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While we're a cog in this capitalist death machine I think a policy of not arming other countries probably does more good than bad.
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Maybe supporting and arming people under assault shouldn't depend on them being someone the US and NATO wants to support. It's good to help the Ukrainians, but when it's only them, it also means going along with only the west and allies being allowed to do imperialist coups and invasions. I'm not sure that leads to a better and safer world in the long run.
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Party In My Diapee posted:Maybe supporting and arming people under assault shouldn't depend on them being someone the US and NATO wants to support. It's good to help the Ukrainians, but when it's only them, it also means going along with only the west and allies being allowed to do imperialist coups and invasions. I'm not sure that leads to a better and safer world in the long run. I actually kinda agrees with this.
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TLM3101 posted:Nor would I expect you to. In this case, opening up for arms to Ukraine is - at least from my standpoint - about arming a nation that's under assault by another. If it's wrong to just stroll into a country when the US does it, it's wrong when Russia does it. And we can discuss the finer point about how many angels can dance on the head of the head of this particular foreign-policy pin, but the fact remains that Putin decided to invade Ukraine, and the Ukranians backed the government when it decided to fight the invasion. We can argue back and forth about NATO and the US and 'provocations', and what they've done before, but at its core, this question is about : Do we send arms to support another nation in its struggle against foreign aggression? the thing is, hardly anybody disagrees with the idea that it's not OK for russia to invade neighbouring countries. that's not what is at stake here. what's at stake here is whether we see empowering our allies to distribute our military equipment as an acceptable policy to effect such opposition. i have no problem agreeing that Something Should Be Done, and i myself supported the economic warfare measures under the logic that a quick, sharp shock to the russian financial system might force them to the table early on. the issue is that the government's policy does not obviously have any line towards peace, preferring a final, clear victory for ukraine - something which i do not think is on the table absent direct intervention. this is consistent with the government's dismissive attitude to e.g. chinese peace initiatives, and it's consistent with our style of multilateralism with regards to the supply of arms (effectively what we're doing is give our stuff to the british, who then distribute it to the ukrainians). this gives our allies considerable leverage over the ukrainians, which there is good reason to believe has been used to shape ukrainian policy, including opposing the peace talks of last april. this really is not a fine point, it's a cornerstone of an independent security policy analysis. the current party line here is that 1) the government's policy is not a NATO-based policy, 2) the government's policy has goals which broadly harmonise with the goals of Rødt and 3) the power to make decisions on this should rest with the central committee and parliamentary faction. i do not agree with any part of this analysis. in my opinion, it leads us very clearly into a situation where the next time there's a big security threat, the party will effectively be in line with the government response, like SV was in the libya case, and eventually where opposition to NATO is not sustainable because we've accepted all the premises that lead NATO membership to make sense (as, indeed, has happened to SV, a party literally founded on opposition to NATO). once this happens, the party is no longer a socialist party in my opinion. that is a problem for me, since the party is, to me, mainly a vehicle to try to do socialism.
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There are too few workers, so some poorly paid public sector jobs don't get done Mette Frederiksen: Have we tried forced labor? https://nyheder.tv2.dk/politik/2023-04-24-regeringen-vil-indfoere-arbejdspligt-paa-37-timer-om-ugen She's perfect for NATO.
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Esran posted:There are too few workers, so some poorly paid public sector jobs don't get done I'm beginning to feel she's literally worse than Fogh. Quite an accomplishment.
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Esran posted:There are too few workers, so some poorly paid public sector jobs don't get done Jesus Christ. Maybe we could try helping the people who want to work first? Seriously, when I taught refugees Danish, they pretty much all wanted to work, mostly doing whatever, but it's loving hard to get a job when you don't speak the language or understand the labour market system of the country. Maybe if somehow we matched those people with the jobs that could be good?
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BonHair posted:Maybe if somehow we matched those people with the jobs that could be good? Remember when Peter Hummelgaard, Minister of Employment at the time, was flabbergasted to learn this isn't the purpose of the job centers? Good times. Well, better times than we can expect at any rate.
