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Captain France posted:Also, who else is incredibly annoyed that they changed the pronunciation of Seele's name from "Say-lay" to "Zee-la?" It's probably trying to be German OP
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Clarste posted:Yeah, the fact that the entire gameplay grind loop by necessity breaks the leveling curve in two is pretty dumb, and common to all gachas I've played. Content tends to be either designed for endgame levels or is trivial, with very little in between. also wrt stacking elements, if you check silver wolf's kit in the tutorial, she has a gimmick where she makes an enemy weak to one of her teammates elements. so she seems like a character designed to encourage stacking? assuming she keeps it when they actually add her, anyway.
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I find it vaguely terrifying that achievements like this even exist (minor 2nd planet spoilers): I have to assume there are ways to refight bosses?
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Endorph posted:its at least easy in this game to keep one set of characters at level for the story and then another for whatever else you wanna do. or just grind stuff for later. in general this game seems a bit disinterested in its own gacha daily stufff Honestly it's pretty hard to get too overleveled for the story. The Trailblazer level gates for ascension mean that, for example you're stuck at level 40 while fighting a recommended level 38 plot boss.
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Clarste posted:I find it vaguely terrifying that achievements like this even exist (minor 2nd planet spoilers): i think once you get through what story is in the game at launch you can go back to previous planets and fight challenge modes of the bosses? im not that far in myself yet but ive seen a challenge mode bronya that or they're in simulated universe or that other mode somewhere
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That "3" lock room in the space station: is the key you get from the monster at end of the hall one of the keys? Just want to make sure I'm understanding it right.
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I'm currently kind of rushing through to unlock as many game features as possible. I've just got to the the first planet and unlocked
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Qwertycoatl posted:I'm currently kind of rushing through to unlock as many game features as possible. I've just got to the the first planet and unlocked
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Apr 27, 2023 13:28
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This is basically a single player game, right? What's the rush? I played Genshin for a couple days but didn't get very far. Is there any sort of competitive mode in the endgame?
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GoodluckJonathan posted:This is basically a single player game, right? What's the rush? I played Genshin for a couple days but didn't get very far. Is there any sort of competitive mode in the endgame?
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GoodluckJonathan posted:This is basically a single player game, right? What's the rush? I played Genshin for a couple days but didn't get very far. Is there any sort of competitive mode in the endgame? It's mainly fomo brainworms.
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m.hache posted:That "3" lock room in the space station: is the key you get from the monster at end of the hall one of the keys? Just want to make sure I'm understanding it right. Yes. You can interact with the lock to get the locations of the other two as well.
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Figured I'd do a little brief summary of some of the legacy characters in this game for shits and giggles and just cause I find it amusing to talk about how bonkers the lore in the Honkai series is. Keep in mind this has minimal bearing on their characters here in this universe and is largely done to the best of my knowledge based on the manga, in-game stuff and various flavor texts for Honkai 3rd, hence the spoiler tags. Himeko: In the previous era of the Honkai 3 Universe over 50,000 years ago, Himeko was the commander of a unit fighting the Honkai until she was awoken as the Herscherr of Fire (Think absolute master of an element or concept bordering on godhood) and burned the continent of Australia to the ground essentially in a total casualty situation before finally being stopped leaving one character Fu Hua partially traumatized by the incident since it was Himeko that had rescued and recruited her in the first place. In the current era she was interested in astronomy but instead chose to undergo rituals necessary to become an artificial Valkyrie, although not having the proper genetic makeup to do so shortened her lifespan she still chose to go through with it since she felt it was the place in life where she could most make a difference. Eventually she ended up crossing paths with the main characters Kiana, Mei and Bronya and had to fight back Mei in her Herscherr of Thunder form using a specialized powered armor suit, which should have been basically impossible (remember her previous era Herscherr incarnation versus the entire continent of Australia was a losing battle for the latter), but through a combination of some other factors she managed to have the Herscherr of Thunder sealed. She decided to take the trio under her wing and essentially became the mentor character to them all and trained them as Valkyries to fight the Honkai during the 3rd major eruption. We all know what usually happens to senpai/mentor characters in these stories though, but I'll leave it at that. Very obviously based in part on the character of Misato Katsuragi from Evangelion. Silver Wolf If you play the game in Japanese you'll notice she has the same voice actor and kind of looks like Bronya, which is because she essentially is the child form of Bronya