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This seemed like a great topic but then the guest is immediately like "Yeah it was just a boring regular cruise. Don't read my article. David Foster Wallace did it better. Just go read that  "
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UP AND ADAM posted:Stop the terrible interviews This had all the makings of a good one. It's not a solo Will interview. Rich vein of subculture to dissect. Unfortunately, the reporter seems to be a dud and has nothing to say despite having gone on the Goop cruise and written it up in Harpers.
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Sometimes I wonder what Chapo Trap House might be like if it was about politics.
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Yeah just skip to 43:00 and avoid the interview. Interesting subject, boring presentation.
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I know this thread hates interviews and women so I assumed the actual episode would be fine but goddamn. Why does this chick keep bringing up a Harpers article from 28 years ago? Why does she expect everyone on earth to have read the whole Harpers back catalogue? She talks about “the shadow of the old cruise article”, What the gently caress is wrong with her?
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I thought the interview was fine, but I read the thread first so I was primed for something terrible. It definitely picks up once they talk about the news though
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crepeface posted:you don't get rid of your biggest (?) star/moneymaker because they pissed you off or cost you money, you get rid of them because they're going to cost you more money in the future than the money they bring in. It could be as simple as Tucker pissing people off too high up the chain; people who likely believe (right or wrong) that you can pretty trivially take that network and that timeslot and make a new Tucker out spare parts. They're probably right; that is how they made the old Tucker.
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lauren oyler is cool and always a good read, maybe not the best interview but i thought she was fineGripweed posted:I know this thread hates interviews and women so I assumed the actual episode would be fine but goddamn. Why does this chick keep bringing up a Harpers article from 28 years ago? Why does she expect everyone on earth to have read the whole Harpers back catalogue? She talks about “the shadow of the old cruise article”, What the gently caress is wrong with her? DFW wrote a famous essay for harpers where they paid him to take a cruise and write about it and now that same mag paid for her to write about this goop cruise, do you need more explanation than that?
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:a famous essay Do you even hear yourself?
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People in this thread have zero listening comprehension, expecting them to be literate on top of that is a fool's errand
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They should get people who can talk on the pod. Just because you're a writer doesn't mean you can talk about stuff
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Gripweed posted:I know this thread hates interviews and women so I assumed the actual episode would be fine but goddamn. Why does this chick keep bringing up a Harpers article from 28 years ago? Why does she expect everyone on earth to have read the whole Harpers back catalogue? She talks about “the shadow of the old cruise article”, What the gently caress is wrong with her? I had no prior knowledge of David Foster Wallace's allegedly famous cruise essay, but I do basically know who David Foster Wallace is, so when she mentioned very close to the top that he wrote the definitive modern piece on the cruise experience, I accepted her framing of that piece as something she felt looming over her and listened on without much difficulty.
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General Dog posted:I had no prior knowledge of David Foster Wallace's allegedly famous cruise essay, but I do basically know who David Foster Wallace is, so when she mentioned very close to the top that he wrote the definitive modern piece on the cruise experience, I accepted her framing of that piece as something she felt looming over her and listened on without much difficulty. so you expect everyone on earth to be able to pick up on context clues? what the gently caress is wrong with you?
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Heath posted:People in this thread have zero listening comprehension, expecting them to be literate on top of that is a fool's errand There’s a big gap between literacy and believing there is such a thing as famous Harpers articles.
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DFW was a generational talent and you’re doing yourself a disservice if you haven’t read A Supposedly Fun Thing I’ll Never Do Again and Ticket To The Fairquote:But when the sevens and eights hit the floor for a series of "Armed Service medleys" (spandex with epaulets and officers' caps and batons over shoulders like M16's), errant batons start pin- wheeling into the ceiling, tent's sides, and crowd, all with real force. I myself duck several times. A man just down the row takes one in the solar plexus and falls out of his metal chair with a horrid crash. The batons are embossed "Regulation Length" all, the shaft and have white rubber stoppers all, each end, but it is that hard dry kind of rubber, and the batons themselves aren't light. I don't think it's an accident that police night-sticks are also called service batons.
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General Dog posted:I had no prior knowledge of David Foster Wallace's allegedly famous cruise essay, but I do basically know who David Foster Wallace is, so when she mentioned very close to the top that he wrote the definitive modern piece on the cruise experience, I accepted her framing of that piece as something she felt looming over her and listened on without much difficulty. I’m not critiquing her for not explaining the article, I’m critiquing her for thinking she had to apologize for writing an article about going on a cruise because someone else wrote an article about going on a cruise before most people who are currently alive were even born.
