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tomanton posted:Bunting projected to be a scratch for game 5. Good. He hasn’t been effective for a month and half despite getting top 6 deployment and PP time, refs were evening up every call he drew and negating Leafs PPs by taking him in every scrum before he finally hosed up and put the team in a massive hole in the playoffs. You can’t justify taking out guys like Lafferty or ZAR, who produced exactly as much as he did down the stretch in worse minutes and have been eating dzone face offs, just because Bunting had a breakout season last year. And even then Bunting sucked in the playoffs last year too. On a related note, Leafs are pretty fortunate that Knies has exceeded all reasonable expectations of his play so far or the Leafs winger depth would look real bad. e: here’s a better illustration https://twitter.com/theoakleafs/status/1651286338031812608?s=46&t=HQKtcRjDK4S81BLV4tbVnw Leafs fans want one of the top two guys taken out for the guy on the bottom?
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The Dirty Burger posted:Tanner Jeannot may have 0 points in this series, but man was his head good at accepting Luke Schenn punches I suspect that deal was making good on an IOU for taking on 4x6.75 of Ryan McDonagh's contract for nothing.
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# ? Apr 26, 2023 20:38 |
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Zodijackylite posted:I suspect that deal was making good on an IOU for taking on 4x6.75 of Ryan McDonagh's contract for nothing. my favorite rumor ever along these lines was that Edmonton had an understanding with Chicago that they would eat poo poo on the Duncan Keith trade (literally everything in that trade favored the Hawks) but that later on in the season the Hawks would flip Marc Andre Fleury to the Oilers for next to nothing for the big Oilers playoff run. Speculation was that after Bowman got fired a few months later the new front office didn't feel bound by the understanding and the 2nd part never happened.
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Starsfan posted:my favorite rumor ever along these lines was that Edmonton had an understanding with Chicago that they would eat poo poo on the Duncan Keith trade (literally everything in that trade favored the Hawks) but that later on in the season the Hawks would flip Marc Andre Fleury to the Oilers for next to nothing for the big Oilers playoff run. Speculation was that after Bowman got fired a few months later the new front office didn't feel bound by the understanding and the 2nd part never happened. Edmonton traded for Keith with the understanding they'd get a cap credit from the recapture penalty. The league decided to block it, but from that perspective they bought a veteran and additional cap space for a nothing player and a pick. It's funny they didn't quietly double check with the league if they intended to allow the cap credit to happen first though.
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ThinkTank posted:Edmonton traded for Keith with the understanding they'd get a cap credit from the recapture penalty. The league decided to block it, but from that perspective they bought a veteran and additional cap space for a nothing player and a pick. It's funny they didn't quietly double check with the league if they intended to allow the cap credit to happen first though. Almost like they should not have had to considering it was the literal rule, but that's the NHL baby!
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Starsfan posted:my favorite rumor ever along these lines was that Edmonton had an understanding with Chicago that they would eat poo poo on the Duncan Keith trade (literally everything in that trade favored the Hawks) but that later on in the season the Hawks would flip Marc Andre Fleury to the Oilers for next to nothing for the big Oilers playoff run. Speculation was that after Bowman got fired a few months later the new front office didn't feel bound by the understanding and the 2nd part never happened. Nah, they were riding with Smith, that rumour is nonsense. They signed him to a 2 year deal (that was really a 1 year deal spread over 2). As to the Keith trade it looked really bad when it happened (like super bad and I'm not defending it), but it turned out fine other than Keith made too much. He was effective and pretty good for them. You see this a lot with defenceman being traded and I'm pretty sure that private tracking data is helping more on that end vs forwards. Or the Oilers got lucky what the gently caress do I know.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Almost like they should not have had to considering it was the literal rule, but that's the NHL baby! It was arguably the letter but certainly not the spirit. They really should've clarified (and probably wanted to) but that would've meant telegraphing that they intended to have Keith retire early which would've likely resulted in a penalty of some sort. It was a worthwhile gamble but probably not one that was ever going to work out.
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Iodised QQ posted:The counterpoint is that the islanders are actually cool and maybe there's a tiny shred of merit to the "built for the playoffs" mentality The funniest (kill me) part is that their lone PPG in this series was scored by Palmieri on the 2nd unit. Having watched the Islanders for years it blows my mind how consistently bad at passing they are as a team compared to any other decent to good team. They do a lot of other things pretty well but making and receiving passes consistently is not one of them. This is reason number 1 that they are so bad on the PP. They can't pass quickly or accurately. Want to set up a one timer? almost never where it needs to be to get a shot off. Want to make a cross crease pass? probably blocked or off the mark. Want to tic tack toe pass between players if they aren't standing still? no loving chance. They can't be creative or deceptive on the power play, but they wont just revert to putting pucks to the net and hoping Lee can tip it in or stuff a rebound. Not to be the "SHOOOOOOOT" guy, but that's the only hope they have of any success on the PP.
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Koopa Kid posted:On a related note, Leafs are pretty fortunate that Knies has exceeded all reasonable expectations of his play so far or the Leafs winger depth would look real bad. Lafferty has been marginally better in the playoffs but I wouldn't exactly rage if he got scratched... unless it was for Simmonds. You also have to figure that braining Cernak is worth the PIM, at the very least. Iodised QQ posted:The counterpoint is that the islanders are actually cool and maybe there's a tiny shred of merit to the "built for the playoffs" mentality Counter-counterpoint: they are as much of a chore to watch as some people think the Canes are, and they don't have the excuse of missing three of their top offensive wingers. Counter^3 point: goddamn does Kotkaniemi suck in the playoffs. 30% xGF% lol, lmao.