Zaychik from Honkai 3rd. Bronya was an orphaned Russian child following the 2nd Honkai Eruption conflict (chronicled in a 10 volume or so manga series) that was recruited as an assassin by the Siberian army and became known as the legendary Silver Wolf. Eventually she would be sent on a mission to assassinate the terrorist Cocolia, but ended up failing and was captured and recruited into Cocolia's "Orphanage" which was essentially just the same life as a trained killer she'd always lived. It was there that she would meet Seele Vollerei though and find her first friend in life and they'd form a deep sisterly bond. In the manga Azure Waters Cocolia would attempt to run a test on entering the Quantum realm which Seele would eventually volunteer for in order to save Bronya from the ordeal, but she would get lost in the Quantuum realm during the experiment leading Bronya to try to enter to rescue her anyway. Staying too long in the quantuum realm had some adverse effects though which lead to a seizure essentially robbing Bronya of the ability to properly express emotions, though she still seems to understand and be able to process those of people around her. This is why she has such a lispy monotone voice in at least the Japanese dub of the game despite a healthy dose of sarcasm to a lot of her lines. Eventually she'd be sent on a mission to try to kidnap Raiden Mei in Japan (It was known by Cocolia that she's the natural Herscherr of Thunder and Cocolia is trying to collect Herscherr cores for one of her many experiments), but she ends up forming a friendship with the two after the 3rd honkai eruption breaks out and defects from and joins the group on their journey through the warzone of Nagazora where they're eventually all recruited and rescued by Himeko's detachment. Based in large part on the sarcastic quippy low emotion characters in sci-fi/mecha anime popularized by the likes of Rei Ayanami from Evangelion and Ruri Hoshino from Martian Successor Nadesico. I'll probably do a little more of these later, but it's been pretty interesting to see some of the similarities and differences with these characters different incarnations already. For so many people this is their first introduction to these characters though.
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coolusername posted:I’m really digging this one. I tried Genshin Impact but I couldn’t get into the writing, it was veeery dry. That's funny because I always thought that Genshin has a lot of those sorts of things as well, albeit moreso earlier on, where it tailored the writing and linguistic stylings (and memes) to whatever region the language setting was on. I actually wasn't really expecting that with the game and kind of expected it to be jank Chinese->English borderline incomprehensible poorly transliterated story telling like that Honkai 3rd wiki I tried to read 5 years ago. Funny how people can have such different impressions.
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GoodluckJonathan posted:This is basically a single player game, right? What's the rush? I played Genshin for a couple days but didn't get very far. Is there any sort of competitive mode in the endgame? the main objective benefit is that you get access to higher level quests to use your daily stamina on which means you waste less of it on lovely low level stages with bad rewards. it also means you are pushing against the trailblazer level cap / artificial unit level cap which makes it harder (since you arent getting bonus xp from daily quests) but some people do be wanting the extra challenge. Taking it slow is a valid choice and will result in an easier / more relaxed progression most likely but it does mean it takes a lot longer to get to high level content and 'the good gear'.
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Absolutely wild to me that they link all these universes together so much. Never played HI3 but I knew Himeko was in it when she was revealed in Star Rail and everyone lost their minds. Had no idea about Bronya, Silver Wolf, and Seele though. Also as a Genshin player I had no clue Raiden Shogun was (it sounds like) similar to Raiden Mei? Also she’s the Electro Archon vs Mei’s Herscherr of Thunder? Very neat.
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I played through all of Honkai Impact's main story over a month to get ready for this game (which was completely unnecessary), and honestly I kind of wish they'd just been entirely separate games, or at least been expies like Honkai->Genshin, because the similarities just kind of make me miss Impact's action combat. This game having autobattle and super fast dailies definitely makes grinding less of a hassle though, so I'll probably just play Impact for story and events and only grind here.
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1 account with himeko on 50th pull 1 account with bailu but only 20 pulls in Do I just give up on the Himeko account and stick with the Bailu account?
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Clarste posted:Yeah, it's like that in Genshin Impact too; you have to wait for everyone to nod or whatever before continuing to the next line. It does feel like it's just wasting your time sometimes. Bruceski posted:Hmm, I remember Genshin being less obnoxious but maybe that was the cutscene to gameplay ratio. I'll poke it later and see if I'm in a better mood. it's not 100% of what was weird about genshin cutscenes but i bounced between a few languages and figured out that all the animations and auto-timings were, idk, 'hard-keyed' to the chinese language timings? so if you had a line in english that was much a much shorter read it would just hang for a few seconds, or if the english line was much longer then the animation and camera would just pause until it was time to move on
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Boris Galerkin posted:1 account with himeko on 50th pull did you figure out a fast way to reroll or are you just manually going through the story 30 minutes at a time??
