(Thread IKs:
weg, Toxic Mental)
|
Major uptick in shelling north of kupiansk on the west side of the river. Remember sometimes the fear of a counter offensive is just as deadly for morale and troop expenditure of munitions as a real counter offensive. As in probing or scouting missions may be met with huge barrages that just waste supplies as the one or two vehicles are miles way from the fire missions target.
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 18:16
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 28, 2024 17:55 |
|
|
The_Franz posted:Russia's doctrine of deporting the native populace and moving their people in means that countries with human rights and minority protection laws don't actually want that territory back, because they don't want to inherit hundreds of thousands of Russians. China don't care and would likely either deport the current inhabitants back across the historical Russian border, or re-educate them a la the Uyghurs. This. Next to no-one in Finland wants the 1939 borders back because it means taking million Russians with it. Everyone who had Finnish passport was thrown out of the ceded areas after the war, or disappeared later by Stalin. Closest thing to getting that area back would be something like lobbing for independent Republic of Karelia which includes Kola peninsula and nothing more. Don't let the assholes in Moscow to keep it, but don't ourselves want it back either. And it would be nice to live in a country that doesn't have border with Russia.
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 18:17
|
|
|
HonorableTB posted:I know basically nothing of South Africa, how did they come to be involved in BRICS? I'm not a historian but South Africa got added at the behest of China and the cynic in me says it was for more easy access to natural resources as well as a perfect market for cheaper Chinese imports. There is a lot of "infrastructure investment" that boils down into tap lines from the interior mines straight to the export ports.
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 18:17
|
|
|
Radio Paranoia posted:I'm not a historian but South Africa got added at the behest of China and the cynic in me says it was for more easy access to natural resources as well as a perfect market for cheaper Chinese imports. China has focused substantially on expanding its influence in Africa using Belt & Road so it would not surprise me if your theory was right and this was a way for China to give itself another influence pathway
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 18:20
|
|
|
I'm really surprised African governments are fine letting China do this. It's so obvious what they are doing. They are going to peace out once they give the continent a good fleecing.
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 18:28
|
|
|
Tai posted:I'm really surprised African governments are fine letting China do this. It's so obvious what they are doing. They are going to peace out once they give the continent a good fleecing. The government [officials] are being paid handsomely for the minerals.
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 18:32
|
|
|
Tai posted:I'm really surprised African governments are fine letting China do this. It's so obvious what they are doing. They are going to peace out once they give the continent a good fleecing. It's not really surprising to me. Think how many nations there were colonies of Europeans that brutally exploited them, and then they became independent with a whole range of systemic issues stemming from that colonization. Now here is China, offering parternships. The African countries aren't dumb or anything, they aren't going into this blind or ignorantly. They know the cost of a developmental partnership with China. The thing is not only are they actually getting tangible and material improvements in their countries in the form of infrastructure and development, the influence it's buying isn't going to Europe and their former colonial owners. Wildly oversimplifying things but this isn't the thread for that. TLDR: if your former owners and a self-interested third party with no such ties to your country both offer your nation a deal, who would you be more likely to work with based on living memory of your citizens? e: plus corruption, of course. part and parcel
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 18:36
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPR/status/1650439450155970560?s=20 Guessing this is just a bit of old footage with a fancy filter added on top because otherwise 
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 18:43
|
|
|
freelop posted:https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPR/status/1650439450155970560?s=20 That's exactly what it is BTW "goida" (гойда) is like a battle cry of sorts. like, "Kill! Attack!" Goida 09.05 is the Ukrainians being extremely ironic about Russians shouting this in Red Square to hype themselves up for the fight Read this for more context and it's a big ol lol https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/10/07/goida-they-shouted-say-what-a79021 HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Apr 25, 2023 |
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 19:10
|
|
|
HonorableTB posted:I know basically nothing of South Africa, how did they come to be involved in BRICS? there's no rhyme or reason to BRICS; the whole concept was made up as a "wouldn't it be nice" scenario of possible emerging economies by a Goldman Sachs analyst who pretty much selected the countries to fit a pun in the title of his book (Building Better Global Economic BRICs). The fact that some of those countries started seemingly taking this "framework" somewhat seriously is one of the better cases of life imitating art, as a farce in this case. But really there's no BRICS, there's just countries doing normal opportunistic power politics and taking advantage of each other while flying a dumb logo.
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 19:14
|
|
|
The African countries don't care in the slightest whether it's colonialism or not because the rulers are themselves cut in on the looting. See also the Sudanese civil war at the moment. They don't give a poo poo.
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 19:17
|
|
|
HonorableTB posted:Latest casualty counts are also indicative of major offensive activity. Hachi machi just take a look at the amount of logistics/support vehicles and artillery systems that got destroyed
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 19:19
|
|
|
Yeah none of the actual population is benefiting from the deals with China, all the work is done by Chinese workers w everything boated in while the profits are split between China and the people who made the deals with them.
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 19:20
|
|
|
Pennsylvanian posted:Makes sense. I heard someone mention recently that Bakhmut has only been a focus because it just happens to be where a bunch of Russian supply lines converge. Bakhmut became a focus when it was clear that Russia was going to just pour infinite men and materiel into a death zone so Ukraine obliged them while it built up for this counteroffensive. Now Russia's severely depleted for defending against it, hopefully. Who knows how many of Russia's operational and mobile reserve forces are left after the Bakhmut disaster
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 19:21
|
|
|
Strategic Tea posted:The African countries don't care in the slightest whether it's colonialism or not because the rulers are themselves cut in on the looting. I'm honestly surprised China didn't step in to help "manage" South Africa's electricity crisis after the Russian power plant dealings between 2016 - 2018 collapsed. 15 years later and the ruling party is starting to realise that the current problems might actually affect their majority at the polls.
