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Failed Imagineer posted:I think we're talking past each other - it seems clear that the old dude is getting spurious charges from Team Trump That's a possibility but one I had sorta dismissed. If Team Trump is just randomly charging cards of people that never even gave them the card's information and didn't even give them the fig leaf of approval that has been happening with Trump's fundraising emails that's as close to out and out fraud as I can possibly imagine. I'm trying to parse what the original message was about and there's a lot of ambiguity.
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bird food bathtub posted:For fascists hypocrisy isn't a problem, it's a privilege. They'll have less than zero problem holding both view points at the same time; they'll enjoy that it pisses off their enemies. It was an open Nazi tactic. Accuse your enemy of that which you are guilty.
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It's not even fraud, it's theft. With fraud there is at least a pretense of a transaction.
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https://twitter.com/lawofruby/status/1646951452030431232 Is this the rape trial where all they need is his dna that he keeps suing to bar?
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Item #3 is wild. Jurors' names, employment, and immediate family employment? I'd love to hear any justification for such an open-ended inquiry.
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Shooting Blanks posted:Item #3 is wild. Jurors' names, employment, and immediate family employment? I'd love to hear any justification for such an open-ended inquiry. I mean yeah the justification would be wild in the "wonder what kind of lies they would make up" sense but every one not a lying fascist knows the real reason would be to splash their family faces all over Fox and then be shocked, shocked I say, when one gets murdered.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:It was an open Nazi tactic. Accuse your enemy of that which you are guilty. That’s a common misconception actually. They never really did that, as it turns out
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bird food bathtub posted:I mean yeah the justification would be wild in the "wonder what kind of lies they would make up" sense but every one not a lying fascist knows the real reason would be to splash their family faces all over Fox and then be shocked, shocked I say, when one gets murdered. To Republicans, a jury of their peers means an entire jury who looks, votes, earns, acts, worships and thinks exactly like they do. Anything else is biased and unfair.
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Shooting Blanks posted:Item #3 is wild. Jurors' names, employment, and immediate family employment? I'd love to hear any justification for such an open-ended inquiry. Delay, delay, delay.
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As you can see in Juror #5’s form he listed his brother as a Programmer, but the brother is actually a Sr Backend Dev. We demand a retrial and juror 5 to be charged with perjury. Also juror 6’s family died. Oopsy
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Yeah I'd really like those juror's names and family's names and pet's names so that when they rule against me some things can happen 
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bird food bathtub posted:That's a possibility but one I had sorta dismissed. If Team Trump is just randomly charging cards of people that never even gave them the card's information and didn't even give them the fig leaf of approval that has been happening with Trump's fundraising emails that's as close to out and out fraud as I can possibly imagine. I'm trying to parse what the original message was about and there's a lot of ambiguity. You might be interested to know that Trump is being investigated for fraud regarding his campaign donations.
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OgNar posted:https://twitter.com/lawofruby/status/1646951452030431232 Judge Kaplan seems to be getting annoyed enough that he’s going to start sanctioning people. Maybe that’s the plan? Glad him into an outburst to win a retrial on appeal? Lol, I kid, they don’t have a plan. They are just that incompetent that they would file a motion requesting actions they were just denied.
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Murgos posted:Judge Kaplan seems to be getting annoyed enough that he’s going to start sanctioning people. Maybe that’s the plan? Glad him into an outburst to win a retrial on appeal? Oh, you STRENUOUSLY object? Then I'll take some time and reconsider!
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BiggerBoat posted:To Republicans, a jury of their peers means an entire jury who looks, votes, earns, acts, worships and thinks exactly like they do. Anything else is biased and unfair. "Are you kidding me? Those 12 bastards will stab me in the back the moment they get the chance! I know that's what I would do to them!" -every Republican if they were really putting their lives jn the hands of their peers.
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I'm gonna start ending my emails with SO ORDERED.
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Randalor posted:"Are you kidding me? Those 12 bastards will stab me in the back the moment they get the chance! I know that's what I would do to them!" -every Republican if they were really putting their lives jn the hands of their peers. Mention the name of the person, however, or that they're an elected official or CEO, and suddenly they'll want statues and awards and 24/7 media masturbation. The intake survey probably should be given: What is just punishment for the following crimes? (Including things that aren't). Disqualify anyone who is entirely inconsistent or reversed, eg breaking into republican headquarters demands execution whereas a mass murderer is given 3dy furlough if at least one of the people in the club was an unwed mother. Some sort of "average insanity" test.
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I believe you're describing the reasonable person doctrine? IANAL though.
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Ynglaur posted:I believe you're describing the reasonable person doctrine? IANAL though. More like having unreasonable people judged by their own standards, really.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/14/us/politics/trump-personal-financial-disclosure.html https://www.rawstory.com/melania-trump-2659861675/ Six Takeaways From Trump’s New Financial Disclosure In a 101-page filing, Donald J. Trump revealed lower-than-expected values on his social media company and sizable bank loans. "Privately, Mr. Trump had been assured the (NFTs) venture could hit as much as $100 million in sales, but early returns suggested a less spectacular outcome, with analysts estimating less than $6 million in total revenue by early February." "Since leaving office, Mr. Trump has paid off six outstanding loans, including ones valued at more than $50 million on Trump Tower in New York and Trump Doral, a golf club outside Miami that has been his family company’s single-biggest revenue-generating property. He also took out new loans, both from Axos Bank and totaling more than $50 million each, on the Trump Tower and Doral properties." I can only assume all this money to pay off loans came from suckers and recurring donations. "The financial disclosure shows the first payments to Mr. Trump for a new deal backed by a Saudi Arabia-based real estate investment firm to build a new golf and hotel complex in Oman. The payments so far are listed simply as worth more than $5 million. The project is slated to be built in Muscat, Oman, on a hillside adjacent to the Gulf of Oman, and will include a golf resort, villas and two hotels, a company executive said."
