very little opportunity to ever make money from the selling of the app itself

and because of this, developers that want to monetize their apps have to do it either via in-app advertisements, or microtransactions inside the app, since those are things that you can generally restrict

but this in turn morphs the design of the app:
if you make money out of ads, then a mobile game needs to be designed in such a way as to trap the player into getting as addicted as possible to the game to maximize screen time
if you make money out of microtransactions, then a mobile game needs to be designed in such a way that the benefits from microtransactions has to feel mandatory, to entice people to buy into it

essentially, this means that gachapon games are really the only kind of game that can ever really prosper in the mobile space - anyone violating the capitalist-driven principles are deliberately limiting themselves to a much shallower pool of success

mazzi Chart Czar
Sep 24, 2005

err posted:

So the answer is all the workers moved to the suburbs to WFH right?

yeah a lot of people are doing work from home. But also a lot of people just left major cities and moved to smaller cities.

They probably made that list of the most populated places in the usa, and cut it off around 200'000 people (Salt Lake city.)
Bakersfield 400'000, El Paso - 600'000

Medium sized cities, and the suburbs around big cities grew, because people from poor cities, need more security, and people from populated cities wanted more space.

A good amount of American citizens don't want to live near people, and only movie to cities for money.
It's why so many people "from" California move to Texas.

I would post the lyrics to this song, but I don't wanna risk it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUiZHt6sqg4





mazzi Chart Czar has issued a correction as of 07:05 on Apr 25, 2023

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice

Smythe posted:

my boss has sent out the "RETURN TO WORK" order 3 times and eveyr time just nobody does it. no reply or anything. its a pretty interestng phenomenon.

lol yeah it’s awesome

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005
if you dont' want to live near other people you are deeply antisocial and society shouldn't indulge you

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Shipon posted:

if you dont' want to live near other people you are deeply antisocial and society shouldn't indulge you

*seizes native land*

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice

Shipon posted:

if you dont' want to live near other people you are deeply antisocial and society shouldn't indulge you

I agree, it should be illegal to not live in a city.

Lpzie
Nov 20, 2006

working hard, saving up money again. eating as little as possible, very frugal. motivated by the thought that every meal i skip is more money i can dump overseas..... 12 months to go!

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

Xaris posted:

correct. in 100% sincerity it is basically that.

for example, the socialism movement of the 1930s brought capitalism to the brink, then capital decided to read marx and adopted it to counter socialism thereby crushing labor into smithereens

the bourgeoisie got so scared of socialism that they invented the tabernacle and locked themselves in a vortex.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Lpzie posted:

working hard, saving up money again. eating as little as possible, very frugal. motivated by the thought that every meal i skip is more money i can dump overseas..... 12 months to go!

stay hungry, stay foolish

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

https://twitter.com/BusinessInsider/status/1650723436623273984?s=20

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

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Glumwheels posted:

Lol but also lol at Portland and Seattle, completely dire for downtown core.

yeah that's pretty bad. i'm surprised portland is so low, it's not like it had that much fidi core industry and is much more affordable than most major cities in america

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004


a medical doctor with an inflated sense of self-righteousness??? how could this be??

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
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holefoods posted:

I started working in downtown Seattle recently, never had before. I’m in a 50 something floor building and it seems mostly vacant. There’s two other companies on our floor and they’re so thinly staffed that I almost never run into anyone not from my company on the elevator or in the bathrooms. Maybe I have warped expectations of how busy a city should be or something since I’ve never worked in the downtown of one the size of Seattle but it doesn’t seem like I should be able to walk to grab lunch from any number of places and be able to be grab food with almost no line typically.
Yeah that's not normal at all. it should be packed to point of being uncomfortable dodging hordes of people on sidewalks, and having to wait in 30 minute lines for $18 salads at places liked mixed greens

err posted:

So the answer is all the workers moved to the suburbs to WFH right?
eh, no and yes. most "downtown financial district cores" (not sure how they're counting) actually don't have that many people living there relatively to the huge influx of workers or voyeurists that come in and out like the tides. if you've ever been to Venice at day and night, it's like that where it's jam packed during the day but as soon as 9pm hits, everyone recedes and it's a straight up ghost town.

big meme hip cities haven't actually really lost any population.

but yes I think there's still a solid half or more that's wfhing. assuming a hybrid schedule of 2 office-3 wfh, that's effectively a 60% reduction, on average, of workers. which kinda lines up. now some are going to be perma-wfh, some will have none, probably on average it's like 2.5/2.5 split.

Xaris has issued a correction as of 07:49 on Apr 25, 2023

Glumwheels
Jan 25, 2003

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ

quote:

We flipped the first few properties — put a little bit of lipstick on the units and sold them. I call it trading up — you buy, renovate, raise the rents, sell, and then trade up to the next one — the BRRR model in apartments," Moore explained.

These people are the worst.

Xaris posted:

yeah that's pretty bad. i'm surprised portland is so low, it's not like it had that much fidi core industry and is much more affordable than most major cities in america

Portland is really gross now, it’s not enjoyable to be downtown in many parts for the city. The downtown area is mostly dead, even on the weekends.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

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Glumwheels posted:

These people are the worst.