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Jinnigan posted:did you figure out a fast way to reroll or are you just manually going through the story 30 minutes at a time?? I started up a separate account for both my phone and pc and tried to do them in sync. e: Wasn't planning on re-rolling, just was gonna stick with the better of the accounts.
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Honestly if I didn't already have a linked account (which doesn't seem to matter, but still), I probably would have rerolled a couple times to see if I could get Bronya or Welt. Now I'm just hoping I pull one so I can pity the other, because I really want Welt for imaginary but Bronya seems really good and I already have her five star cone.
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Boris Galerkin posted:1 account with himeko on 50th pull i dont think either is objectively better so its up to you, you're only guaranteed 1 5* so your extra pulls on bailu acct might come to nothing. meta-wise bailu is rated higher but himeko is rad + very good in fights with multiple fire-weak enemies
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I unlocked Qingque this morning, and I'm not sold on her yet. Seems like a big random factor to her abilities, though having access to yet another element is nice. The nice thing about this being early stages is that I can take the time to level up characters I didn't use much the first time through and see what they can do.
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How real is the standard banner selector, practically speaking? No chance in hell I'm spending any jade on it, and I haven't made 300 rolls on the standard banner in Genshin even after playing it for 8 months.
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Considering that every class is based on one of the Aeons, I wonder if they'll ever fill out the rest of them by adding more classes. Like The Elation for example. On the other hand I feel like they're already stretching it in terms of unique party roles.
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Whoreson Welles posted:Absolutely wild to me that they link all these universes together so much. Never played HI3 but I knew Himeko was in it when she was revealed in Star Rail and everyone lost their minds. Had no idea about Bronya, Silver Wolf, and Seele though. Yeah Mei is the main Japanese representative character in the franchise along with Yae and they've shared the same Japanese voice actresses across all their appearances and versions so far and I believe the same Chinese ones as well. Miyuki Sawashiro and Ayane Sakura. Theres rumors of them eventually getting expys in this game and I'm curious to see if they retain their English VAs now that they have them in Genshin or if they just ignore that with the casting. Honkai Impact 3rd came out before Mihoyo got trendy outside of Asia so it just never had an English dub and used the Japanese one with subtitles. e: I'm already getting youtube ads for this game on my phone.
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Just beat the boss of the snow planet, that was cool I liked that whole setpiece.
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I have to imagine we are getting all of the main squad from Honkai, so I am expecting Kiana, Mei, and Fu Hua. Just like Seele I'm going to have to have them. As for the universes being connected, Honkai already established a multi-verse so it makes sense in it, though now I'm going to spend the entire game looking for anyone with magenta energy so I can do the Leo point meme at it. I really want to know how mechanically it slots into the Honkai verse and how things changed after the story of Honkai, given ti seems to have pretty big implications for the state of things. But I also know they don't want to make everyone play Honkai to understand the greater universe. Also in Japanese I'm pretty sure that Stellaron and Stigma use the same word.
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I think I’m doing something wrong if I’ve been beaten by Bronya twice on the frozen planet. Where can I level up my characters and cones/cards( whatever they are called)?
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delfin posted:I unlocked Qingque this morning, and I'm not sold on her yet. Seems like a big random factor to her abilities, though having access to yet another element is nice. If you save up your skill uses for her turn you can stack extra damage on her main attack + fish for celestial jade easily. She's really strong imho.
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Personally, I just read her skill descriptions and went "nope, not playing mahjong."
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Indecisive posted:i dont think either is objectively better so its up to you, you're only guaranteed 1 5* so your extra pulls on bailu acct might come to nothing. meta-wise bailu is rated higher but himeko is rad + very good in fights with multiple fire-weak enemies Well I was playing the Bailu account to get some more pulls (I didn't know about the banner only guaranteeing one 5* and not a 5* on the 50th pull) and did another 10pull. Got Bronya. I guess this one is a keeper.
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Clarste posted:Personally, I just read her skill descriptions and went "nope, not playing mahjong." Unfortunately I don't have any real gacha luck so she's my only option for Quantum so she's getting built, mahjong minigame or not.
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Is there a guide to help navigate all of this currency and the best place to spend it? I don't want to burn valuable coins on a useless doodad
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m.hache posted:Is there a guide to help navigate all of this currency and the best place to spend it? I don't want to burn valuable coins on a useless doodad https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/
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I hope someone makes a paimon.moe for this game. They left out pity trackers in game so having that out of game will be very helpful.
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Eimi posted:I hope someone makes a paimon.moe for this game. They left out pity trackers in game so having that out of game will be very helpful. https://starrailstation.com/en Someone already made one, it's in beta so a bit jank but.
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