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HannibalBarca posted:Yeah just skip to 43:00 and avoid the interview. Interesting subject, boring presentation. People are invariably going to poo poo on this, but I appreciate the public service of someone always giving the end of interview time stamps. You’re the real Tier 1 operators here.
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I've always wondered about those themed cruises because it seems like it would be tough to fill an entire cruiseliner with people willing to pay that much for just one thing. Apparently they don't and a cruise ship will have several themes at once, and then Goop didn't bother to, like, program anything for their customers.
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Little Goop cruise You don’t know what I got
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Gripweed posted:Do you even hear yourself? It was published in books of his as well, so its pretty well know. I'm sorry that the woman on the podcast is more well read than you, gripweed.
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They even named a Simpsons episode after the cruise essay
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PostNouveau posted:I've always wondered about those themed cruises because it seems like it would be tough to fill an entire cruiseliner with people willing to pay that much for just one thing. Apparently they don't and a cruise ship will have several themes at once, and then Goop didn't bother to, like, program anything for their customers. Yeah, it wasn't a great interview and I thought from the pitch that it'd be solid, but at heart she seemed really hung up that it was just a boring rear end cruise that slapped on some Goop branding and she didn't seem to want to go in on cruises sucking conceptually due to her hangups about just repeating old jokes. Still seems like she should have had a few stories out of it. I've heard other people cover quack health cruises or retreats and they can find crazy things to talk about, but then again they were willing to get covered in shitwater doing a deeply unsanitary colonic cleanse.
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"Famous essays" are indeed a concept within the sphere of being a professional writer.
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I feel like this nonsense deserves a reading series https://twitter.com/chicagotribune/status/1650869810140442632?s=46&t=BHs6Pl38GJXGN2Y4xeriNA Chicago elected a new progressive mayor and the CPD is already talking about just not doing their jobs because that worked to get rid of the socialist DA in SF
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FlamingLiberal posted:I feel like this nonsense deserves a reading series Not just talking about it, there are already reports of them standing aside while people get assaulted and then telling the victims it's Johnson's fault.
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Gripweed posted:I know this thread hates interviews and women so I assumed the actual episode would be fine but goddamn. Why does this chick keep bringing up a Harpers article from 28 years ago? Why does she expect everyone on earth to have read the whole Harpers back catalogue? She talks about “the shadow of the old cruise article”, What the gently caress is wrong with her? Fixating on something irrelevant is a classic move from the Goon playbook. Yours seems to be either Harpers Magazine or themed cruises. Heath posted:People in this thread have zero listening comprehension, expecting them to be literate on top of that is a fool's errand Also this. Henchman of Santa posted:Not just talking about it, there are already reports of them standing aside while people get assaulted and then telling the victims it's Johnson's fault. My uncle, who works at Nintendo, also told me it was Brandon's fault.
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This is a very well-known essay she's talking about. Essays going the 90s version of viral used to happen back then, but I guess it's completely impossible to consider now that no one has read a magazine in 10 years? I dunno think of it as having the same level of fame as the Exiting the Vampire Castle if you're hung up on it.
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Or like the 'hot couch' episode of your podcast
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PostNouveau posted:think of it as having the same level of fame as the Exiting the Vampire Castle Jesus Christ.
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Gripweed posted:Jesus Christ. I dunno what to tell you, man. There's a good reason she's hung up on it.
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It was surprising that they spoke with a person who writes essays for magazines and considers that there may be notable essays written in the 90s that survive into modern memory. As far as I know this is the first Chapo Episode that has focused on reading a piece of writing, which I think was jarring to the majority of the audience. The whole reason to listen to Podcasts is that you are illiterate and therefore prefer the audio medium to the written word. Strange choice, hope they get back to saying “big wet diap” and “tasty treats” asap.
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i haven't read the famous article and I'm not going to listen to the podcast interview because I am both illiterate and deaf
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crepeface posted:i haven't read the famous article and I'm not going to listen to the podcast interview because I am both illiterate and deaf the famous article is good imo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7W3nx31ztY
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Stop responding to all the the deaf illiterate goons in this thread pls
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lonelylikezoidberg posted:Sometimes I wonder what Chapo Trap House might be like if it was about politics.
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little munchkin posted:the famous article is good imo
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Gripweed posted:Jesus Christ. i have a ball. perhaps you would like to bounce it.
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