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BonHair posted:Jesus Christ. Maybe we could try helping the people who want to work first? Seriously, when I taught refugees Danish, they pretty much all wanted to work, mostly doing whatever, but it's loving hard to get a job when you don't speak the language or understand the labour market system of the country. Maybe if somehow we matched those people with the jobs that could be good? That's pretty much what the people that know anything about anything are saying too. https://vaeksthusets-forskningscenter.dk/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Somaliske-kvinders-fortaellinger-om-arbejde-og-ledighed_WEB.pdf posted:På baggrund af de somaliske kvinders fortællinger om udfordringer og barrierer TV2 talked to an unemployed woman who was a social worker that became unemployed as a result of being assaulted at work. The case worker she was assigned wasn't interested in finding her a new job in the field, and suggested she should go be a cleaning lady. But I'm sure the politicians know better. Definitely nothing racist about implementing a forced labor law, while openly telling the press that you're exclusively targeting "non-western" immigrants.
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My sister just dropped out of university because of her actual diagnosed anxiety and PTSD made it impossible for her to take exams. Jobcenteret decided that she is absolutely ready for an education and needs to apply for one, and getting an actual job is not an option.
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BonHair posted:My sister just dropped out of university because of her actual diagnosed anxiety and PTSD made it impossible for her to take exams. Jobcenteret decided that she is absolutely ready for an education and needs to apply for one, and getting an actual job is not an option. I'm sorry. It's frustrating how bad they are at taking people's circumstances into account. I don't know anyone that has had contact with them that had any kind words to say. One friend described them as busywork to punish him for being unemployed.
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Esran posted:I'm sorry. It's frustrating how bad they are at taking people's circumstances into account. I don't know anyone that has had contact with them that had any kind words to say. One friend described them as busywork to punish him for being unemployed.
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An academic background is no guarantee, my friend with a law degree ended up rooting up knotweed on Amager Fælled. Excellent allocation of labor obviously. What they do to sick people is literally torture, there's simply no other term that's adequate, and the cruelty is the point. 3/4 of people on kontanthjælp are not equipped to hold down a full time job. Literally not a single thing they have done to "motivate" people in the past three decades has affected long-term unemployment. By their own admission, the infamous kontanthjælpsloft allegedly succeeded in getting the equivalent of 450 people employed full time while it simultaneously plunged tens of thousands of children below the poverty line, which they "fixed" by simply abolishing the poverty line. A gulag is probably too good for these people to be honest, but I'm willing to compromise if I get to blast the Happy Tree Friends theme over the PA continuously.
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SplitSoul posted:An academic background is no guarantee, my friend with a law degree ended up rooting up knotweed on Amager Fælled. Excellent allocation of labor obviously.
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Jobcenteret is the most efficient and accidentally well run public (or private public partnership) service. It's just that it's purpose is to punish you for not having a job, and especially for not having a job because you're unable to. I actually have a friend who's pretty smart and a business school graduate who was in the system for a while without suffering much, because he was essentially there voluntarily, he could get a job if he wanted or needed to, he just needed a break after 6 years at university with dyslexia. He's kinda the intended target of the cruelty, but he was entirely unaffected
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Sounds like an entrepreneur deciding to take a sabbatical. That's not the type of person who needs the dictates of the nanny state, because he knows better what's best for him.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Sounds like an entrepreneur deciding to take a sabbatical. That's not the type of person who needs the dictates of the nanny state, because he knows better what's best for him. Extremely accurate description. He's co founder of a business intelligence startup now. They're super into slacking and 30 hour work weeks though.
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https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/jlprKn/sverigedemokraternas-jimmie-akesson-om-hatkommentaren I took this in Medis on Monday. Gotta ask, Jimmie, where are the SD politicians when the racist commenters go after a child? 
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As per usual, Jimmie is dumbfounded by this pattern of overt racist in his party that he claims isn’t a real problem but at the same time every other party has these issues and should do more to combat them. He’s so infuriatingly cuddled by the media who lets him get away with this again and again and again and again… People talk a lot about how SD’s modus operandi right now is to claim responsibility for anything “good” the government does and cry foul when something bad happens. Thing is, that will only work if the media coverage allows it to happen. So sharpen the gently caress up, journalists, and do more than the bare minimum.
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(liberal) media's approach to fascists will always be tragically lackluster. "We absolutely have to let the guy with a swastika tattooed on his forehead explain himself, it is important to let him tell people about the Jewish conspiracy to turn Europe gay, muslim and communist. For the sake of objectivity we cannot criticize these views, but instead we should include some images of antifascists throwing rocks at the police. "
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BonHair posted:Extremely accurate description. He's co founder of a business intelligence startup now. They're super into slacking and 30 hour work weeks though.