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 19:40
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1650920320419901441 I <3 Cucker Tarlson
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 19:40
|
|
|
Small bit of counter-offensive news: https://t-me.translate.goog/suspilnekherson?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp quote:In the Kherson region, the work on clearing the front line of the left bank of the Dnieper continues, in the last three days - "quite powerful results", reported the head of the press center of the Southern Defense Forces Humenyuk. "We're kicking they're asses but don't tell anyone." 
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 19:53
|
|
|
Deteriorata posted:Small bit of counter-offensive news: Russian army probably finds out about losses from Ukrainian sources before their own.
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 19:58
|
|
|
lmao they fired fucker failson; the west is crumbling!
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 20:38
|
|
|
TEMPLE GRANDIN OS posted:lmao they fired fucker failson; the west is crumbling! But David Duke told me he was uncuckable 
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 20:46
|
|
|
the holy poopacy posted:It is a pretty tired joke, to be honest. Please quit beating off that dead horse. I'm pretty sure the horse is cool with it. "It's a living."
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 21:23
|
|
|
Noel update for the day. Standard off-site CWs apply https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1650964128314322953?t=XwNTo75Oey-UwMPFjOIjZA&s=19 Explosions reported also in berdyansk https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1650964138959466503?t=jB-FJyoFVCB9pNwapW_YFQ&s=19 General Events: https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1650964153291403293?t=F5FRqmGzUN2k0Bcjz7LaqQ&s=19 https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1650964156449714199?t=ygDrCYhRLrV74onwiBP09A&s=19 https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1650964159729659925?t=bCg7j2wQeAYmZ-ysFteZ2Q&s=19 No maps, bakhmut is relatively stable and opsec is being tight
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 22:10
|
|
|
HonorableTB posted:That's exactly what it is quote:I remembered гойда vaguely from Vladimir Sorokin’s “Day of the Oprichnik,” which is a novel about Ivan the Terrible’s reign of terror in the upcoming year of 2028 That is the novel that popularized the modern oprichnik/silovik comparisons and screaming goida, which oprichinks do in the memorable bath scene where a dozen of them, endowed with chinese cyberdicks, gently caress each other in a big conga line
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 23:09
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1650925140882890760 bold strategy. Let's see if they really are stupid enough to open up another front.
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 23:36
|
|
|
zone posted:https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1650925140882890760 
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2023 23:42
|
|
|
The only thing the Russian government has shown any competency at is throwing rich guys out of windows.
|
|
#
?
Apr 26, 2023 00:22
|
|
|
Lammasu posted:The only thing the Russian government has shown any competency at is throwing rich guys out of windows. Ah now I get it
|
|
#
?
Apr 26, 2023 00:23
|
|
|
Throwing people out of windows is the new Russia gig work economy like fiverr but it's fiverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...
|
|
#
?
Apr 26, 2023 00:50
|
|
|
Lammasu posted:The only thing the Russian government has shown any competency at is throwing rich guys out of windows. You might think so but I'm going to bet there have been many failures along the way. There has to be a least one instance of a hitman trying to kill a guy by pushing him up a flight of stairs.
|
|
#
?
Apr 26, 2023 01:05
|
|
|
weg posted:You might think so but I'm going to bet there have been many failures along the way. There was one FSB agent who tried to blow up a car but just burned his lips.
|
|
#
?
Apr 26, 2023 01:06
|
|
|
Deteriorata posted:There was one FSB agent who tried to blow up a car but just burned his lips. No, no. He tried to blow a car, not blow UP a car. Those exhausts get real hot.
|
|
#
?
Apr 26, 2023 01:23
|
|
|
Looking forward to the reports showing that Ukraine has captured more territory in one day today than war crimes loving Russia has in 6 months in Bakhmut 
|
|
#
?
Apr 26, 2023 01:24
|
|
|
Prigozhin: *points to head* "Ukraine cannot counter attack if we do not attack"
|
|
#
?
Apr 26, 2023 01:30
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1650970780807712769
|
|
#
?
Apr 26, 2023 01:46
|
|
|
Lol I don't think the west will be cutting off aid any time soon, Vlad
|
|
#
?
Apr 26, 2023 01:54
|
|
|
Holy poo poo This is pretty big right? Has the US ever fully admitted they want Ukraine in NATO? That seems like a sign the US and NATO believe Russia is really not a threat for retaliation anymore. Also lol forever if the Russians get encircled at Bakmut just like Stalingrad
|
|
#
?
Apr 26, 2023 02:25
|
|
|
Eh, it's just a resolution, that carries very little real weight or chance of being adopted. I'll believe it when I see 435 congressmen sign a pledge.
|
|
#
?
Apr 26, 2023 02:27
|
|
|
Bipartisan anything is big news in 2023 though
|
|
#
?
Apr 26, 2023 02:42
|
|
|
Gotta be well rested for the offensive https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1650208918302494720
|
|
#
?
Apr 26, 2023 02:49
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 28, 2024 17:55 |
|
|
Uh, maybe do that somewhere with a roof, at least. That's how a lot of guys get it.
|
|
#
?
Apr 26, 2023 02:55
|
|
