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FuturePastNow posted:Will these e-cores actually be efficient or will they also be juiced to the highest voltage they can handle for a 1% higher Cinebench score? Its mobile only, so prolly not. The Redwood cores tho...
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gently caress Everything, We're Doing Five
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borkencode posted:gently caress Everything, We're Doing Five is that literally not what the point of optane was?
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RIP Optane, killed by falling registered ram prices and dumping memory into fast sequential NAND
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SwissArmyDruid posted:is that literally not what the point of optane was? Anime Schoolgirl posted:RIP Optane, killed by falling registered ram prices and dumping memory into fast sequential NAND So the above notion was simply out of reach for the foreseeable future.
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borkencode posted:gently caress Everything, We're Doing Five cache rules everything around me
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:Nah, Optane wouldn't have achieved its final form until operating systems had been modified to no longer be installed onto a disk and then use the main memory via a VM subsystem. reject modernity, return to javacard  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31D94QOo2gY&t=608s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khgT5dwKvOo Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Apr 24, 2023 |
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Optane was killed by CXL. Once customers had a path to stick commodity DRAM on an non proprietary or platform locked bus to expand memory and get acceptable performance then it was basically over for Optane. The entire endeavor was only financed so that Intel could keep platform locking people into Xeons Yes, you can put Optane on CXL but why would intel care about that
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^^ what timing! haha CXL 3.0 memory pooling solution with multiple hosts sharing memory appliances 
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Optane is still the best for qd1 iops, but I guess that's some nerd stat that normal people don't care about.
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Perplx posted:Optane is still the best for qd1 iops, but I guess that's some nerd stat that normal people don't care about. There are very much power users/companies that actually do low QD workloads but how much do you want to pay for it vs. just buying some NAND SSDs for like a tenth the cost per GB and calling it a day.
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Perplx posted:Optane is still the best for qd1 iops, but I guess that's some nerd stat that normal people don't care about.
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WhyteRyce posted:There are very much power users/companies that actually do low QD workloads but how much do you want to pay for it vs. just buying some NAND SSDs for like a tenth the cost per GB and calling it a day. My ZFS SLOG 
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Looks like it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockscale
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I refuse to put this in my search history but how does that compare to industry standard miner performance?
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I don't really know about comparisons but from the intel press release that was covered by Tom's Hardware: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intels-blockscale-cryptominer-ships-ahead-of-schedule-late-to-the-party quote:Going by the numbers, this ASIC can achieve a hash rate of 580 GH/s, with power consumption between 4.8 and 22.7W, and power efficiency of 26 J/TH. The flip chip LGA package size is a very modest 7.5 x 7mm. There are on-chip sensors for both temperature and voltage to help monitor systems and tune performance. edit: can't find it on the list of miners in the nicehash profitability calculator, seems they were sold to companies making mining asic hardware as standalone units. from: https://www.newsbtc.com/news/bitcoin/intel-ships-blockscale-asic-chips-to-selected-bitcoin-mining-companies/ quote:Intel AXG Custom Compute team is now shipping the Blockscale ASIC! First product will always be unforgettable, congratulations team? So I guess things made by ArgoBlockchain, griiid, and HiveBlockchain used them. Rexxed fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Apr 24, 2023 |
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That was definitely an all time low level of debasement for them, I remember being so god drat embarrassed when the headlines came out that they were making that garbage
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Is there a new embedded fun server board like the Atom 3xxx series that intel makes that could be good for a NAS setup? I haven’t looked at new hardware anytime recently.
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KKKLIP ART posted:Is there a new embedded fun server board like the Atom 3xxx series that intel makes that could be good for a NAS setup? I haven’t looked at new hardware anytime recently.  https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004757954007.html mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Apr 25, 2023 |
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The newest Denverton type SoC replacement is Elkhart lake (atom x6000) if that’s what you’re asking. They’ve been very slow to make it into sales channels and onto interesting boards you can buy though.
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mobby_6kl posted:The Alder Lake-N family has the x7425E but no idea if it's available in any server boards yet. I've seen Tremont-based boards though on Aliexpress: I was looking at these but apparently there are issues with the 225/226 NICs and not a lot of documentation on folks actually using them. That was my top pick but until I know the NIC will work well, I don’t want to drop the money. E: Brian Moses apparently made one from the N5105 motherboard. Don’t see why the N6005 boards won’t work. He used TrueNAS Scale which seems to have more robust hardware support. KKKLIP ART fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Apr 25, 2023 |
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hobbesmaster posted:The newest Denverton type SoC replacement is Elkhart lake (atom x6000) if that’s what you’re asking.