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BigglesSWE posted:https://twitter.com/rackamacka/status/1650896136532639759?s=46&t=G1x8XWIwrNxUQoXItlkh2w Me reaping me sowing.txt
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BigglesSWE posted:https://twitter.com/rackamacka/status/1650896136532639759?s=46&t=G1x8XWIwrNxUQoXItlkh2w  Yeah, I'm sure someone hijacked her account to tweet, uh, exactly the kind of thing she otherwise tweets.
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Woebin posted:15 minutes ago; Like a key word in the concept of “plausible deniability” is “plausible”
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i once met a European Youth guy who insisted that frp wasn't a racist party because he'd met a fair amount of their top brass and was convinced that they were not personally racist. i had no good reply to this at the time because it's incredibly stupid, but of course on the bus home it came to me: if you are racist and are voting on the basis of being a racist, to which parliamentary party are you drawn? it's obviously frp. this means that politically active racists will tend to be more common in frp, absent vigorous policing (which frp has, but not against racism). the racists will just accumulate in the party structure and make themselves felt, even if one accepts that the leadership at any given time are not personally racist. i think about that guy a fair amount, because he was also an f-35 superfan and decided that the future of norway was as a liquor and beer exporter. just the dumbest guy, who probably now has a full-time job in some think tank
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V. Illych L. posted:i had no good reply to this at the time because it's incredibly stupid This really is a good debate tactic tho
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His Divine Shadow posted:This really is a good debate tactic tho Like the morning "debate" on p1 about energy where a local politician has to defend wind turbines in her small rural town "no-one wants them in their (litteral) backyard" and the opposing rear end in a top hat can go "SMR, SMR, SMR!! WIND FARMS ARE BAD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT SMR GOOD!!! Wind is slow and bad, CHYNA, SMR good!" and get away with it. Who wants a NPP in their backyard? Not a relevant question.
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His Divine Shadow posted:This really is a good debate tactic tho Like the morning "debate" on p1 about energy where a local politician has to defend wind turbines in her small rural town "no-one wants them in their (litteral) backyard" and the opposing rear end in a top hat can go "SMR, SMR, SMR!! WIND FARMS ARE BAD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT SMR GOOD!!! Wind is slow and bad, CHYNA, SMR good!" and get away with it. Who wants a NPP in their backyard? Not a relevant question. E: this tool, who seems to have a personal grief with wind: https://norrkoping.liberalerna.se/liberaler/reidar-svedahl/
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What in the absolute gently caress is the point of having a bank account when the bank can't accept money when their machine is broken?! Their service is loving miserable.
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Wibla posted:
Sure, but then you're looking at at least 10, likely closer to 15 years before you get any clean energy from the NPP. Maybe these loving wind farms (and NPP:s) are something our society needs to just get used to instead of Not-in-my-neighborhooding them?
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A cop beats up someone while the other cop deletes the evidence: https://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/politiet-slettet-bevis/79109005 
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dmitri posted:Sure, but then you're looking at at least 10, likely closer to 15 years before you get any clean energy from the NPP. Maybe these loving wind farms (and NPP:s) are something our society needs to just get used to instead of Not-in-my-neighborhooding them? i would have less of a problem with them being in my "neighborhood" (i.e. in the general vicinity of bergen) than i have with them being where they actually are, which are generally relatively pristine areas habitat destruction and light pollution are real biodiversity issues, and norway has shockingly little wilderness. i don't have any principled objections to wind power as such, but i do have serious problems with the way we're doing our wind power expansion, meaning ownership structures, building concessions, placement, overall social strategy etc.
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Pernille Skipper got a new job as commentator on TV2 News. 
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It's better than lobbyist for Dansk Industri I guess? Maybe even a slightly more leftist perspective on national TV (lol, does anyone still watch TV though?)
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if anyone knows any good orgs that aren’t loving backwards about sex work, I’m all ears. I’m real sick of left orgs pushing paternalist SWERF apologia
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BonHair posted:It's better than lobbyist for Dansk Industri I guess? Maybe even a slightly more leftist perspective on national TV (lol, does anyone still watch TV though?) Yes, I'm sure that's what will happen. (For the non-Danes, TV2 is colloquially known as the "Liberal Press Service" in some leftist circles, and for good reason.)
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