Portland is really gross now, it’s not enjoyable to be downtown in many parts for the city. The downtown area is mostly dead, even on the weekends.
what happened?

but yeah oakland here is somewhat dead even on weekends now. all the really fancy hipster cider n mead bars and irish pubs and fancy korean chicken n waffles places and stuff used to be crackin' to the brim are pretty light or closing up. and it is really only saturday night that can get a real solid turnout but not overwhelming bad. now there's still some slammed pinstagrammy restaurants but it's definitely much much less lively than 2019. some places that were huge hot spots like jack london square or uptown are really eerily quiet these days.

like half the lunch spots in the fidi are like closed up permanently

Xaris has issued a correction as of 07:53 on Apr 25, 2023

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
People tend to not go out as much when the cost of going out is drat near double the cost since 2019.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

FlapYoJacks posted:

People tend to not go out as much when the cost of going out is drat near double the cost since 2019.

yeop

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

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FlapYoJacks posted:

People tend to not go out as much when the cost of going out is drat near double the cost since 2019.

computer touchers molesters and east coast trust fundie transplants have infinite money tho

Glumwheels
Jan 25, 2003

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ

Xaris posted:

what happened?

but yeah oakland here is somewhat dead even on weekends now. all the really fancy hipster cider n mead bars and irish pubs and fancy korean chicken n waffles places and stuff used to be crackin' to the brim are pretty light or closing up. and it is really only saturday night that can get a real solid turnout but not overwhelming bad. now there's still some slammed pinstagrammy restaurants but it's definitely much much less lively than 2019. some places that were huge hot spots like jack london square or uptown are really eerily quiet these days.

like half the lunch spots in the fidi are like closed up permanently

I don’t know, some places closed during pandemic and never re-opened. Recently more have started calling it quits due to inflation and people not going out as much because poo poo is too expensive. Other places closed up shop because downtown is generally not as safe as before. A lot of shops that are still open have security at the doors or they lock the doors and you have to wait to enter/leave. It’s bizarre and not at all like it was pre-pandemic.

The mayor and city council have basically given up and the cops aren’t doing poo poo.

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Glumwheels posted:

I don’t know, some places closed during pandemic and never re-opened. Recently more have started calling it quits due to inflation and people not going out as much because poo poo is too expensive. Other places closed up shop because downtown is generally not as safe as before. A lot of shops that are still open have security at the doors or they lock the doors and you have to wait to enter/leave. It’s bizarre and not at all like it was pre-pandemic.

The mayor and city council have basically given up and the cops aren’t doing poo poo.

they lock the beer cabinet at 7-11 its realy annoying. also deodorant at the target is locked up.

Svensken
May 29, 2010

gradenko_2000 posted:

as I understand it, a key issue with cellphones and mobile apps is that there's a lack of secure digital distribution, such as Steam for games

that is, any app that's good eventually gets pirated or copied very quickly, such that there's very little opportunity to ever make money from the selling of the app itself

and because of this, developers that want to monetize their apps have to do it either via in-app advertisements, or microtransactions inside the app, since those are things that you can generally restrict

but this in turn morphs the design of the app:
if you make money out of ads, then a mobile game needs to be designed in such a way as to trap the player into getting as addicted as possible to the game to maximize screen time
if you make money out of microtransactions, then a mobile game needs to be designed in such a way that the benefits from microtransactions has to feel mandatory, to entice people to buy into it

essentially, this means that gachapon games are really the only kind of game that can ever really prosper in the mobile space - anyone violating the capitalist-driven principles are deliberately limiting themselves to a much shallower pool of success

https://twitter.com/MorsGames/status/1628073943675416578?t=GfVjbuNAmvmb-5ii2bhFvg&s=19

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
I don't play games on my smartphone and have never installed any so :shrug:

I did play snake on my old nokia brick a long time ago. At least once or twice. Didn't like it much. IMO the minimum would be a laptop and mouse, on a DESK. Even a nintendo DS is too drat small and non-ergonomic. Always looking down is bad for the neck.

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

If you shoot
you better hit your mark

Xaris posted:

i think GME was a genuine anomaly that caught rich people off guard and since the institutions just adapted their hft spam bots to open the seo-tier spam flood gates upon gambling degenerates using the right lingo to psych them into MOON and prop up dying bleak corporate b&m poo poo up so they can get out.

Real cyberpunk is so loving dumb

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
I don't play smartphone games either, but mostly because I can't stand touch controls

even when I use my Switch, I usually use the kickstand, prop it up on some books, and use a detached controller

Glumwheels
Jan 25, 2003

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ

Smythe posted:

they lock the beer cabinet at 7-11 its realy annoying. also deodorant at the target is locked up.

I live in an area where this hasn’t happened yet but I don’t even go in Target anymore. Online ordering is usually cheaper than shopping in store, you can get gift cards or discounts for same-day pickup, and they deliver it to your car. I wish they did that at Costco but their business model expects you to go in and spend way more than you intended.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
lol that reminds me that i went to some fedex pickup and my local supermarket and baby formula, alcohol and detergent were all still locked behind the glass

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Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

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Pidgin Englishman posted:

Real cyberpunk is so loving dumb

yea we're getting all the dumb boring papering-over-increasing-capital-contradictions and hyper surveillance stuff to sell us lovely ads, and not cool augmentations and cyber penises. smdh

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