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Debate & Discussion > Trump Legal Troubles: Looks Like Muscat Love
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/19/politics/trump-carroll-trial-attendance/index.html Trump’s attendance at rape and defamation trial against him would be a ‘burden’ on the city, his lawyer says "Donald Trump’s attorney on Wednesday said the former president “wishes” to appear at next week’s civil trial where a jury will hear columnist E. Jean Carroll’s assault and defamation claims against him – but his attendance should not be necessary because it would be a “burden” on the city and court. The letter to the judge, from attorney Joseph Tacopina, appears to argue that Trump shouldn’t attend his civil trial without saying he won’t." Dons just thinking about the burden on his citizens "“Defendant Trump wishes to appear at trial,” the letter states, but adds “concern” that New York City and the court would face “logistical and financial burdens” to have a former president travel with the Secret Service and other security protections to the proceedings." "This Court and the City it calls home are fully equipped to handle any logistical burdens that may result from Mr. Trump’s appearance at a weeklong trial.” They also noted Trump has traveled for other recent events, including an Ultimate Fighting Championship event, and has a campaign appearance scheduled two days into the trial."
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"Oh man, I'd totally go. But, you know...traffic, amirite?"
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OgNar posted:"“Defendant Trump wishes to appear at trial,” the letter states, but adds “concern” that New York City and the court would face “logistical and financial burdens” to have a former president travel with the Secret Service and other security protections to the proceedings." Really he seemed to have no trouble travelling to and from NYC for a not insignificant chunk of his presidency. But this is just the same horseshit as "I absolutely want to show you my complete tax returns because they're perfect but uh the IRS won't let me right now bye"
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Also had no problem inconveniencing state governments and the taxpayer with all his trips while President. If anyone else tried this poo poo the Police/FBI would be kicking in their door and dragging them off to face trial.
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Angry_Ed posted:Also had no problem inconveniencing state governments and the taxpayer with all his trips while President. Every defendant has the right to be present for their trial but they can waive that right.
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Murgos posted:People already knew the gist of her story. She had been trying to sell it for years. Since at least 2011 if not earlier. Also, she's a Republican.
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Tucker Carlson is out of Fox News. Hopefully he goes somewhere with far smaller viewership, and thus less influence in terms of his ability to lie his way into the fascist paradise he so clearly wants.
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Indictment #2 watch:. https://www.ajc.com/politics/trump-probe-da-urges-law-enforcement-to-prep-for-indictments-this-summer/56OGCLMNOVGPXMJ6YXDPXQOSWY/ https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/georgia-prosecutor-reveal-charging-decisions-trump-probe-summer-rcna81242 GA law enforcement told to beef up for possible Trump indictment.
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The documents case also seems to be pretty mature. Boris Epshteyn spent most of last Thursday and Friday at the DoJ. That’s basically the top of the pyramid on this side of the investigations.
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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/donald-trump-goes-trial-accused-rape-2023-04-25/ "NEW YORK, April 25 (Reuters) - Donald Trump went on trial on Tuesday, where the writer E. Jean Carroll accuses the former U.S. president in a civil lawsuit of raping her in a department store dressing room in the mid-1990s. Jury selection began in Manhattan federal court in the former Elle magazine advice columnist's case, where Carroll is also accusing Trump of defamation." "Kaplan is keeping jurors anonymous from the public and the lawyers, to shield them from potential harassment by Trump supporters." "Trump was not in the courthouse and not required to attend the trial, and his lawyers have indicated he likely will not testify in his defense. Lawyers for Carroll also do not plan to call Trump as a witness."
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OgNar posted:"Kaplan is keeping jurors anonymous from the public and the lawyers, to shield them from potential harassment by Trump supporters." This needs to be addressed at some point. I don’t know why we let MAGA yokels leave death threats for election workers, jurors, judges, congress members, etc. and suffer absolutely no consequences.
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Zotix posted:Indictment #2 watch:. https://www.ajc.com/politics/trump-probe-da-urges-law-enforcement-to-prep-for-indictments-this-summer/56OGCLMNOVGPXMJ6YXDPXQOSWY/ Noooo I want it nowwwwww *whines*
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duodenum posted:This needs to be addressed at some point. I don’t know why we let MAGA yokels leave death threats for election workers, jurors, judges, congress members, etc. and suffer absolutely no consequences. the people in charge of the consequences are MAGA yokels.
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https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1650991037836591107?s=20 Doesn't sound good for Ted Cruz.
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Well, I'd like to see ol' Ted Cruz wiggle his way out of this jam! Watches as Ted Cruz thrashes and bleats on the ground, the dust of his ambitions frothing around him as he churns aimlessly in place. Ah, well. So much the less.
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Zotix posted:https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1650991037836591107?s=20 Surely THIS time the powerful person will be held accountable!
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