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:The Atom x6000 series don't do ECC. It does in band, but yeah. The other low power, low cost ones don’t do ECC either unless I’m forgetting or missing something. Intel’s non i series and “big xeon” naming makes absolutely no sense even by Intel’s standards
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hobbesmaster posted:It does in band, but yeah. The other low power, low cost ones don’t do ECC either unless I’m forgetting or missing something. Intel’s non i series and “big xeon” naming makes absolutely no sense even by Intel’s standards The Denverton SoCs had ECC memory support.
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I am still traumatized by circa-2016 Atoms committing suicide, (in my case, MY loving NAS) are we finally safe from that?
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SwissArmyDruid posted:I am still traumatized by circa-2016 Atoms committing suicide, (in my case, MY loving NAS) are we finally safe from that? Your NAS and 120 Cisco ASAs I had just finished deploying over the previous 6 months.
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Lowen SoDium posted:Your NAS and 120 Cisco ASAs I had just finished deploying over the previous 6 months. Jesus gently caress, do they have a portal to the Plane Of Suiciding Silicon that they can't close and are just trying to mitigate or something?
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Jesus gently caress, do they have a portal to the Plane Of Suiciding Silicon that they can't close and are just trying to mitigate or something? Ah, that’s why there were so many 14nm updates.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Jesus gently caress, do they have a portal to the Plane Of Suiciding Silicon that they can't close and are just trying to mitigate or something? In the case of Cisco ASAs, it was a pretty significant list of branch firewall devices that were all sold all the way up to August 2021: https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/field-notices/642/fn64228.html Supposedly the post-2019 revisions are free of this issue.
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Kazinsal posted:In the case of Cisco ASAs, it was a pretty significant list of branch firewall devices that were all sold all the way up to August 2021: https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/field-notices/642/fn64228.html That is what pissed me off the most: Cisco knew about the flaw before it was recalled and sold that poo poo to us anyways.
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hobbesmaster posted:72W for a ridiculous overclocking CPU seems quaint but think of that like 72 W for a single core  That's drat near a 10x multiple over contemporary 'flagship' CPUs, I don't even use twice as much for 16 cores at 4.5ghz. My dreams of doing a custom waterloop sous vide system are dying more and more every day. Can't even keep this gen's GPU over 60C if its actually using the fans. Hopefully nvme storage keeps getting hotter
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priznat posted:^^ what timing! haha we're rapidly normalizing capabilities previously reserved for highly specialized HPC systems
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$1.5B loss for the quarter from Intel. From the financials: Intel 4 + Meteor Lake (mobile only at first?) still a 2nd half 2023 launch. CPU tile is Intel 4, GPU, SoC, and IO are TSMC 6. Future nodes "on track": quote:Intel continues to be on track to meet its goal of achieving five nodes in four years, with two of the five Emerald Forest (P core) this year, with Sierra Forest (144 E core) in first half of 2024. quote:DCAI also announced it expects to deliver Intel’s 5th Gen Xeon Scalable processor, Emerald Rapids, later Projecting another loss in Q3, no mention of Arc in the financials at all.
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Kazinsal posted:In the case of Cisco ASAs, it was a pretty significant list of branch firewall devices that were all sold all the way up to August 2021: https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/field-notices/642/fn64228.html okay, but seriously, though, what's the goldilocks zone for atoms that I can use for an OPNsense box, but won't either explode in 1.5-3 years or have i225/i226 issues? Or just wait? (because I just got done raging at trying to diagnose intermittent internet problems that turned out to be said i225/i226 issues at work, and was barking up the wrong tree as our modem being bunk for THE LONGEST TIME.)
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SwissArmyDruid posted:okay, but seriously, though, what's the goldilocks zone for atoms that I can use for an OPNsense box, but won't either explode in 1.5-3 years or have i225/i226 issues? Or just wait? (because I just got done raging at trying to diagnose intermittent internet problems that turned out to be said i225/i226 issues at work, and was barking up the wrong tree as our modem being bunk for THE LONGEST TIME.) If you want one more datapoint about which Atoms are usable, you need to be aware that the entire N5095 - N6005 Jasper Lake family has some microcode-related kernel panics in guest VMs that resulted in 33 pages of comedy as people reproduce it on every kernel under the sun and hardware from 20 different manufacturers: https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/vm-freezes-irregularly.111494. I gave up and used mine as a physical box without any virtualization because of this.
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