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Ottinger has a sv% of 945 over 16 playoff games. And has a 6-6 record lol
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Cocaine Bear posted:Ottinger has a sv% of 945 over 16 playoff games. That's what happens when a team sits on your leading scorer and you have no depth. Evgenii Dadonov has more goals than Robo this series lmao
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P sure he has as many 5v5 goals than the rest of the team combined. loving rules. Go Stars!
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# ? Apr 27, 2023 00:49 |
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Nik Antropov has still got it https://twitter.com/lukefoxjukebox/status/1651262133307420672?s=46&t=2hVb1vPytx9OUpdE0UPz6Q
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eXXon posted:Lafferty has been marginally better in the playoffs but I wouldn't exactly rage if he got scratched... unless it was for Simmonds. You also have to figure that braining Cernak is worth the PIM, at the very least. I don’t even really care how Lafferty has been playing other than to point out that Bunting hasn’t been better than him on the ice since they’ve been on the same team, and combine that with his blood feud with the refs and I’d argue that Bunting is the worse option. Tampa losing Cernak is obviously a big deal but I’m not about to credit Bunting with the results of that play, as far as I’m concerned that put an important game the Leafs had a shot at out of reach and the Leafs have already banished a much better player than Bunts for the same thing. The Dirty Burger posted:Nik Antropov has still got it I was gonna say something derogatory about Murray but as far as I know he’s still not 100%
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E: Wrong thread! Here's my dog:
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# ? Apr 27, 2023 01:47 |
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They’ve been a bunch of trash rear end losers but none of Boston’s shots have been any good.
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# ? Apr 27, 2023 01:49 |
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More examples of just terrible officiating in this game.
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# ? Apr 27, 2023 02:23 |
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Ullmark has been average to bad most of this series and is clearly still dealing with the injury that he had at the end of the year. He looks bad! He single-handedly lost Boston the game tonight. They probably won't go to Swayman, but maybe they should.
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# ? Apr 27, 2023 03:18 |
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Florida hosed my bracket!!!
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# ? Apr 27, 2023 03:19 |
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holding a player down should be against the rules in hockey imo
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Ulmark bad, Pasta pretending to be a stationary pylon that can't shoot. I'd bench them both.
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They should bench Beregron too, clearly messed up their chemistry
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# ? Apr 27, 2023 03:39 |
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My hope for Game 6 - Tkachuk and Marchand elbow each other so hard at centre ice it creates a massive explosion and sinks Florida in to the ocean. Who says no?
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# ? Apr 27, 2023 03:50 |
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2 things I think after tonight's Kraken game 5 win: Cale Makar seems a pretty important part of the Avs team. They didn't look the same tonight. Dave Hakstol might not be as horrible a coach as this forum thinks. Bonus thought: Tye Kartye welcome to the big show holy poo poo kid! What a time and place to kick off your NHL career.
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# ? Apr 27, 2023 06:05 |
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Avs 2 goals were a crazy pinball shot that bounced off Oleksiak like 7 feet from the net, and an assist from Grubauer, very lucky to have even scored 1 goal
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# ? Apr 27, 2023 06:57 |
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I'm starting to think that maybe Philly was the problem not Hakstol.
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ThinkTank posted:I'm starting to think that maybe Philly was the problem not Hakstol. Let’s maybe not get ahead of ourselves they won 3 games so far.
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Hope Seattle can finish off the Avs, nothing better than watching playoff frenzy sweep through a new teams market
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Duckman2008 posted:Let’s maybe not get ahead of ourselves they won 3 games so far. Over the defending cup champs. Also that's one less than Hakstol got during his entire time in Philly.
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# ? Apr 27, 2023 13:36 |
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That game winning goal in Boston last night was the worst goalie gently caress up in the playoffs since the goat himself https://youtu.be/e7p1kZZvNo4
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ThinkTank posted:I'm starting to think that maybe Philly was the problem not Hakstol. Are we going to completely erase last year?
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Are we going to completely erase last year? I can give a team a mulligan on their inaugural season.
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Avs looked bad missing a bunch of their best players, but the Kraken are also playing really well so it looks even worse. Hopefully we can get a game 7 with Makar back
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The Dirty Burger posted:That game winning goal in Boston last night was the worst goalie gently caress up in the playoffs since the goat himself That was one of my all time favourite moments as a hockey fan
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RC Cola posted:Avs looked bad missing a bunch of their best players, but the Kraken are also playing really well so it looks even worse. In retrospect you have to think that emptying the tank to win the division was a mistake. Credit to the Kraken for playing really good team hockey — was the stat something like goals from But the Avs look like an absolute shell of their former selves right now. waffle enthusiast fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Apr 27, 2023 |
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The Dirty Burger posted:That game winning goal in Boston last night was the worst goalie gently caress up in the playoffs since the goat himself I blame the French. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIjp_pwvF5Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PoIWzd__uA
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# ? Apr 27, 2023 16:13 |
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Pacific division cannot be stopped.
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# ? Apr 27, 2023 16:21 |
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The Dirty Burger posted:Hope Seattle can finish off the Avs, nothing better than watching playoff frenzy sweep through a new teams market I don't hate the Avs, but I want to see Lauren Boebert and her sex criminal husband cry.
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Tonight is going to rule or possibly drool. Here's hoping for a series win so that monkey is off our back. Drunk Canuck fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Apr 27, 2023 |
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Drunk Canuck posted:Tonight is going to rule
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